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07/11/2008 06:48:40 AM · #26 |
Stupid, stupid, stupid. What happened to this society?! Common sense has gone right out the window.
Might as well ban fingers too. |
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07/11/2008 07:04:40 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by ZeppKash:
Stupid, stupid, stupid. What happened to this society?! Common sense has gone right out the window.
Might as well ban fingers too. |
Love this quote from that article,
"They did the right thing arresting those kids. It's one finger today, two tomorrow, and before you know it, they're pointing their entire hands at you. That's when you've got to..." |
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07/11/2008 07:40:05 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by biteme:
I think it's a guy/girls thing ;) |
Now that you mention it, I think they should ban Barbie's for looking too UNreal. :P |
Barbie not only looks unreal, but look at the other messages she gives:
Girl can NOT hold a job...I mean come on how many has she had? Crap she's even been in every armed service. Do we want our kids growing up thinking it is ok to jump from job to job to job. Couldn't she teach about being a career woman and holding down one job her entire life. I don't know, maybe it's because of her unrealistic appearance that kept her from holding a job, maybe all the guys at work kept coming on to her and all the girls wanted her dead, she had to leave...not sure.
Girl never had a steady man...could be why she didn't last in the armed services (don't ask, don't tell). Just runs around in her Malibu van and parties...could be another reason why she can't hold a job. Everyday to her is a flippin beach party filled with vollyball and music.
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As for the gun ban, I don't think banning the guns altogether is the issue, they do need to find a way to make them less realistic so that they can't be mistaken for a real one. I'm also thinking about the parent who hasn't properly taught their child about guns but has one in the house, kid thinks...cool dad has a gun like mine, I'm gonna play with...BLAM!!!! Dead kid.
All to often parents have not taken on THEIR role as a parent and left it up to the school system or even the TV...on that same side though the goverment has gone totally over-board on so many assumed cases of child abuse that a lot of parents are afraid to correct their kids for fear of the law jumping in.
I think we only had one or two toy guns growing up and if I remember correctly, they were bright shiney revolvers with a red tip on the end. I think the main reason ours were never mistaken for the real thing is because we weren't allowed to run all over God's green earth at all hours of the night when even a shiney toy can't be seen properly. If we didn't have a gun and wanted to play we found a stick that looked like a gun and used it, we didn't need to have the real thing we had imagination.
eta...I think what drives me crazy the most is the fact that the VERY people that played with me and grew up at the same time as me and even played with these things themselves are the ones that create these stupid rules and go to extreme over things. Hell you survived it and maybe even learned from it, why restrict your kids from learning too.
Message edited by author 2008-07-11 08:25:30. |
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07/11/2008 07:51:04 AM · #29 |
what else are the children supposed to play with, duh!who can tell me?
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07/11/2008 07:54:21 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by tanky:
what else are the children supposed to play with, duh!who can tell me? |
sumo wrestling - involves only diapers (unless they think those kids would hang themselves with it) |
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07/11/2008 07:56:49 AM · #31 |
I was almost shot once because of my toy rifle btw, my friend too...
My family lived at a high school. My father was the security guard for the high school. We got to live in a trailer on the property. Anyway...
There was a foot ball field with some pretty damn high seats, closed on the weekends. One day I had a friend from school over and we were playing war. I had the rifle with me obviously but we got tired of playing and decided to climb to the top of the steps to look at the view.
A passer by saw the rifle in my hand and thought I was a sniper. About half an hour went by, I wasn't paying attention behind me. I turned around and there were between eight and twelve police cars parked around the exits. Don't remember if swat came.
Being only 9 and not putting two and two together and being STUPID I come down the steps still holding the gun. Probably about a second before they opened fire my father came running out yelling something at them. He then yelled at me to drop the rifle, that was when I realized what was going on. I almost pissed myself while dropping it.
I'm really glad they held their fire until being sure of the situation and double glad I didn't do something more stupid.
I got to keep my rifle, not sure if my father told my mother, however from then on I was not allowed to take it outside ever again :(
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07/11/2008 08:04:36 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by tanky:
Do you think they should be banned?
How about violence on TV, and video games, how do you think it is impacting children? |
Toy guns, knives, swords, teach violence, where as a stick teaches imagination.
Television can be turned off.
