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 06/12/2008 03:45:53 PM · #126
Irony, I am in Washington DC at this moment drove throught the night to make sure I squash any hopes for you guys and your communist society! BRHAHAHAHAHAHAHA actually I am up here on vacation drove through the night from Birmingham Stopped off at Luray Caverns That was actually pretty photogenic. Tired as hell right now but going to go down to the mall at dusk and shoots some photos then going to eat at Ebbits. Tomorrow I get a private tour of the Capital with my senator REP Jeff Sessions. I can here you guys turning over in your bed sleepless tonight. Not really. Luck to me is finding a dollar on the side of the road. Hitting the target blind folded and disoriented. Chance is a better term iMO for what you refer tp. And yes sometimes chance plays a factor. Networking in the hopes that by chance someone will remember you and offer you a better job. The chance that is you "choose" a certain field and plan to be educated in that field you will be able to find a job. Those are chances you take and the choices you make reflect on them. I have a BA in Political Science /pre law with a minor in Graphic art. I work in the IT field because I diversified myself at a young age. I made the connections by networking to further my carear. These people call me to offer jobs to me because I am a no bull hard working merit based type of guy. I expect a competitive salary and benefits and they expect a certain level of skills and experience and work ethic. As long as we agree on these we will continue this arrangement. It really is that simple. I believe most people make mistakes that place them in the perdicument they are in.
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by coronamv:
Hell Sounds good guys I'm gona quit work give up my benefits and just say I will let luck decide my future... Hell why work when I can get your guys "not ray he's in Canada" to Pay for my welfare. This actually sounds good now that I think of it. No not really. Let me say why I would never do those things. First I am my responsibility once I reach the age of adulthood. Until that point I am my parents responsibility(ie guardian) Also Using the everyone cannot be rich can be flipped around to say the same about the poor, so lets just consider that to have no point of value. It's simple someone has to pay. right? So we raise the taxes on everyone. The rich then pass the cost down and the poor pay none of it so the middle class falls apart from the over burdened cost they have inherited. So you end up with a Rich and poor class and no middle class. My opinion is train and educate the poor. show them how to improve their situation. That would be money well spent. Don't just give them a free ride. Make them have to work for it. Show them that if you apply yourself you can achieve a better life. No not everyone is going to become wealth, but no one should ever stop trying.


Well, aren't you quite the armchair economist? You should go to Washington D.C. and get the country back on track, with a little hard work, no luck needed, you could set everyone on the right path.

Your success may be partially attributable to your own hard work, but there's a good degree of luck involved too. Too bad you're so busy taking all the credit.
06/12/2008 05:43:28 PM · #127
If finding a dollar by the roadside is good luck, then losing a dollar must be bad luck. Sometimes you simply have bad luck.

As for us agreeing, I doubt we'll ever agree on much of anything. I simply can't imagine someone who comes across as crass, callous and arrogant as you do being worth the time. I hope that is simply a misperception, for the sake of those close to you.

