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06/17/2008 10:10:47 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by RonB:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Then again, I forgot who I replied to, so I suppose that nit-picking over minor semantics issues and being argumentative while avoiding the original issue is just what I should expect. |
What is the original issue, and who caused the discussion to digress by introducing ethics into the mix? |
At the time I posted, the discussion was about corporate responsibility. If you can't see how corporate ethics ties in to that, I suggest some new glasses. You however took exception to one statement and decided to derail the whole thread with your personal definition of "major" and nit-picking, rather than discussing the topic as it stood. But, again, I suppose it's my fault for expecting anything else from you. |
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06/17/2008 10:22:38 AM · #77 |
| Petro-Canada. I have to agree with Ron. PetroCan is a major player. It's a "mid-sized global company as measured by production levels," but is "well positioned to compete in the petroleum product refining and marketing business in Canada" despite the global players in Canada. PetroCan is regional as far as its retail outlets is concerned, but is expanding into global markets. Any company with revenues of $18,000,000 is not insignificant. Comparatively, it's small, but is vital to the health of the Canadian economy, which, as I've said, is in good shape, especially against the US economy. And have you considered that its small size lends itself well to being socially responsible and ethical? |
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06/17/2008 10:45:19 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Petro-Canada. I have to agree with Ron. PetroCan is a major player. It's a "mid-sized global company as measured by production levels," but is "well positioned to compete in the petroleum product refining and marketing business in Canada" despite the global players in Canada. PetroCan is regional as far as its retail outlets is concerned, but is expanding into global markets. Any company with revenues of $18,000,000 is not insignificant. Comparatively, it's small, but is vital to the health of the Canadian economy, which, as I've said, is in good shape, especially against the US economy. And have you considered that its small size lends itself well to being socially responsible and ethical? |
I never questioned their placement on the list, only that they are not a big player in the global market and therefore not "major".
The issue over semantics regarding the term "major" aside, why are none of the (to avoid another digression over a definition) "Really Friggin' Big Oil Companies" on that or similar lists? |
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06/17/2008 11:12:20 AM · #79 |
Have watched this thread derail with some amusement.
Can't resist throwing my two cents in to the OP.
I am from an old money family.....vile, filthy rich, with the appropriate provenance as far as breeding, and it is funny how the perception of vast money bringing happiness is so rampant.
Our family had the same dysfunctional issues as any other family with the exception that....
A. It was always thought that money could buy the solution to any problem....it cannot.
B. Once the money solution was exhausted and found to be insiufficient, there was a severe dearth of what really makes a family, love and hard work, so in my case, I was given a f*ck-you stipend, and sent packing, effectively disowned, with the legal document to prove it.
You don't know how ugly money is 'til you get a letter from your father's lawyer telling you to never even ask for a quarter for a phone call.
God forbid that the money that was handed down possibly be dealt with in a frivolous manner.....can't have that! MUST preserve the family heritage and good name!
BTW, when my father dies, the family heritage is done. So what does that legacy become?
My daughter is growing up not knowing her grandfather, but she knows the love and involvement of her father.
Money?
It *IS* the root of an awful lot of evil. It does make people do awful things. You may not believe that it is anything but the love of money, but trust me, when you're born into it, and it's been dealt with in a particular manner for generations, there is more to the evil of the money itself than you might imagine.
Funny thing is......having been around moneyed folks, and people who are genuine people who live and love as regular people, I'll take the people whose lives aren't governed by the almighty dollar any time.
Just as an aside......my father theoretically taught me to make something of myself, and I did, with friends and associates all over the world from my 35 years of British car involvement.....friends that I have to this day.....yet the blue-collar perception, rather than the lifestyle and people I became involved with was all my father saw, therefore rendering me a disgrace in his eyes.
Personally, having become richer as a person from learning, and growing as a person through people I've met through my love of cars and photography has made me feel that my life is pretty wonderful.
I got a comment in a challenge a little while back that compared my image to a great French master......that is the kind of value that I get without money. You cannot buy things that really matter in life.
Love, respect, compassion, knowledge........they're not for sale.
Keep your money, I certainly don't want it.
It's never shown me anything but the evil necessity of it to get by, and misery.
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06/17/2008 11:18:46 AM · #80 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Louis:
Petro-Canada. I have to agree with Ron. PetroCan is a major player. It's a "mid-sized global company as measured by production levels," but is "well positioned to compete in the petroleum product refining and marketing business in Canada" despite the global players in Canada. PetroCan is regional as far as its retail outlets is concerned, but is expanding into global markets. Any company with revenues of $18,000,000 is not insignificant. Comparatively, it's small, but is vital to the health of the Canadian economy, which, as I've said, is in good shape, especially against the US economy. And have you considered that its small size lends itself well to being socially responsible and ethical? |
I never questioned their placement on the list, only that they are not a big player in the global market and therefore not "major".