There is no requirement to purchase a video game console, period.
Violent entertainment, and toys that teach violence should be regulated. Why do we need to see death, destruction, or human suffering on television or, for that fact in a game?
I grew up on Monopoly, the most violence in that game was when someone took over all of someone else's property and money.
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07/11/2008 08:08:47 AM · #33 |
When I was a kid, Superman and Davy Crocket were my heroes. I had a Superman shirt, coonskin hat and air rifle. I used to wear that shirt and coonskin hat, shove my rifle into the ground to load it with slugs of dirt, -- then shoot my little sister in the ass. (sadly, she still bears the scars.. very traumatic)...
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07/11/2008 08:15:31 AM · #34 |
Maybe we should make it mandatory that everyone has to carry a gun. Who would rob a store or bank if they knew everyone there was armed?
There are already laws here that require toy guns to have bright orange tips. It isn't 100% though- //www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/jun/23/painful-anniversary/
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07/11/2008 08:16:57 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
I grew up on Monopoly, the most violence in that game was when someone took over all of someone else's property and money. |
You obviously never played my brother. I can vividly remember him, aged 8 or 9 picking up the board and throwing across the room in temper! |
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07/11/2008 08:37:03 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by tanky:
Do you think they should be banned?
How about violence on TV, and video games, how do you think it is impacting children? |
hmm interesting question when ever I have kids and I if I am still living in NYC their is no way I am letting my kids run outside and play with toy guns, the cops here are crazy. Ok enough said on the toy gun thing, but on the violent video games again when I have kids I would not let my kids play violent video games untill they are the right age or in thier teens.
I play and love violent video games been playing them since I was a teen, but my parents taught me whats right and wrong, so with that I dont believe video games cause kids to be violent. Crap look at all the crazy stuff thats on tv....
Originally posted by SaraR:
You obviously never played my brother. I can vividly remember him, aged 8 or 9 picking up the board and throwing across the room in temper! |
lol but I must say some of the post here are funny as hell. I also have seen my sister throw the monopoly board game across the room.
When I was little I use to play with toy guns all the time, I remember back then they looked and felt real, I even remember having a metal real looking toy hand gun that shot caps. Now those types of toy guns will get you shot. Here in NYC I can not remember seeing any toy guns at all in the store or I have not even seen kids playing with toy guns anymore.
Originally posted by tanky:
what else are the children supposed to play with, duh!who can tell me? |
The bad thing is getting kids to go play or go outside and play, now they stay inside and are the internet all the time or videogames.
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07/11/2008 08:37:13 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
I grew up on Monopoly, the most violence in that game was when someone took over all of someone else's property and money. |
You obviously never played my brother. I can vividly remember him, aged 8 or 9 picking up the board and throwing across the room in temper! |
I've done that once or twice myself. I felt like a twit afterwards when I'd calmed down but I couldn't stop myself at the time. |
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07/11/2008 08:37:58 AM · #38 |
I'm waiting for the hardcover version that lists all the things we're going to ban. Then we can refer to it whenever we're about to do anything to make sure it meets with approval. It's called "Don't Even Think About It...let us do that for you", sub-titled "Never Underestimate the Stupidity of People in Large Groups".
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07/11/2008 09:02:57 AM · #39 |
I used to play cowboys and indians with toy guns and look at me, I have become a big time criminal (sarcasm included)
What's wrong with society today? Parents want to blame everyone else except themselves for bad parenting.
Geez |
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07/11/2008 09:03:39 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by JaimeVinas:
Parents want to blame everyone else except themselves for bad parenting.
Geez |
Exactly
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07/11/2008 09:15:49 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
I grew up on Monopoly, the most violence in that game was when someone took over all of someone else's property and money. |
You obviously never played my brother. I can vividly remember him, aged 8 or 9 picking up the board and throwing across the room in temper! |
I obviously did not play with your brother, but it does sound like a kid that needed direction from his loving parents, or a kid with deeper problems.
But, again, people are missing the point here at DPC, and just don't get the punch line.
Why do we have to have ANY violence in our entertainment?
Message edited by author 2008-07-11 09:17:28.
