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08/18/2008 02:14:17 AM · #27

Originally posted by Patrick_R:

Now see I guess I'm an oddball here. I'm a christian but I recognize art when I see it. The way I see it the female form is a work of art. As long as I feel it is respected in the photo them I am okay with it.

It's good to hear that! But I have a question for you then...

would an artistic and very well done photograph of two girls practicing bondage offend you? I mean, if the challenge topic was say... "Chains" and the entry photograph in questions was two girls, nude, chaining each other up. Would you be able to look past the fact that the women weren't portrayed in the most flattering situation?

Don't take this as me picking you out, and you don't have to answer if you don't want. I'm genuinely curious about how far religion plays.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

08/18/2008 02:24:35 AM · #28

RE: //www.dpcNoConservatives.com
*sigh* Antoher example of "open-minded", "tolerant" liberals unwilling to even listen to opposing points of view. In fact, shutting themselves in their hypothetical world of non-reality and denying that opposing viewpoints even exist. Because obviously, if they don't hear them, they effectively don't exist. Lovely.

Sorry for raining on the parade, but I am really sick of posts like this that are inherently designed to polarize people and to demonize a large section (or even a small section) of the membership here. I realize I can ignore the thread, so that's what I'll do. Enjoy the little party.

08/18/2008 02:26:23 AM · #29

Originally posted by kyebosh:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wenld5jcyUQ irony much? Sorry it's funny to me.

The US didn't invade Iraq, we liberated it. If you feel you own the world you don't invade anything. ;-)

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08/18/2008 02:27:05 AM · #30

Originally posted by jprezant:

Originally posted by Patrick_R:
Now see I guess I'm an oddball here. I'm a christian but I recognize art when I see it. The way I see it the female form is a work of art. As long as I feel it is respected in the photo them I am okay with it.

It's good to hear that! But I have a question for you then...

would an artistic and very well done photograph of two girls practicing bondage offend you? I mean, if the challenge topic was say... "Chains" and the entry photograph in questions was two girls, nude, chaining each other up. Would you be able to look past the fact that the women weren't portrayed in the most flattering situation?

Don't take this as me picking you out, and you don't have to answer if you don't want. I'm genuinely curious about how far religion plays.

Just a quick question: When are you going to post that picture? ;-)

togtog

Nikon D300

08/18/2008 02:28:19 AM · #31

I think people need to try to smile more and worry less. Everyone is worried about everyone else, what they are doing, what they are thinking, what they are looking at. When they should just be concerned with trying to be happy and enjoy life.

Message edited by author 2008-08-18 02:30:08.

08/18/2008 02:33:35 AM · #32

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Ok....so if I didn't believe that opposing viewpoints existed...then I wouldn't have a reason to make this thread, so clearly I know opposing viewpoints exist.

This post was designed to show that there is a group of people on DPC who are tired of having their work and effort tattered and torn because of another groups inability to come out of their safe little world.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

"liberals unwilling to even listen to opposing points of view"

Funny you should say that since I imagine you may be one of the people that sees a penis or vagina and runs for the hills.

Ahh!!! The penis monster is coming for me!

___________________________________________

Yea I know, I probably went a bit too far with that one :-p

No hard feelings ArtROFLMAO...

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08/18/2008 02:35:26 AM · #33

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Just a quick question: When are you going to post that picture? ;-)

As soon as I find the models to take it :-p

I'll make sure to post a "vagina monsters inside" label on it so I don't accidentally offend anybody :) :)

togtog

Nikon D300

08/18/2008 02:39:16 AM · #34

*deep sigh of relief*

I am so glad my path through life has left me a liberal able to enjoy so many things that others cower, cringe, or cry about. I would hate to be scared of photos, it must be a horrible existence but thankfully I can only imagine it.

Oh, and kudos to Sam for having the guts to ask what I could not, lol...

08/18/2008 03:02:35 AM · #35

Originally posted by jprezant:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Just a quick question: When are you going to post that picture? ;-)

As soon as I find the models to take it :-p

I'll make sure to post a "vagina monsters inside" label on it so I don't accidentally offend anybody :) :)

--> //www.modelmayhem.com

Can I state my preferences? ;-)

08/18/2008 03:06:58 AM · #36

I'm on MM.

And yea, you pick out the models near zip code 19711 :) There are a bunch.

08/18/2008 03:16:45 AM · #37

Originally posted by jprezant:

I'm on MM.

And yea, you pick out the models near zip code 19711 :) There are a bunch.

//www.modelmayhem.com/518809 and //www.modelmayhem.com/478358 please. Thanks.

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08/18/2008 03:41:27 AM · #38

Good choices : )

Gotta find the location now :-p Some broken down building would be sweet.

Patrick_R

Canon EOS-60D

08/18/2008 03:54:22 AM · #39

Originally posted by jprezant:

would an artistic and very well done photograph of two girls practicing bondage offend you?

Nope it wouldn't offend me. If that is something that someone likes shooting who am I to tell them no? I wont be searching the web for bondage shots anytime soon though. of course I don't search for landscapes either... just not my cup of tea

Originally posted by jprezant:

If the challenge topic was say... "Chains" and the entry photograph in questions was two girls, nude, chaining each other up. Would you be able to look past the fact that the women weren't portrayed in the most flattering situation?

