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06/02/2008 08:27:16 AM · #76
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by BeckyT:

I sure thought mine would be in the 6s and not the 5s. Oh well, back to the drawing board.


I can't believe this was my FS entry until the challenge was announced! I decided the score might be harmed submitting a Mask into the FS so switched it to Masks - its sitting at 4.9. Jeez, its a mask in a mask challenge so it must be a 5!


hah tell that to my 4- score
06/02/2008 08:30:37 AM · #77
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Message edited by author 2008-06-02 13:43:40.
06/02/2008 08:35:39 AM · #78
I'm wondering how many people have given me 1's so far-
my subject is a mask, and it -is- being worn

I thought it was nice :( obviously voters don't = probably only taking 3 seconds to look at it
06/02/2008 08:38:26 AM · #79
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

You have rated 89 of 90 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 36 images (40%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 4.6629.

Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


Just had a quick look through the submissions but didn't see 15 shots that were clear DNMC entries.

We're talking about physical masks here, things people put on (or paint on) to hide some or all of their faces. They can be elaborate, even baroque, or they can be simple and clean. Find or create a mask, and photograph someone wearing it this week.
06/02/2008 08:41:06 AM · #80
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06/02/2008 08:41:14 AM · #81
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:


Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


Sorry Wolfie, but our counts don't match, I spotted:
7 - no person
2 - no person but with dog
2 - no mask, but optical effect
1 - person holding, not wearing
1 - Metaphorical mask
6 - no mask, but only make up

13 total potential DNMC's

Oops, forgot to add my "no person" entry.


Edit: sorry about that, got to anal about the person thing, missed the painted on part.

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 08:45:46.
06/02/2008 08:41:44 AM · #82
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

You have rated 89 of 90 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 36 images (40%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 4.6629.

Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


there are a lot of people holding masks and not wearing them out of curiousity are those the ones you're talking about ?

(my entry is wearing a mask-but its in the 4- and still going down towards 3 and if it -does- finish in the 3's I'm going to seriously contemplate quitting)
06/02/2008 08:43:09 AM · #83
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06/02/2008 08:44:24 AM · #84
Originally posted by sherpet:

I checked with site council about this and it does not have to be a mask worn by someone just as long as it is a mask.


*just figured I would BUMP this post since obviously some people DID ask SC
06/02/2008 08:44:54 AM · #85
Originally posted by Love6:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

You have rated 89 of 90 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 36 images (40%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 4.6629.

Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


there are a lot of people holding masks and not wearing them out of curiousity are those the ones you're talking about ?

(my entry is wearing a mask-but its in the 4- and still going down towards 3 and if it -does- finish in the 3's I'm going to seriously contemplate quitting)


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DON'T QUIT!!!!

Embrace your failures and try again. The votes here don't matter. If you like your work and are learning, then keep on keeping on.

I stumbled into a 6.7 ONE TIME... and that shot was taken 5 minutes before the deadline. The ones I plan out never do well for some reason.

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 13:45:41.
06/02/2008 08:47:40 AM · #86
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06/02/2008 08:51:01 AM · #87
Votes: 35
Views: 72
Avg Vote: 5.4857
Comments: 2

I think I am going to take a break from challenges and just focus on side challenges. I am obviously not improving. I know this was advanced editing but I don't like to do a lot of editing to it because I am trying to get better technically without a whole lot of photoshoping. Doesn't seem to be working for me based on my last few challenges. Well I know some people liked it because I had a 6.5 early this morning. Thank you.
06/02/2008 08:58:56 AM · #88
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Love6:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

You have rated 89 of 90 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 36 images (40%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 4.6629.

Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


there are a lot of people holding masks and not wearing them out of curiousity are those the ones you're talking about ?

(my entry is wearing a mask-but its in the 4- and still going down towards 3 and if it -does- finish in the 3's I'm going to seriously contemplate quitting)


Holding is not wearing, so that would be a DNMC based on the challenge text.

DON'T QUIT!!!!

Embrace your failures and try again. The votes here don't matter. If you like your work and are learning, then keep on keeping on.

I stumbled into a 6.7 ONE TIME... and that shot was taken 5 minutes before the deadline. The ones I plan out never do well for some reason.


this image portrays my creativity and I -actually like it a lot- this is a 'failure' i'm not embracing I'm actually -hurt- that its below 4 = tho I guessed as much ealier - other than people just 'not liking it' I don't see how it would be a 4? my subject is wearing a mask =fits challenge as challenge is 'written' -- I don't think people are taking more than a few seconds to look at it = and i'm actually insulted by that - I don't care about my female entry, my freestudy is what it is I understand the comments etc -- but i'm really dissappointed with this score - but as I said if it goes into the 3's I'm going to take some time and seriously contemplate quitting because my idea and DPC's idea of creativity obviously are nowhere in the ballpark of one another ;
06/02/2008 09:10:36 AM · #89
34 votes on my image = 4.x score
53 views = makes me wonder if people hate it so much that they keep comming back to it?
or if there are a lot of ppl just looking/not voting yet
06/02/2008 09:21:58 AM · #90
Originally posted by Love6:

34 votes on my image = 4.x score
53 views = makes me wonder if people hate it so much that they keep comming back to it?
or if there are a lot of ppl just looking/not voting yet


I feel your pain.....

