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06/16/2008 12:32:58 PM · #1 |
| I am trying to decide which one should be my next investment.. I do studio work with two ab800, two octaboxes, one Giant size softbox.. I want a light meter so I can learn how to use it to nail exposure, or another ab800 for a third light so I can have two lights pointed at my white background and one on the subject.. HELP!!! |
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06/16/2008 12:42:55 PM · #2 |
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06/16/2008 12:46:23 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Get both. |
AB400 and light meter? |
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06/16/2008 12:50:52 PM · #4 |
| why would I need a ab 400? |
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06/16/2008 12:56:24 PM · #5 |
| If you have to choose, get the meter. In all honesty, you're just shooting in the dark without one. |
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06/16/2008 01:01:14 PM · #6 |
| I was pushing toward the meter....I already got two ab800s, I really wanted to blow out my whitebackgrounds with two lights instead of placing one light toward the background and one toward the subject.. |
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06/16/2008 01:01:25 PM · #7 |
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06/16/2008 01:08:12 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Dlove:
shooting in the dark? |
Guessing. |
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06/16/2008 01:08:49 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Dlove:
why would I need a ab 400? |
It's cheaper. You don't necessarily need another 800 for fill or rim light. |
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06/16/2008 01:21:25 PM · #10 |
| how would I blowout my whitebackground with one light? the other side will cast a shadow!! |
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06/16/2008 01:27:33 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Dlove:
how would I blowout my whitebackground with one light? the other side will cast a shadow!! |
Put two lights on the background/sides and use a third one at lower power for fill. |
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06/16/2008 01:31:43 PM · #12 |
| You have a meter already, in your camera. Get the light and become better acquainted with your histogram. |
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06/16/2008 01:54:20 PM · #13 |
| I heard the meter in camera is not as accurate. |
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06/16/2008 02:49:32 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Dlove:
I heard the meter in camera is not as accurate. |
Your histogram doesn't lie; it IS the image. Learn to read the meter you already have instead of wasting money on a different one. |
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06/16/2008 03:29:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by option:
You have a meter already, in your camera. Get the light and become better acquainted with your histogram. |
Sure, spend all day dinking around balancing light sources chimping and making guesses vs. using the meter and nailing the exposure in minutes. Great idea.
Especially for studio work where a client is watching you futz around wondering if you have any idea what you're doing.
Get the right equipment for the job.
Message edited by author 2008-06-16 15:30:58. |
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06/16/2008 03:38:32 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
You have a meter already, in your camera. Get the light and become better acquainted with your histogram. |
Sure, spend all day dinking around balancing light sources chimping and making guesses vs. using the meter and nailing the exposure in minutes. Great idea.
Especially for studio work where a client is watching you futz around wondering if you have any idea what you're doing.
Get the right equipment for the job. |
I don't know what you're doing, but it certainly doesn't take me "all day" to get my lights dialed... |
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06/16/2008 04:06:56 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
You have a meter already, in your camera. Get the light and become better acquainted with your histogram. |
Sure, spend all day dinking around balancing light sources chimping and making guesses vs. using the meter and nailing the exposure in minutes. Great idea.
Especially for studio work where a client is watching you futz around wondering if you have any idea what you're doing.
Get the right equipment for the job. |
I don't know what you're doing, but it certainly doesn't take me "all day" to get my lights dialed... |
If a SWAG is good enough for you, great. Maybe your clients don't expect any better.
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06/16/2008 04:17:04 PM · #18 |
I agree. I was doing a family photoshoot and even for family having to guess and play around is really unacceptable. Double that when there is any sort of time frame weighing down on everyone.
*adds light meter to buy list* sighs...
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06/16/2008 04:19:12 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Dlove:
I heard the meter in camera is not as accurate. |
Your histogram doesn't lie; it IS the image. Learn to read the meter you already have instead of wasting money on a different one. |
Your histogram tells you what the camera sees, but it doesn't tell you what your lights are doing. When you're setting up, it's extremely helpful to know exactly what your lights are outputting. I'd hate working in the studio without one.
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06/16/2008 04:37:35 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
You have a meter already, in your camera. Get the light and become better acquainted with your histogram. |
Sure, spend all day dinking around balancing light sources chimping and making guesses vs. using the meter and nailing the exposure in minutes. Great idea.
Especially for studio work where a client is watching you futz around wondering if you have any idea what you're doing.
Get the right equipment for the job. |
I don't know what you're doing, but it certainly doesn't take me "all day" to get my lights dialed... |
If a SWAG is good enough for you, great. Maybe your clients don't expect any better. |
Are you serious? How on earth does taking a couple test shots take any longer than metering each flash, or look less professional?
About 5 minutes in you can see just how simple it is.
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06/16/2008 04:40:51 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
You have a meter already, in your camera. Get the light and become better acquainted with your histogram. |
Sure, spend all day dinking around balancing light sources chimping and making guesses vs. using the meter and nailing the exposure in minutes. Great idea.
Especially for studio work where a client is watching you futz around wondering if you have any idea what you're doing.
Get the right equipment for the job. |
I don't know what you're doing, but it certainly doesn't take me "all day" to get my lights dialed... |
If a SWAG is good enough for you, great. Maybe your clients don't expect any better. |
Are you serious? How on earth does taking a couple test shots take any longer than metering each flash, or look less professional?
About 5 minutes in you can see just how simple it is. |
Yes, I'm serious.
There's no way that gives you the control a hand meter does. |
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06/16/2008 04:42:24 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by togtog:
I agree. I was doing a family photoshoot and even for family having to guess and play around is really unacceptable. Double that when there is any sort of time frame weighing down on everyone.
*adds light meter to buy list* sighs... |
So don't guess and play around... do that on your own. When it comes down to game time, know your light and you won't have to take more than 2 test shots to get things dialed. |
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06/16/2008 04:51:11 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yes, I'm serious.
There's no way that gives you the control a hand meter does. |
Chase Jarvis begs to differ... |
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06/16/2008 04:57:33 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yes, I'm serious.
There's no way that gives you the control a hand meter does. |
Chase Jarvis begs to differ... |
So?
Just because you read it on the 'net makes it true?
Just because some guy I've never heard of blogged about it makes it so?
I can write a blog that the moon is made of cheese, does that make it true? |
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06/16/2008 05:04:58 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yes, I'm serious.
There's no way that gives you the control a hand meter does. |
Chase Jarvis begs to differ... |
So?
Just because you read it on the 'net makes it true?
Just because some guy I've never heard of blogged about it makes it so?
I can write a blog that the moon is made of cheese, does that make it true? |
Why don't you flip through his site before you pan him off as a random blogger. Hasselblad doesn't hand out the title of "Master" to any hack with a camera...
Just because someone has a different opinion as you, doesn't mean you have to get all defensive about it. Use your light meter if it works for you. I prefer a different method, and I'm not the only one who thinks that way. I wouldn't recommend someone purchase a light meter; you do. I know what I'll be doing with my money, who cares what someone else does with theirs?
Message edited by author 2008-06-16 17:13:59. |
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