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08/12/2008 09:58:21 AM · #1
Hella-cool!

Lenovo ThinkPad W700 for photographers



Lenova has released the ThinkPad W700 laptop aimed at photographers and designers, offering a built-in graphics tablet and color calibrator. What̢۪s more, the display displays 72% of the possible color gamut of the Adobe RGB color space whereas most normal laptop displays can only show 45%. This 17-inch widescreen mobile workstation is bundled with the new Nvidia Quadro FX 2700M and 3700M Open GL graphics processors with up to 1GB of video memory. It also features up to 8GB of high speed DDR3 memory, optional dual hard drives with RAID configurations, a 7-in-1 built-in card reader, a range of wireless connectivity options and multimedia capabilities including an optional Blu-ray DVD burner/player. (12:00 GMT)

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Message edited by author 2008-08-12 09:59:06.
08/12/2008 10:04:01 AM · #2
from Gizmodo

"The Lenovo W700 will be available in September, starting at around $3000. But with RAM and HDD configurations, that price could be much higher."

Ouch.
08/12/2008 10:07:09 AM · #3
I wonder if they can put the tablet on the other side for those of us that are lefties?
08/12/2008 10:19:55 AM · #4
That is sweeet.
08/12/2008 12:32:34 PM · #5
I'd like to find a laptop with built-in 1394b ports (not an add-on card, like ExpressCard, I've tried that, it sucks). Most laptops, if they include Firewire at all, go for the tiny 4-pin version of Firewire, and don't even both to mention that fact in the specs.

Why can't laptop manufacturers: a) include the Firewire specifics in their specs, and b) include 1394b in some of their line?

08/12/2008 01:16:23 PM · #6
Originally posted by sailracer_98:

I wonder if they can put the tablet on the other side for those of us that are lefties?


That was the first thing I noticed - another right handed appliance.
08/12/2008 01:35:23 PM · #7
I dont think that can possibly be pointed to photographers and graphic designers. I mean who the heck wants to work on such a small pad? Most want to work on a 9x12 or bigger.

Matt
08/12/2008 01:53:15 PM · #8
Originally posted by dwterry:



Why can't laptop manufacturers: a) include the Firewire specifics in their specs, and b) include 1394b in some of their line?


Buy a Mac...
08/12/2008 02:54:21 PM · #9
If a picture is worth 1,000 words -- how much would a video of this beast be worth? Ohhhhh, the droolage.

It looks like the HP 8730w will compete with this (at a more attractive price-point), but I don't see it with the integrated tablet nor monitor calibrator.
08/12/2008 03:17:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by CEJ:

Originally posted by sailracer_98:

I wonder if they can put the tablet on the other side for those of us that are lefties?


That was the first thing I noticed - another right handed appliance.


While I am right handed, I wondered about this too. I thought I had learned that creative people (artist, photographer, etc) had a higher tendance to be left handed since the right side of the brain was dominant. You would think more companies would take this into consideration when creating such items. I mean come on, have you ever seen a left handed camera? I thought I did once but realized the lady was holding it backwards, boy was she surprised when that flash went off lol.

Message edited by author 2008-08-12 15:17:48.
08/12/2008 05:10:02 PM · #11
Originally posted by MattO:

I dont think that can possibly be pointed to photographers and graphic designers. I mean who the heck wants to work on such a small pad? Most want to work on a 9x12 or bigger.

Matt


in THIS thread about tablets and size, there were many who preferred a 4x6 size pad.

Message edited by author 2008-08-12 17:12:26.
08/12/2008 05:34:03 PM · #12
Originally posted by CEJ:

Originally posted by MattO:

I dont think that can possibly be pointed to photographers and graphic designers. I mean who the heck wants to work on such a small pad? Most want to work on a 9x12 or bigger.

Matt


in THIS thread about tablets and size, there were many who preferred a 4x6 size pad.


In the photo of that laptop, the size is even smaller than that.

Matt

Edit for typo

Message edited by author 2008-08-12 17:37:11.
08/12/2008 06:42:24 PM · #13
I don't need any bigger than what they have posted: "120cm x 80cm", i think i could handle that tablet, how do they fit that on there, lol. Just put your mouse over the tablet to see the little blurb about it.
08/12/2008 09:52:21 PM · #14
Originally posted by ryand:

I don't need any bigger than what they have posted: "120cm x 80cm", i think i could handle that tablet, how do they fit that on there, lol. Just put your mouse over the tablet to see the little blurb about it.


Thats quite funny to see a typo that huge in the description of it. I'm almost sure based on what I see it should be mm and not cm. Which would make it about 5x3. I have a 6x9 and a 9x12 and I much prefer the larger one. I use a 21 inch monitor for editing and trying to convey where I need to be on the smaller tablet is alot tougher.

Matt

ETA if it really were 47x32 you would need some long arms to do that editing. :D

Message edited by author 2008-08-12 21:53:32.
08/12/2008 10:25:53 PM · #15
Originally posted by MattO:

I dont think that can possibly be pointed to photographers and graphic designers. I mean who the heck wants to work on such a small pad? Most want to work on a 9x12 or bigger.

