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06/17/2008 05:11:57 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by goc:
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Is not, but nice try!
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06/17/2008 05:14:46 AM · #52 |
Heres one you can show them that they might like :)
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06/17/2008 05:38:34 AM · #53 |
Hmmm, after reading through this post a few possibilities pop into mind. I'm not saying any of these are true, just possibilites.
1.) Crazy ex-girlfriend (or boyfriend I suppose). I've made the mistake of breaking up with (or not calling) more than a few unbalanced women in my time. People who are otherwise normal can go Bat Sh|t Crazy when confronted with a break up. They can go from 0 to vindictive in about 3 seconds flat. Might want to check into some of your ex's. Someone might be holding a grudge and turning your name in to certain agencies, groups or departments.
2.) Got a criminal record? It's really no one's business but your own, but if you do, you may have found yourself on a short list with the police and certain groups in your area. Usual suspects type of deal. They may feel that a little harassment will keep you honest (or maybe convince you to move on). It's been known to happen, more so in smaller communities.
3.) Are you a different race or sexual orientation than the majority of the people in your area? It's a sad state, but prejudice can cause some pretty ugly actions from people.
4.) Just a push for some attention, not really happening (not saying thats what you are doing, but It's not like it's unheard of for people to post outlandish stories for a little exposure. no offense)
Now, going on the assumption that this is really happening I very much doubt it has anything to do with your images. Flaming on a website is common if not expected for everyone, regardless of medium or talent level, but it doesn't carry over into the real world. It just doesn't happen.
There has to be something else about you that is attracting this negative attention. Now if you are displaying your images somewhere local (or a website used by many locals), that may be putting you in the public eye and bringing attention to whatever it is that they take offense with (because I can't see it being the images themselves. You see more offensive imagery on CSI Miami for Christ's sake). Best bet, take a look at yourself and you will find what it is.
Just some thoughts off the top of my head, not meant to offend anyone. |
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06/17/2008 07:36:29 AM · #54 |
| beecee > maybe, I was thinking the same. |
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06/17/2008 07:39:06 AM · #55 |
DDigital
I don't have any criminal record, I am totally straight, although divorced, but on great terms with the ex. As for attention, I definately want less, not more! |
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06/17/2008 07:56:15 AM · #56 |
Attention all shoppers!
This thread has been put on ignore, enough with the wasting of people's time already! |
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06/17/2008 08:22:59 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Attention all shoppers!
This thread has been put on ignore, enough with the wasting of people's time already! |
On a personal note, I would like to think that I am the best judge of what constitutes a waste of "MY" time and will ignore your comment.
Ray |
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06/17/2008 08:28:43 AM · #58 |
Iconoclast
The idea has been around for awhile.
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06/17/2008 08:56:36 AM · #59 |
"... and that's why I don't eat shrimp"
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06/17/2008 09:20:43 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
I have done these types of images in the past and have been harassed to no end. These 4 images have been up for just a couple of days and already I have been harassed at my home, by this group... |
I'm obviously not alone in thinking your story may be incomplete, because it doesn't make much sense as presented. The only thing I can guess is that maybe some of the "images in the past" were offensive to these people and the harassment stems from those rather than the current stuff. Either that, or maybe they have some issue with the source photographer (Dan Chusid). |
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06/17/2008 09:24:58 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
- On my profile page I have temporarily posted 4 photoshop art images that I recently put together mainly for this thread.
- These 4 images have been up for just a couple of days and already I have been harassed |
Sorry, these two statements together make no sense. You posted them to talk about harassment, and then by posting them you got harassed? You either need to work on your story or on your communication skills! Or (and I don't mean this in a mocking way) maybe you are just feeling paranoid?
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06/17/2008 09:34:56 AM · #62 |
| This whole thing just makes no sense. Sometimes actions stimulate reactions that are not expected. Like calling attention to images in your portfolio which so far have received collectively 821 views which also, I assume, means your profile has received a jump in the number of views as well. However, at least one of those profile views will have an impact I am sure you will not appreciate all that much. |
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06/17/2008 09:46:22 AM · #63 |
"Anyone else here on dpchallenge run into religious fanatics trying to drive you out of photography or imaging/design work?"
No, but I have run into some anti-religious nuts who seem to do that. But very far and few between. Most people on DPC seem to be decent folk be they religious, atheist or in between.
"I am just hoping to capture some opinions on how to deal with self righteous arrogant fanatics that think they have the ultimate plan for mankind."
Frankly, by posting this post, it makes you seem to be a part of this category. Guess what...the fanatics who attack and demonize people exist on both the religious and atheist side of the fence. And both religious and atheist people are attacked by the fanatics on the opposite side.