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07/11/2008 09:18:19 AM · #42 |
| So should they add another T to ATF making it Alcohol, Tobacco, Toy-guns & Firearms? "Ma'am, your son is under investigation by ATTF for possession of toy-guns with the intent to distribute to the neighborhood kids" |
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07/11/2008 09:25:41 AM · #43 |
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Robbie with his little toy gun.
Robbie's big toy gun.
I believe that I read that US Supreme court a few days ago, upheld that the right of the general populace to bear arms (2nd amendment,) was put into our laws in order that the society should be able to protect themselves from tyranny by their government. The first mandate in communism is to disarm the people.
By making the society's children ignorant by lack of contact with weapons, the first steps are in place for that to happen as the generations progress.
There has been a law against murder for a long time, but it don't seem to keep people from killing with guns. If you disarm everyone who is law abiding, then outlaws have free lunch with no fear of victimizing the general public. Have a good look at what has happened with violent crime in places where guns are not permitted. How can you not see that our 2nd amendment is a great thing.
Disarmament is not going to happen any time soon with my family.
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07/11/2008 09:28:49 AM · #44 |
Reminds me of a tragedy from a few years ago.
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07/11/2008 09:34:17 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
I grew up on Monopoly, the most violence in that game was when someone took over all of someone else's property and money. |
You obviously never played my brother. I can vividly remember him, aged 8 or 9 picking up the board and throwing across the room in temper! |
I obviously did not play with your brother, but it does sound like a kid that needed direction from his loving parents, or a kid with deeper problems.
But, again, people are missing the point here at DPC, and just don't get the punch line.
Why do we have to have ANY violence in our entertainment? |
For the same reason that we go on thrill (amusement) rides. For the same reason people sky dive. For the same reason people drive race cars. The list is endless. It's the thrill, the adrenaline rush. Living dangerously gives you that rush. And for the people who are too afraid to actually do any of those things, watching someone else do it gives almost the same kind of rush.
As for toy guns, when my son was born I said he wouldn't have them. Period. But, it seems that's what he gravitated towards. The thing is, when a little girls wants to grow up to be a mommy, we don't stop her from having baby dolls as her prop. When a little boy wants to grow up to be a cop or an army man, or even to fight dinosaurs, he wants his prop too.
edited for typo.
PS - One things I've always made sure of is that his toys always look like toys. Bright colored, safety orange tips, etc.
Message edited by author 2008-07-11 09:36:39. |
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07/11/2008 09:48:56 AM · #46 |
I'd like an official Red Ryder carbine action two-hundred shot range model air rifle with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time.
-Ralphie |
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07/11/2008 09:50:48 AM · #47 |
Anybody remember those really cool shiny silver cap guns? You'd put a roll of caps in it and fire away? Anyone know where I can get one and a roll or two of caps? Heh - remember the smell of those things, too? Am I getting really old or what??
Message edited by author 2008-07-11 09:51:26. |
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07/11/2008 09:53:29 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Anybody remember those really cool shiny silver cap guns? You'd put a roll of caps in it and fire away? Anyone know where I can get one and a roll or two of caps? Heh - remember the smell of those things, too? Am I getting really old or what?? |
Walmart still sells them. LOL! |
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07/11/2008 09:55:31 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Anybody remember those really cool shiny silver cap guns? You'd put a roll of caps in it and fire away? Anyone know where I can get one and a roll or two of caps? Heh - remember the smell of those things, too? Am I getting really old or what?? |
I had a cap gun, but we also had little spring loaded devices with a heavy metal end that you loaded with a cap and dropped/ threw to the floor - they were good fun! And i know whatyou mean aboutthe smell of the caps. I wonder whatthey were made of - carbide, perhaps? |
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07/11/2008 10:07:26 AM · #50 |
When our first child was born, we decided that toy guns would not be something we wanted in our home. My wife felt pretty strongly about the issue, and I was OK with it one way or the other.
As out son grew, I made it a point not to glorify war, (I fought in Vietnam), and rarely if ever discussed it.
Our son used other implements and toys as toy guns.
Today he is in the Army (his 9th year), was one of the first into Afghanistan with the 10th Mountain Division just weeks after 9/11, and has spent a couple of tours in Iraq. He will go back again in September, if plans do not change.
In the end, trying to avoid weapons created a child that was fascinated with them.
Perhaps all things in moderation is best after all. |
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