Yes I look past subject matter and judge the photo on the same scale I always do i.e. (quality, originality ect..) I just will probably never desire to revist the image for enjoyment as I do other photo's

In fact the only reason bondage bothers me at all is when it honestly looks like the girl is pleading for help or in pain. I don't like seeing people utterly helpless like that. I feel like running into the room and cutting them free (cue theatrical hereo music)

As far as how far religion goes into it.... I try to keep an open mind about stuff For example kiwiness' photoshoot image was astounding in my opinion. Let's see it has nudity and to some people implied homosexuality. However I felt Gary was very respectful of the female form and might I add really creative with his shot.

I gave it a 10

Message edited by author 2008-08-18 03:57:52.

FireBird

08/18/2008 07:01:46 AM · #40

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by jprezant:
Seriously. I'm gonna start it. Who wants in?

Wanna get rid of all the rational thinking people, do you? :)

See. This is why you re-upped your membership!

FireBird

08/18/2008 07:09:45 AM · #41

Originally posted by jprezant:

Oh that is hilarious. I thought our deficit was more like 6 trillion though. No?

People get the yearly budget deficits confused with the total National Debt all the time. The surpluses Bubba had during his administration were mostly due to new accounting rules. We were allowed to count the cash stuffed into our mattresses and watch pockets. W truly screwed the pooch though, he had record deficits even with the new accounting practices. He's gonna be remembered as the worst US President, EVAR!

Oh, the 6 trillion figure is a bit out of date!
//www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

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08/18/2008 07:26:16 AM · #42

Originally posted by Patrick_R:

Originally posted by jprezant:

would an artistic and very well done photograph of two girls practicing bondage offend you?

Nope it wouldn't offend me. If that is something that someone likes shooting who am I to tell them no? I wont be searching the web for bondage shots anytime soon though. of course I don't search for landscapes either... just not my cup of tea

Ok, Patrick is on board, too. This is going to be epic.

Sorry I can't help with the choice of location (it's a bit far from where I currently am and Google Maps only provides limited information...).

Let me know when you get to the props. I'll be checking out some hardware stores now... ;-)

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

08/18/2008 08:55:22 AM · #43

Originally posted by jprezant:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
RE: //www.dpcNoConservatives.com
*sigh* Antoher example of "open-minded", "tolerant" liberals unwilling to even listen to opposing points of view. In fact, shutting themselves in their hypothetical world of non-reality and denying that opposing viewpoints even exist. Because obviously, if they don't hear them, they effectively don't exist. Lovely.

Sorry for raining on the parade, but I am really sick of posts like this that are inherently designed to polarize people and to demonize a large section (or even a small section) of the membership here. I realize I can ignore the thread, so that's what I'll do. Enjoy the little party.

Ok....so if I didn't believe that opposing viewpoints existed...then I wouldn't have a reason to make this thread, so clearly I know opposing viewpoints exist.

This post was designed to show that there is a group of people on DPC who are tired of having their work and effort tattered and torn because of another groups inability to come out of their safe little world.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

"liberals unwilling to even listen to opposing points of view"

Funny you should say that since I imagine you may be one of the people that sees a penis or vagina and runs for the hills.

Ahh!!! The penis monster is coming for me!

___________________________________________

Yea I know, I probably went a bit too far with that one :-p

No hard feelings ArtROFLMAO...

You obviously do not know Art at all.

:)

muckpond

Nikon D200

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

08/18/2008 09:12:25 AM · #44

Originally posted by egamble:

I didn't get a refund/rebate. :/

Which sucks..because my taxes are going to help pay off the debt to China (or whoever we borrowed it from..never really checked) for the refund.

Originally posted by egamble:

Doesn't texas have a state right(written in their constitution) to leave whenever they wish? Or is that an urban myth?

you know, you have the sum total of human knowledge at your fingertips. if you're going to be spouting off left and right, it might benefit you (and, actually, all of us) to look some of this stuff up.

08/18/2008 09:14:22 AM · #45

Originally posted by alexzen:

Can't we just get them all to move to Texas and have Texas secede from the US?

I don't know, the last time a group of states executed their legitimate right to secede, Lincoln invaded, conquered, and took them back against the law and their will.

08/18/2008 09:15:18 AM · #46

Originally posted by egamble:

Originally posted by alexzen:
Can't we just get them all to move to Texas and have Texas secede from the US?

Doesn't texas have a state right(written in their constitution) to leave whenever they wish? Or is that an urban myth?

They have the right as established by our Founding Fathers.

08/18/2008 09:16:04 AM · #47

Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Obama '08 ( :-( kucinich )

Obamageddon!

08/18/2008 09:19:23 AM · #48

Originally posted by jprezant:

And in answer to your question...about what I mean by the thread...

I was just sick of creating a photograph that might have some element of suggestive content, and having it get thrashed because Jesus frowns upon naked human bodies. I have nothing against religion or conservatives, but I do think if your going to be judging art, you need to be able to separate your personal beliefs sometimes, and understand what the artist was trying to do.

...and yes, I know art is subjective...but at least the technicals of art are somewhat objective...and you can take a non-biased approach to how a photograph was executed..maybe that would help a bit.

Where is your Bible reference that Jesus frowns upon naked bodies? I don't think it's in there. But God does frown up sin and lust is of course sin. And causing someone to sin is sin. So common sense should prevail.

That answers your faulty theological statement.

As for content, everyone has one vote and one vote won't boost or derail an image.

08/18/2008 09:21:49 AM · #49

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by kyebosh:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wenld5jcyUQ irony much? Sorry it's funny to me.

The US didn't invade Iraq, we liberated it. If you feel you own the world you don't invade anything. ;-)

*SIGH* Why do liberals hate America?