Now I'm not sure what nut jobs these are...but my advice "ignore them". I looked at the four images you had. I found them not only to be artistically tasteful but profoundly beautiful. Enough that I added your work to my favorites.
BTW, I am one of those religious whacko nutjobs from Pennsylvania clinging to my guns and religion (and quite proud of it too). That said, there are many religious and atheist people, in fact, there are just plain many people who can't live without forcing their views on others. Many of whom are not even capable of making rational arguments for why they take a given stance.
That said, there are many irregardless of their theology or lack there of, who have strong beliefs. But do not go out of their way to hunt people to criticize and antagonize. Those few antagonistic individuals are exceptions, albeit, sometimes annoying ones. Whether it's the religious guy trying to impose his beliefs in an in your face manner or the atheist with the agenda going into a church and trying to cause a ruckus. Both fall into that category of human beings who are not contributing in a positive manner.
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I am also somewhat confused, I looked at the four photos and I do not see any comments attacking or criticizing them. From where are you getting these so-called religious attacks from?
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"One of my previous images was of a crying child with a backround of war-time ruins. The message was anti-war. That same week I also created an image
with a young lady with a bruised eye (makeup), with a message of "stop domestic violence". That same evening I had a stuck-up woman show up at my door
with a resident Physchiatric doctor from the local hospital questioning me if I had hurt anyone today or in the near past. Took me 1/2 hour convince and
explain to these people that I did nothing."
That doesn't sound like religious fanatics. That sounds like the typical actions of a strong socialist government that plays "father state knows best" role. Or the DCYS, child services will jump on any possibility...though often ignore a child's direct pleas for help. Never understood that, but my wife explains that it's really about keeping enough cases open to keep that budget wide open.
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THIS JUST IN.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!
Department of Child and Youth Protection Services caught masquerading as JW door-to-door evangelists in order to infiltrate and investigate homes without warrants. ;-)
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06/17/2008 09:47:32 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by citymars:
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
- On my profile page I have temporarily posted 4 photoshop art images that I recently put together mainly for this thread.
- These 4 images have been up for just a couple of days and already I have been harassed |
Sorry, these two statements together make no sense. You posted them to talk about harassment, and then by posting them you got harassed? You either need to work on your story or on your communication skills! Or (and I don't mean this in a mocking way) maybe you are just feeling paranoid? |
Although it has been difficult to follow this thread, he did state that the harrassment stems from posting these images on pbase (not DPC).
If I'm reading this right  dieselphoto, you posted there (pbase), got harassed and are now posting here to see if anyone finds them offensive in any way. Correct? Are the people harassing you connected in any way to the person who took the photos? Are these composites? How exactly have you changed them from the original? What is the primary purpose of each photo that you have changed? And lastly, are you using them within the stock allowable usage agreement? |
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06/17/2008 10:02:43 AM · #65 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by Louis:
They're lovely photos, exactly the kind of stuff I like. There is nothing in the least controversial about them; anyone who has said so probably needs their head examined. Perhaps the people coming to your door are Jehovah's Witnesses, and their interest in you has nothing to do with photography? (I usually invite such people in and tell them why I'm not a Witness. Sometimes they come back -- I make an impressive espresso -- usually not.)
None of the photos have photographer's comments. If you could add a few to let us know the meaning behind them, perhaps it would help. It's not obvious from the pictures themselves, which are beautiful but enigmatic. |
That is a perfectly logical explanation. . . |
I HIGHLY doubt they are Jehovah's Witnesses....thats not how we operate. Not that every religion doesnt have the kind of people you dont want people to look at as representing your faith but as a group I can guarantee that is not us. |
You'll notice I said, "their interest in you has nothing to do with photography". If he's disinclined to listen to religious talk, and he's upset about unannounced visits by strange art critics, it's not unreasonable to speculate that he's mixed up one visit for another. I do believe you operate via unannounced visits for the purpose of prosyletizing. (If you don't, maybe you could write our local Kingdom Hall and ask them to kindly stop. On a separate topic, if they're asked to stop coming to a particular house, do they all respect that?)
I just want to also say that nobody knows the particular circumstances of dieselphoto, or why he's posting this, or what's in his head, so maybe you should be a little more respectful until you know details, or refrain from posting if all you can do is insult him. You may think you're protecting yourself from some perceived slight, but maybe you're just injuring somebody. |
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06/17/2008 10:07:34 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by Louis:
On a separate topic, if they're asked to stop coming to a particular house, do they all respect that?)
