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Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

08/01/2008 06:23:27 AM · #1

Hi all,

CS3 is driving me crazy. I seem like can't save any format the way I see it on my CS3 Editor. The colors are great, I am happy... I save it, no compression, highest resolution and bit, BAM... yellowish colors, faded colors.

Believe it or not, I actually screen grab it, open in irfanview and save from there to keep the colors as I see it.

Where am I doing wrong? this is getting ridiculous :(

I use Windows only, XP and Vista...

FP

CEJ

Canon EOS-40D

08/01/2008 07:10:09 AM · #2

Is your color space set correctly? Should be sRGB for working as well as output. All I can think of at the moment, but usually the culprit.

Message edited by author 2008-08-01 07:10:38.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/01/2008 07:26:05 AM · #3

When I work it is fine. I can see colors very nice... Where can I set the sRGB. All I get is Adobe RGB 1998 or not (checkbox) when I save (for JPG). But I have the very same problem with any other formats... very same problem. Colors get yellowish. Specially skin color, which drives me nuts.

Truegsht

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

08/01/2008 07:30:31 AM · #4

you can't use adobe rgb then use sRGB as other setting...will get weird effects. I have done the same before many times. just hit shift+ctrl+K to check your color settings.

Message edited by author 2008-08-01 07:31:05.

Sinky

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

08/01/2008 07:37:09 AM · #5

A complicated problem, that bedevilled me for a long time, in just the same way. There are quite a few earlier threads about this on DPC.
Save for web color help thread

My strong recommendation to you, is that you view all images with Firefox 3, which is one of the only browsers which can handle colour management, and can accommodate tagged colour profiles, if you enable it to do so. Then, be sure to save all photos for web purposes in sRGB alone.

Most browsers, Windows "Picture and fax viewer", and presumably Irfanview too, dont do this, and just assume sRGB. So, if you are loooking at a photo with another colour profile saved, it will look wrong on a non-colour managed browser.

Also, when editing your photo, be sure to have "view - proof colours" checked in photoshop, and "View - proof setup - custom - sRGB".

If you want to test your browser, look at my photo here -

I have tagged the ProPhoto RGB profile to this photo. If your browser is colour managed, this will appear in bright and vivid colours, and if not, they will be quite muted and desaturated.

Hope that helps....thats at least my understanding of a way towards solving your colour issues.

08/01/2008 07:37:14 AM · #6

Ok... I did this... shift+ctrl+K, and there was "sRGB IEC51966-2.1" and I changed that to "Monitor RGB - sRGB IEC51966-2.1" and now saves it exactly the way I see it. Now, this is not only in this computer, on the other computer with different monitor I have the same problem. So, when I go t work today, I will change that settings again... it should fix it there too.

Thanks a million :)

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

08/01/2008 10:02:48 AM · #7

Same was happening here at work and same fix worked :)

justamistere

Nikon D3s

08/01/2008 10:49:37 AM · #8

I pounded my head for a while, and some of my challenge entries resulted with colors far from what I intended. Here is the workflow I finally use, thanks to the input of several people. Please correct me if any of you dissagree.

My Camera is set for "Adobe RGB" 12bit, it has the widest color gamut. Capturing and saving in the camera with the most color shades/tones available, offers a greater range when post-processing.

After I "Flatten the image", I choose "Edit--->", then be sure you choose "Convert to" a different Color space, NOT "Assign". "Convert" stays with the file when saved. Color space "sRGB IEC51966-2.1" has a much smaller color gamut, that is what the internet .html uses.

Them after resizing, I choose "File---> Save to web devices", and set size to 150k limit.

Edit: that might be 16-bit not 12 bit, but "sRGB IEC51966-2.1" is only 8-biy color depth.

Message edited by author 2008-08-01 12:36:01.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

08/01/2008 11:17:28 AM · #9

Originally posted by justamistere:

Totally agree. Working with the most information to start with will always produce the best results.

justamistere

Nikon D3s

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

08/01/2008 12:51:33 PM · #10

From the forum mentioned above, Save for web color help thread, the most important info I got was that the safest bet for a Print Service's ICC color matching is also the "sRGB IEC51966-2.1".

Less chance of your colors being "out of gamut" and getting automatically substituted. Unless you know the ICC file from your printer-service is for a particular Paper and Ink the Printe will use.

Many have said to edit in the Highest quality and widest range of colors.
You can always save and Convert to lesser devices' size/color capabilities.