Originally posted by coronamv:
Irony, I am in Washington DC at this moment drove throught the night to make sure I squash any hopes for you guys and your communist society! BRHAHAHAHAHAHAHA actually I am up here on vacation drove through the night from Birmingham Stopped off at Luray Caverns That was actually pretty photogenic. Tired as hell right now but going to go down to the mall at dusk and shoots some photos then going to eat at Ebbits. Tomorrow I get a private tour of the Capital with my senator REP Jeff Sessions. I can here you guys turning over in your bed sleepless tonight. Not really. Luck to me is finding a dollar on the side of the road. Hitting the target blind folded and disoriented. Chance is a better term iMO for what you refer tp. And yes sometimes chance plays a factor. Networking in the hopes that by chance someone will remember you and offer you a better job. The chance that is you "choose" a certain field and plan to be educated in that field you will be able to find a job. Those are chances you take and the choices you make reflect on them. I have a BA in Political Science /pre law with a minor in Graphic art. I work in the IT field because I diversified myself at a young age. I made the connections by networking to further my carear. These people call me to offer jobs to me because I am a no bull hard working merit based type of guy. I expect a competitive salary and benefits and they expect a certain level of skills and experience and work ethic. As long as we agree on these we will continue this arrangement. It really is that simple. I believe most people make mistakes that place them in the perdicument they are in.
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by coronamv:
Hell Sounds good guys I'm gona quit work give up my benefits and just say I will let luck decide my future... Hell why work when I can get your guys "not ray he's in Canada" to Pay for my welfare. This actually sounds good now that I think of it. No not really. Let me say why I would never do those things. First I am my responsibility once I reach the age of adulthood. Until that point I am my parents responsibility(ie guardian) Also Using the everyone cannot be rich can be flipped around to say the same about the poor, so lets just consider that to have no point of value. It's simple someone has to pay. right? So we raise the taxes on everyone. The rich then pass the cost down and the poor pay none of it so the middle class falls apart from the over burdened cost they have inherited. So you end up with a Rich and poor class and no middle class. My opinion is train and educate the poor. show them how to improve their situation. That would be money well spent. Don't just give them a free ride. Make them have to work for it. Show them that if you apply yourself you can achieve a better life. No not everyone is going to become wealth, but no one should ever stop trying.


Well, aren't you quite the armchair economist? You should go to Washington D.C. and get the country back on track, with a little hard work, no luck needed, you could set everyone on the right path.

Your success may be partially attributable to your own hard work, but there's a good degree of luck involved too. Too bad you're so busy taking all the credit.


Message edited by author 2008-06-12 17:45:06.
 06/12/2008 05:52:14 PM · #128
Originally posted by coronamv:
...snip... It really is that simple. I believe most people make mistakes that place them in the perdicument they are in.


Yeah, I made a couple of big ones. They were called heart attacks.
 06/13/2008 05:44:49 AM · #129
Originally posted by coronamv:
...snip... It really is that simple. I believe most people make mistakes that place them in the perdicument they are in.


Originally posted by Kelli:
Yeah, I made a couple of big ones. They were called heart attacks.

I was adopted......was that my fault?

I met the love of my life.........must have been a choice, right?
 06/13/2008 08:23:22 AM · #130
Well as I have stated before and Nikon Jeb pointed out Family and friends I don't mind helping its everyone else...... So For the Rude comment on me being crass and my miss-spellings. Get real I'm not righting a novel or turning in a term paper. This is a rant forum. And Circumstances can dictate where you are going but only by the choices you make to you have control. It is an either or world you can't have both ways. Either you take control of your life or you become a casualty of a driver out of control.
 06/13/2008 08:32:35 AM · #131
Originally posted by coronamv:
Well as I have stated before and Nikon Jeb pointed out Family and friends I don't mind helping its everyone else...... So For the Rude comment on me being crass and my miss-spellings. Get real I'm not righting a novel or turning in a term paper. This is a rant forum. And Circumstances can dictate where you are going but only by the choices you make to you have control. It is an either or world you can't have both ways. Either you take control of your life or you become a casualty of a driver out of control.


You're not "writing" a novel and it's an "either/or" world. ;) Sorry, couldn't resist.
 06/13/2008 09:09:47 AM · #132
Originally posted by coronamv:
Either you take control of your life or you become a casualty of a driver out of control.


Even the most careful drivers have been killed in accidents. They must have chosen to die, right?

And I never said anything about your spelling.

Message edited by author 2008-06-13 09:10:47.
 06/13/2008 09:39:19 AM · #133
Predicament. :P (That one was really bugging me.)
 06/13/2008 10:42:02 AM · #134
Originally posted by coronamv:
Well as I have stated before and Nikon Jeb pointed out Family and friends I don't mind helping its everyone else...... So For the Rude comment on me being crass and my miss-spellings. Get real I'm not righting a novel or turning in a term paper. This is a rant forum. And Circumstances can dictate where you are going but only by the choices you make to you have control. It is an either or world you can't have both ways. Either you take control of your life or you become a casualty of a driver out of control.