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Around here, they seem to.
back on topic, now |
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06/17/2008 10:13:46 AM · #67 |
kelli > yes the problems stem from pbase, not dpchallenge. I love dpchallenge and have NEVER had any issues with anyone here. Dan Chusid freely allowed usage of
any of his current images to come up with whatever I wanted, so I don't beleive it could be Dan. The last image attacked on pbase was the "cat" photo of all things.
I had a conversation with "dehl" on pbase who hated the thought of photoshop images being on pbase, and basically stated pbase is for photographers only. I also was
asked by pbase magazine to do a tutorial on photoshop, but I turned them down. I wonder if that might have something to do with it? |
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06/17/2008 10:32:15 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
kelli > yes the problems stem from pbase, not dpchallenge. I love dpchallenge and have NEVER had any issues with anyone here. Dan Chusid freely allowed usage of
any of his current images to come up with whatever I wanted, so I don't beleive it could be Dan. The last image attacked on pbase was the "cat" photo of all things.
I had a conversation with "dehl" on pbase who hated the thought of photoshop images being on pbase, and basically stated pbase is for photographers only. I also was
asked by pbase magazine to do a tutorial on photoshop, but I turned them down. I wonder if that might have something to do with it? |
What I think everyone is having a hard time with is this... the argument over "pure" photography & "photoshopped" photography & "digital art" is on going on many sites. Everyone has their own view and no one person is right or wrong because your "opinion" can never be wrong. BUT, and this is the hard part to understand, why would someone come to your job over this??? Do you know these people personally? It just seems bizarre in this day and age to carry an online argument over something as stupid as this into real life harassment which is so easy to report to the police. Why in the world would you let someone harass you so far as to quit your job? Is there more to this??? |
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06/17/2008 11:03:57 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Heres one you can show them that they might like :)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now you're not JUST my photography hero Kiwiness. |
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06/17/2008 11:06:09 AM · #70 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
smardaz..........that's easy!
One of my previous images was of a crying child with a backround of war-time ruins. The message was anti-war. That same week I also created an image with a young lady with a bruised eye (makeup), with a message of "stop domestic violence". That same evening I had a stuck-up woman show up at my door with a resident Physchiatric doctor from the local hospital questioning me if I had hurt anyone today or in the near past. Took me 1/2 hour convince and explain to these people that I did nothing. |
This is beyond bizarre - none of the story is adding up at all. You posted that you are being harassed by "religious fanatics" about one or more of the four images in your profile and here you are talking about two other images that you think prompted a visit by a stuck-up woman and a local psychiatrist. AND - you spoke with them for a half hour trying to convince them you didn't harm a woman?? Did you serve tea?
Wait right there, dude, I am sending over another psychiatrist to ask you a few more quesitons... |
I am glad you said it. I was either too polite or too chicken to say it, but that is exactly what was in my mind. Does the word 'paranoia' ring a bell? |
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06/17/2008 11:08:15 AM · #71 |
| How about the word "sensitivity"? |
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06/17/2008 11:50:56 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
kelli > yes the problems stem from pbase, not dpchallenge. I love dpchallenge and have NEVER had any issues with anyone here. Dan Chusid freely allowed usage of
any of his current images to come up with whatever I wanted, so I don't beleive it could be Dan. The last image attacked on pbase was the "cat" photo of all things.
I had a conversation with "dehl" on pbase who hated the thought of photoshop images being on pbase, and basically stated pbase is for photographers only. I also was
asked by pbase magazine to do a tutorial on photoshop, but I turned them down. I wonder if that might have something to do with it? |
...curious, are the images you have posted here and on Pbase made using someone else's images entirely? There was no mention of this until Scalvert mentioned Dan Chusid. Until this little fact was mentioned I assumed they were your images entirely, meaning you did all the photographing and photoshopping, particularly since you "signed" them. There is nothing offensive about the images and I still don't see what religion has to do with any of this other than making a juicy thread title.
Are you being "harrassed" online due to copyright infringement? Do the harassers know you've had permission to use others images for the montages? Something does not compute. How about a link to your pbase page?
ETA:Just noticed both your's and Dan's names are on the images. Maybe people don't like what you did with Dan Chusid's images? Were the finished montages signed the same when posted on pbase? I'm just trying to figure this out...so confusing.
Message edited by author 2008-06-17 12:00:14. |
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06/17/2008 12:08:42 PM · #73 |
| I move we all chip in for a shrink and settle the issue. |
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06/17/2008 12:25:18 PM · #74 |
| Maybe you could get a sensitivity counsellor while you're spending our money. |
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06/17/2008 12:28:21 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
I move we all chip in for a shrink and settle the issue. |
Why do you need a shrink?
Ray |
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