The issue over semantics regarding the term "major" aside, why are none of the (to avoid another digression over a definition) "Really Friggin' Big Oil Companies" on that or similar lists? |
Simple: because the judges who compile the list(s) do not consider any of the "Really Friggin' Big Oil Companies" to be in the top 100 most ethical companies ( along with some "Really Friggin' Big" companies in other sectors ).
But, for all you know, a "major" ( by your definition ) oil company could have just missed the list at number 101. ( FWIW, Royal Dutch/Shell WAS on the list last year ( though you may not consider it to be a "major" oil company, and I really don't think that you would consider it to be a "Really Friggin' Big Oil Company" ). |
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06/17/2008 01:39:09 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by RonB:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Louis:
Petro-Canada. I have to agree with Ron. PetroCan is a major player. It's a "mid-sized global company as measured by production levels," but is "well positioned to compete in the petroleum product refining and marketing business in Canada" despite the global players in Canada. PetroCan is regional as far as its retail outlets is concerned, but is expanding into global markets. Any company with revenues of $18,000,000 is not insignificant. Comparatively, it's small, but is vital to the health of the Canadian economy, which, as I've said, is in good shape, especially against the US economy. And have you considered that its small size lends itself well to being socially responsible and ethical? |
I never questioned their placement on the list, only that they are not a big player in the global market and therefore not "major".
The issue over semantics regarding the term "major" aside, why are none of the (to avoid another digression over a definition) "Really Friggin' Big Oil Companies" on that or similar lists? |
Simple: because the judges who compile the list(s) do not consider any of the "Really Friggin' Big Oil Companies" to be in the top 100 most ethical companies ( along with some "Really Friggin' Big" companies in other sectors ).
But, for all you know, a "major" ( by your definition ) oil company could have just missed the list at number 101. ( FWIW, Royal Dutch/Shell WAS on the list last year ( though you may not consider it to be a "major" oil company, and I really don't think that you would consider it to be a "Really Friggin' Big Oil Company" ). |
You're so abrasive it's funny. |
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06/17/2008 01:46:41 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I got a comment in a challenge a little while back that compared my image to a great French master......that is the kind of value that I get without money. |
Confession: Your dad paid me to say that. :P |
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06/17/2008 01:52:58 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I got a comment in a challenge a little while back that compared my image to a great French master......that is the kind of value that I get without money. |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Confession: Your dad paid me to say that. :P |
Didn't read that post close enough.
I don't have a dad any more.
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06/17/2008 02:03:25 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Didn't read that post close enough. |
Clearly. :/ Sorry bout that.
Let's get back to trashing those evil, greedy oil companies... |
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06/17/2008 08:30:05 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
. . .
It *IS* the root of an awful lot of evil. It does make people do awful things. You may not believe that it is anything but the love of money, but trust me, when you're born into it, and it's been dealt with in a particular manner for generations, there is more to the evil of the money itself than you might imagine.
. . . Personally, having become richer as a person from learning, and growing as a person through people I've met through my love of cars and photography has made me feel that my life is pretty wonderful.
I got a comment in a challenge a little while back that compared my image to a great French master......that is the kind of value that I get without money. You cannot buy things that really matter in life.
Love, respect, compassion, knowledge........they're not for sale.
It's never shown me anything but the evil necessity of it to get by, and misery. |
So, FocusPoint, don't ever buy an oil company or people will envy you.
Buy into Hydrogen Refueling Stations, gasoline/oil will eventually become dinasaurs.
I just have to say 3-cheers and 3-beers for the above quotes.
I have read some interesting thoughts by John Ciardi, about the trip itself giving the satisfaction. And Abraham Maslows hierarchy of needs. Well once our basic needs are satisfied, what brings us satisfaction and happiness. It's not just-money. Way back in my twenties I taught myself on Beatles song on an organ, "Money Can't Buy Me Love".
But money can buy you Time to seek the real good things in life. Just don't let it (money) take you over and control your life. Don't hurt others over it. And in Ohio, they came up with a slogan once to attract business "Profit is not a dirty word". |
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06/17/2008 09:12:59 PM · #86 |
radix malorum est cupiditas
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
For what it is worth, in re: earlier posts, the correct quotation is NOT "Money is the root of all evil", it is "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil."
Think about that for a bit, and you'll realize it's a defensible statement, even if you don't totally agree with it. But saying that "money" is the root of all evil is patently absurd...
R. |
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06/17/2008 09:31:41 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
For what it is worth, in re: earlier posts, the correct quotation is NOT "Money is the root of all evil", it is "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil." |
Interestingly (and as a side note), in the New King James Version, the saying goes as follows:
Originally posted by 1 Timothy 6:10 (NKJV):
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. |
While the original KJV does, as you posted, say "For the love of money is the root of all evil, ...", I think the newer is a more accruate statement on morality. |
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