Not to be pedantic or picayune, but WTF does this sentence actually mean?????

And Circumstances can dictate where you are going but only by the choices you make to you have control

It's hard to conduct an intelligent exchange if I can't follow your meaning. I also don't feel like I should have to slog through a bunch of atrocious spelling and grammatical errors so egregious that the meaning becomes muddied.

Is it asking too much for you to have the courtesy to create a clear post?

Just to reiterate, in *MY* life, I can make choices, and use judgement, but I have *NO* control over the outcome because of circumstances.
 06/14/2008 05:59:37 AM · #135
Originally posted by Louis:
Predicament. :P (That one was really bugging me.)


I quite like "perdicument" - I get a sense of how coranmv talks in real life that adds a certain flavour to his comments.
 06/14/2008 07:47:43 AM · #136
Oh, sucumstances was a personal favorite of mine!
 06/14/2008 07:56:13 AM · #137
Originally posted by Louis:
Predicament. :P (That one was really bugging me.)

Originally posted by Matthew:
I quite like "perdicument" - I get a sense of how coranmv talks in real life that adds a certain flavour to his comments.

From the impression I've gotten, perhaps "perdikament" might be more in keeping with the flavo(u)r........8>)
 06/16/2008 11:22:26 PM · #138
See what you done gone and done.

Ya bitch about the poor fella's spelling so now he is afraid to post... fearing you might point out errors in grammar and the like and not play close attention to his message. :O)

Ray

06/17/2008 02:11:40 PM · #139
No point in continuing a debate where one side decides they have nothing left intelligent to debate so as to start acting like small children and calling names. In a debate structure that is called loosing. To stoop to having to pick on other stuff instead of winning the argument outright, but who am I to argue that with my misspelled words and typing errors. I will go back to my health insurance and nice lifestyle and continue to vote down all the things that would make your lives better. Who wins then?
 06/17/2008 02:13:49 PM · #140
Originally posted by coronamv:
No point in continuing a debate where one side decides they have nothing left intelligent to debate so as to start acting like small children and calling names. In a debate structure that is called loosing. To stoop to having to pick on other stuff instead of winning the argument outright, but who am I to argue that with my misspelled words and typing errors. I will go back to my health insurance and nice lifestyle and continue to vote down all the things that would make your lives better. Who wins then?


It's spelled "losing".
 06/17/2008 02:37:26 PM · #141
Originally posted by coronamv:
No point in continuing a debate where one side decides they have nothing left intelligent to debate so as to start acting like small children and calling names. In a debate structure that is called loosing. To stoop to having to pick on other stuff instead of winning the argument outright, but who am I to argue that with my misspelled words and typing errors. I will go back to my health insurance and nice lifestyle and continue to vote down all the things that would make your lives better. Who wins then?


Like loosening the knot? Or do you mean taking your ball and going home to sulk with a big pouty lip?

Perhaps one day, you'll be given the gift of true suffering.
 06/17/2008 02:58:03 PM · #142
Originally posted by coronamv:
I will go back to my health insurance and nice lifestyle and continue to vote down all the things that would make your lives better. Who wins then?


Don't know about you and your friends bub, but I can guarantee you that I will be the winner in this instance because...

a) you can't possibly vote down anything that will make my life better and...
b) I am probably already enjoying the lifestyle you so desperately want.

Ray
 06/17/2008 03:17:55 PM · #143
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Not to be pedantic or picayune, but WTF does this sentence actually mean?????

And Circumstances can dictate where you are going but only by the choices you make to you have control

It's hard to conduct an intelligent exchange if I can't follow your meaning. I also don't feel like I should have to slog through a bunch of atrocious spelling and grammatical errors so egregious that the meaning becomes muddied.

Is it asking too much for you to have the courtesy to create a clear post?