Matt


I don't know about that. I have a 6x8 tablet and I use it as a 4x6 one or there abouts. You can configure the size of the area you use. Unless you use a very big panel, like over 26 inches then maybe a 9x12 tablet would do but then again...to each his own.

edited to add words of wisdom

Message edited by author 2008-08-12 22:26:50.
08/12/2008 10:33:34 PM · #16
I am curious if this is really an IBM product unless they sold the trademark on the laptop name. They (IBM) made a Thinkpad back in the early/mid '90s.
08/12/2008 11:03:01 PM · #17
Originally posted by kawesttex:

I am curious if this is really an IBM product unless they sold the trademark on the laptop name. They (IBM) made a Thinkpad back in the early/mid '90s.


old news
08/12/2008 11:09:18 PM · #18
Dont Buy Lenovo, they are a chineese manuf that bought rights to use the IBM logos and names, they tried breaking into the US market several times under diff names and every time failed to poor quality, and teh Lenovo thinkpads are not much better you can but a better lappy for cheaper....promise
08/12/2008 11:12:48 PM · #19
Originally posted by violinist123:

Originally posted by kawesttex:

I am curious if this is really an IBM product unless they sold the trademark on the laptop name. They (IBM) made a Thinkpad back in the early/mid '90s.


old news


Thanks, I thought I might be going bonkers!
08/13/2008 01:44:27 AM · #20
Originally posted by nemesise1977:

Dont Buy Lenovo, they are a chineese manuf...

This is the second time I have heard this. Have you ever used a Lenovo ThinkPad? I absolutely love mine!
08/13/2008 01:46:34 AM · #21
Originally posted by dwterry:

I'd like to find a laptop with built-in 1394b ports

I agree with you on that one. I would like to point out, however, that this ThinkPad does have the smaller 4-pin firewire.
08/13/2008 08:23:42 AM · #22
Originally posted by skylercall:

Originally posted by dwterry:

I'd like to find a laptop with built-in 1394b ports

I agree with you on that one. I would like to point out, however, that this ThinkPad does have the smaller 4-pin firewire.


Yup, I already have one of those. And that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid... I want the larger/faster port. Everybody that includes Firewire on a laptop seems to think the little 4-pin version is "good enough". :(

Message edited by author 2008-08-13 08:24:06.
08/13/2008 09:04:23 AM · #23
Originally posted by dwterry:

Yup, I already have one of those. And that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid... I want the larger/faster port. Everybody that includes Firewire on a laptop seems to think the little 4-pin version is "good enough". :(

But the only difference between the 6-pin and the 4-pin versions is that the 6-pin version can supply power to the external device, hence the extra two pins. You shouldn't be seeing a difference in performance.

The only performance difference is when comparing FireWire 400 and FireWire 800

ETA: All Mac laptops have the 6-pin port.

Message edited by author 2008-08-13 09:07:56.
08/13/2008 09:33:47 AM · #24
In regards to IBM Thinkpads from the 90's... yes these are from the same line and many (including myself) believe they possess the same quality. Build is superb. The feel of the keyboard is, quite honestly, unmatched ANYWHERE in the laptop market. If you don't type, then don't worry about it, but most enjoy a pleasurable experience when typing and positive feedback, ESPECIALLY for prolonged sessions. Also, hinges are very sturdy with zero play, and the whole case has magnesium reinforcement, making for a very stiff and sturdy platform. Not to mention the wonderful advantages of the Ultra-Bay Slim (you can hot swap drives and batteries). The Macbook Pro was the only thing I could find with anywhere near specs that could touch my T61P at the time (also known as T61 Mobile Workstation) for the same pricepoint, and it was more expensive and had far more horror stories of catastrophic failure from minor mistreatment, when compared with the Thinkpad series (Lenovo owned). This may be overkill if you are planning on only using your notebook at home and not transporting it about. I will admit that my customer service during ordering was spotty. Some reps were awesome, some worse than worthless, so that might be something to consider. Since mine flies along still with no holdups, I can't vouche for their repair center's customer service, although when IBM owned the line it was the BEST in the business. Also of note: mine is XP, so I can't really comment on Vista or no. If you're wondering about Firewire and what exactly is offered, you might want to check out //www.notebookreview.com/. The site is forum based, and so therefore suffers from immense amounts of fanboys, but their stats are all reliable and will often list things you don't even care about because of how obsessed some of those folks are. CNET is pretty good for industry pushing devices too, but everybody probably already heard about them when they sought a digital camera.

EDIT: Incidentally, notebookreview.com linked to THIS article speculating on the catastrophic failure of many NVIDIA chipsets, including the chipset used on the W700 as well as TONS of other new and old notebooks. Bummer.

Message edited by author 2008-08-13 09:40:26.
08/13/2008 10:03:39 AM · #25
Originally posted by JH:

Originally posted by dwterry:

Yup, I already have one of those. And that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid... I want the larger/faster port. Everybody that includes Firewire on a laptop seems to think the little 4-pin version is "good enough". :(

But the only difference between the 6-pin and the 4-pin versions is that the 6-pin version can supply power to the external device, hence the extra two pins. You shouldn't be seeing a difference in performance.

The only performance difference is when comparing FireWire 400 and FireWire 800

ETA: All Mac laptops have the 6-pin port.


Right. And that's why I was asking for 1394b ... I want the 800. In a laptop. Please? :-)

Actually, even the 6-pin Firewire 400 would be beneficial. My Sandisk Fireware Card Reader is much faster than a USB card reader, but it requires the 6-pin connector because it needs power.
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