So many "sizes", one "Size" does not fit all. (size includes color-adjustments, etc.)

Such as DvD slideshows on NTSC-TV 4:3 pixel ratio, HD-TV 16:9, iPod devices, Streaming video for the web, Web pages, Mac Monitors, PC Monitors, Photo-Frame Displays (wide variety), and even Non-Electronic traditional Printing on Papers of many types.

08/01/2008 02:11:45 PM · #11

FocusPoint,

I seem to recall there being something bad about using monitor rgb as your colorspace. The thing is that if you set your colorspace to match your monitor, It wont match any other monitors, printers, or anything. ahh wait!

Now I remember! your images look great at home, like my 9 month old smeared yellow paint when your at work, and when you save for web and convert to the sRGB standard - again color issues.

I think the best bet would be to get yourself a decent color calibrator, set your PS colorspace to sRGB and work away!

Also, what

justamistere said was correct, although i dont think it will help you at this point. From what I know a lot of pros edit in ProPhoto (lightroom uses something close to this) then they save in different color space depending on the output (printer, web, etc...).

Colorspace is a lot of work to learn, but using monitor rgb is the same as you putting glasses on so your images look right. no one else can wear those glasses at the same time...Hope this helps!

ETA: read here and here about why not to use moniotr rgb as PS colorspace.

ETAA: also a good read!

Message edited by author 2008-08-01 14:25:16.

08/01/2008 02:19:35 PM · #12

It doesn't make any sense. I am going to change the settings back. I will open a raw image, save that raw image with old settings, and then change it back to "good" settings, save the same image again, and post them here. You tell me if you guys will see any differences between two saves.

08/01/2008 02:36:09 PM · #13

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

When you do that, please post which you think is the correct color image. but I had the same issue. I calibrated my monior (on win XP) and have PS3 set to sRGB. color is ok now.

08/01/2008 02:46:45 PM · #14

Damn... i can't set it back. When I do, output still good as I changed it. The final settings I have is "North America web/internet" and seems still good, just like monitor RGB

This doesn't make sense. I only think that I never touch those settings before, and default settings, whatever they were, not set to way that i should be working.

I think I have some samples at home, when I get back home I post them to you, but it doesn't matter anymore :/

08/01/2008 04:30:47 PM · #15

Try No. American General Perpose 2

thats default with sRGB.

08/01/2008 04:36:54 PM · #16

AH.. that was it.. now I will send the samples. It broke the colors

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/01/2008 04:42:14 PM · #17

Bad one
[thumb]705592[/thumb]

Good one
[thumb]705593[/thumb]

DistantColours

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

08/01/2008 04:45:45 PM · #18

Originally posted by Sinky:

On my Mac I've looked at this picture with several browsers.
With Safari and iCab the image looks fine.
With Firefox, Netscape and Opera, it looks washed out.

I've looked at some other images in recent challenges and the image looks fine in all browsers.

Why does getting consistent colour have to be so difficult?

Tycho

Nikon D70

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

08/01/2008 05:08:16 PM · #19

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Bad one
[thumb]705592[/thumb]

Good one
[thumb]705593[/thumb]

The bad one is in Adobe RGB. On a non-color-managed application such as IE it will not look right. In Photoshop it looks better than the "good one", actually. Convert it to sRGB, then save it without a profile, and it should look the same in your Internet browser as it looks in PS.

Message edited by author 2008-08-01 17:09:23.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Nikon

08/01/2008 05:17:25 PM · #20

Originally posted by Tycho:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Bad one
[thumb]705592[/thumb]

Good one
[thumb]705593[/thumb]

The bad one is in Adobe RGB. On a non-color-managed application such as IE it will not look right. In Photoshop it looks better than the "good one", actually. Convert it to sRGB, then save it without a profile, and it should look the same in your Internet browser as it looks in PS.

I can't tell the difference in PS. For now I will keep it the way it is (fixed one). I can play with that later. It's just killing me not to know why it was happening. Even prints come out yellow skinned, either I use printer's color manager or Adobe's when i print... did not come out good. Should be fine now... at least satisfying to me :/

ikopanas

Nikon D7000

08/01/2008 05:35:56 PM · #21

Just post this cause I want to follow the thread. Is there a better way to do this?

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

08/01/2008 05:41:07 PM · #22

Originally posted by ssocrates:

Just post this cause I want to follow the thread. Is there a better way to do this?

Set the thread options to 'Watch' in the drop down at the top of the thread.