DPCprints fit? - DPChallenge Forums

11/10/2003 10:41:19 AM · #1

I was looking at a print of mine i want to buy
and in the shopping cart area, next to the image dimensions in paranthesis
is says fit.

curious what that refers to?

thanks,
soup

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

11/10/2003 12:08:20 PM · #2

no one knows?

would like to figure it out before i buy it...

hmmm

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

11/10/2003 12:24:55 PM · #3

I'm not totally sure but maybe it means it has been resized to fit the area, rather than cropped to fit the area?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/10/2003 12:29:07 PM · #4

its uncropped off the camera

sized down 1:50 ( with your tip i might add )

the image

wondering if its because there is no border?

soup

EddyG

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

11/10/2003 12:51:39 PM · #5

I'm pretty sure it means "fit the print to the requested size, adding a white border on the top/bottom or left/right if required". The other option would be "crop", which would mean "crop the print to the requested size, filling the printable area, but chopping off the top/bottom or left/right if required".

joshua

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/10/2003 12:54:02 PM · #6

i recently had the same issue with a 16x20 print of mine. i went through the private print store and purchased the print and it said (fit) which didn't make sense because it was a 16x20 so i just lowered the price on my own print and bought it from the public store to rid myself of worry

FranziskaLang

Nikon D100

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Nikon

11/10/2003 01:01:31 PM · #7

My understanding is that "Fit" comes up when the print size you are ordering has the same ratio as the print file (i.e., it fits). "Crop" comes up if you are trying to order an 8x10 from an 8x12 file for example.

drewmedia

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/10/2003 01:03:33 PM · #8

Eddy is correct. We have to tell the printer what to do if the print file dimension don't exactly match the dimensions of the requested print -- either to 'fit' or to 'crop' the print to that size. As Eddy said, 'fit' means add white space around the image to fit the size. If we calculate them to exactly match, we still have to send a crop/fit option, and we send 'fit' by default. Chances are pretty good I should either make that more clear or figure out a way not to show it in the correct circumstances. Sorry for the confusion!

Drew

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/10/2003 01:31:47 PM · #9

so every image is shrunk to accomodate a white border?
or does the process print to the edge?

i should add my own white border to avoid having a distorted print?

its a 10MB file and it took 1/2 the day to upload it. dont really want to have to do that again for a 1/4inch border...

appreciate all the input.
the image dimesions are exactly 16x24 i think

soup

Message edited by author 2003-11-10 13:33:14.

EddyG

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

11/10/2003 01:47:04 PM · #10

Originally posted by soup:

so every image is shrunk to accomodate a white border?

No, a white border would only be added to the print if your photo was not already at the correct aspect ratio. (i.e., you were trying to print a 4:3 photo right from your camera, with no cropping, as an 8x10).

If you crop to the correct aspect ratio for your desired print size, then there will be no "white border" added.

Message edited by author 2003-11-10 13:49:25.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

11/10/2003 02:01:58 PM · #11

cool, all set then,

thanks alot all

soup

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

11/10/2003 05:28:26 PM · #12

Originally posted by drewmedia:

The ideal would be to display a schematic print preview (like page layout programs do) to show how the image fits (or doesn't) on the selected paper.

PaulMdx

Canon EOS-1D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

11/10/2003 05:38:39 PM · #13

Not sure if it's of any interest Drew, but www.photobox.co.uk have a fairly sophisticated system of crop line overlaying of thumbnails to show where the pic will be cropped. I found it very easy to grasp what was going to happen the first time I used it.

(They also allow you to use the mouse to select a rectangle to crop yourself, but that may be a bit too much for DPC.)

drewmedia

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/10/2003 05:51:21 PM · #14

Originally posted by GeneralE:

The ideal would be to display a schematic print preview (like page layout programs do) to show how the image fits (or doesn't) on the selected paper.

We already do this! When you order prints from us, if your image doesn't fit the exact ratio, we show you your crop or fit options. Unless someone tells me otherwise, I think it's a pretty good system, and it's worked well so far. The only time you're not shown your options is when your ratio matches exactly and there's no need for you to pick anything. The only thing that's really up for debate is that from a back-end perspective, we have to put in some value for what's called the position -- crop or fit. We choose fit, but it's really arbitrary. What should really happen is that if you have not chosen fit but have just been arbitrarily assigned fit because of the need for this default value, you shouldn't be shown that default value.

Drew