Just to reiterate, in *MY* life, I can make choices, and use judgement, but I have *NO* control over the outcome because of circumstances.


Reminds me of the old rhyme:

One ship goes east and another west
by the self-same winds that blow:
'tis the set of the sail, and not the gale,
that tells them the way to go...

R.

06/17/2008 05:11:19 PM · #144
I love this argument. The only difference between the CEO of a major company and the guy that pumps his gas is luck. Level of effort, taking the tough choices and sacrifices had nothing to do with it. All just dumb luck.

Then they truly compassionate people here beat someone up for bad spelling and grammar! Oh the irony!
06/17/2008 05:26:11 PM · #145
Originally posted by LoudDog:
I love this argument. The only difference between the CEO of a major company and the guy that pumps his gas is luck. Level of effort, taking the tough choices and sacrifices had nothing to do with it. All just dumb luck.


I haven̢۪t made any of those arguments nor do I agree with them. I̢۪m also having difficulty finding where anyone made the specific argument to which you̢۪re referring. (Though, admittedly, I̢۪m not looking particularly hard.) Could you point out where it is?

Originally posted by LoudDog:
Then they truly compassionate people here beat someone up for bad spelling and grammar! Oh the irony!

As for coronamv̢۪s spelling, as far as I can see, coronamv was the one who brought it up in the first place. If someone is intent on feeling persecuted over silly things, I feel myself perversely obligated to help them achieve their goals. It is, alas, a cross that I must bear.

Message edited by author 2008-06-17 17:27:08.
 06/17/2008 06:25:27 PM · #146
Originally posted by LoudDog:
I love this argument. The only difference between the CEO of a major company and the guy that pumps his gas is luck. Level of effort, taking the tough choices and sacrifices had nothing to do with it. All just dumb luck.


It's not luck. It's a class system. George W. Bush did not require ability, effort or luck to get where he is. It was his birthright.
 06/17/2008 06:43:50 PM · #147
Originally posted by coronamv:
No point in continuing a debate where one side decides they have nothing left intelligent to debate so as to start acting like small children and calling names. In a debate structure that is called loosing. To stoop to having to pick on other stuff instead of winning the argument outright, but who am I to argue that with my misspelled words and typing errors. I will go back to my health insurance and nice lifestyle and continue to vote down all the things that would make your lives better. Who wins then?


I must admit, some of the critical comments are quite unnecessary. However, there is a certain irony in your claims to educational success and enhanced business skills, all the while demonstrating a certain incapacity with language. It diminishes the strength of your argument.

I know that spelling is far from key in a number of jobs, nor is it a good guide to a number of other business skills. However, in the anonymity of the written page, the way you use words will lead people to make assumptions and pass judgement accordingly.

I remain interested in your opinions. I don't personally need any financial assistance, but I have no desire to live in a world where we ignore the iniquities of chance and deep inequality as a community. It seems to be quite inhuman to ignore people who are starving when you have plenty, and even worse to hold up the dying as an example for why the living should work harder.
06/17/2008 07:49:57 PM · #148
Originally posted by milo655321:
I̢۪m also having difficulty finding where anyone made the specific argument to which you̢۪re referring. (Though, admittedly, I̢۪m not looking particularly hard.) Could you point out where it is?


With a little effort I think you can do it!
 06/17/2008 07:51:19 PM · #149
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by LoudDog:
I love this argument. The only difference between the CEO of a major company and the guy that pumps his gas is luck. Level of effort, taking the tough choices and sacrifices had nothing to do with it. All just dumb luck.


It's not luck. It's a class system. George W. Bush did not require ability, effort or luck to get where he is. It was his birthright.


Brilliant!
 06/17/2008 07:54:30 PM · #150
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Originally posted by milo655321:
I̢۪m also having difficulty finding where anyone made the specific argument to which you̢۪re referring. (Though, admittedly, I̢۪m not looking particularly hard.) Could you point out where it is?


With a little effort I think you can do it!


Sorry. You made the claim. The burden of evidence is on you.
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