Votes: 33
Views: 58
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0

Sadly, some people that are voting are seriously anal about the challenge. Although my entry meets the challenge criteria (by HawkeyeLonewolf's definition) it continues to drop. Why?? Who knows..... but it's not worth giving up just because some people are that way. And I am in no way saying you are the only person who is anal about the rules Hawkeye but you at least come out and say why you are voting the way you are. Anyway, that's my take on why voting goes south for many.

I, personally, voted at turnover then this morning started taking a second look at how I voted the challenge. Right now I am doing some commenting and will probably be done by the end of the day. But I have lowered some of my votes this morning because I have noticed technical problems I didn't see last night. But of course there are many threads devoted to people and their voting ways....

You have rated 89 of 90 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 37 images (41%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8427
06/02/2008 09:29:26 AM · #91
For the record my model is under the mask and I have met the rules. Technically this is a good shot and should not be doing as bad. I glanced through the photos and they are technically good. There should be know 4s in my opinion. I am not voting this challenge because I don't think I would vote fairly at this point. Good luck to everyone. I am taking a break.
06/02/2008 09:32:48 AM · #92
Originally posted by kleski:

Originally posted by Love6:

34 votes on my image = 4.x score
53 views = makes me wonder if people hate it so much that they keep comming back to it?
or if there are a lot of ppl just looking/not voting yet


I feel your pain.....

Votes: 33
Views: 58
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0

Sadly, some people that are voting are seriously anal about the challenge. Although my entry meets the challenge criteria (by HawkeyeLonewolf's definition) it continues to drop. Why?? Who knows..... but it's not worth giving up just because some people are that way. And I am in no way saying you are the only person who is anal about the rules Hawkeye but you at least come out and say why you are voting the way you are. Anyway, that's my take on why voting goes south for many.

I, personally, voted at turnover then this morning started taking a second look at how I voted the challenge. Right now I am doing some commenting and will probably be done by the end of the day. But I have lowered some of my votes this morning because I have noticed technical problems I didn't see last night. But of course there are many threads devoted to people and their voting ways....

You have rated 89 of 90 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 37 images (41%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8427


If sticking to the rules is "anal", then I am an ass. (of course I've been called that for many other reasons too) :)
06/02/2008 10:36:27 AM · #93
i feel a bit confused. are any of you considering painted on masks dnmc? if so, why. doesn't it state in the challenge description that painted on masks are indeed masks?
06/02/2008 10:39:57 AM · #94
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

i feel a bit confused. are any of you considering painted on masks dnmc? if so, why. doesn't it state in the challenge description that painted on masks are indeed masks?


This is the sentence of the challenge description that addresses that:

We're talking about physical masks here, things people put on (or paint on) to hide some or all of their faces.
06/02/2008 10:45:39 AM · #95
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Jammur:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:


Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


Sorry Wolfie, but our counts don't match, I spotted:
7 - no person
2 - no person but with dog
2 - no mask, but optical effect
1 - person holding, not wearing
1 - Metaphorical mask
6 - no mask, but only make up

19 total potential DNMC's

Oops, forgot to add my "no person" entry.



why do you consider these DNMC? Sherpet says very near the beginning of this thread that the Site Council determined that just having a mask in the image would be sufficient.

Why not be creative in your interpretation, as so many of the photographers were in this challenge, rather than just narrowly following a limited view of what the challenge states?

Dave
06/02/2008 10:53:43 AM · #96
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

i feel a bit confused. are any of you considering painted on masks dnmc? if so, why. doesn't it state in the challenge description that painted on masks are indeed masks?


I'm not.
06/02/2008 10:58:35 AM · #97
Originally posted by masks Challenge Description:

We're talking about physical masks here, things people put on (or paint on) to hide some or all of their faces. They can be elaborate, even baroque, or they can be simple and clean. Find or create a mask, and photograph someone wearing it this week.


i saw no DNMCs

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 10:59:17.
06/02/2008 10:58:58 AM · #98
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

If sticking to the rules is "anal", then I am an ass.

Meeting the challenge topic is not a rule, however keeping an open mind to other interpretations IS.
06/02/2008 11:00:47 AM · #99
If you are seeing 19 out 90 images as DNMC? You may want to expand your point of view on what does meet the challenge...

That aside, why do people read challenge descriptions like they are legally binding agreements? They are guidelines. This challenge said that the mask had to be worn. If I put the thing on my butt and then "smile and say cheese" I am still wearing it. The challenge description never said it had to be worn by a person. It said masks are worn to cover the face. Dogs have faces.

That doesn't mean there isn't any DNMC entries and a lot of the ones pointed out I can see a case for. I just think that if you are going through and seeing yourself calling a lot of shots DNMC then you should take a moment to double check your perceptions and see if you can expand your interpretation.
06/02/2008 11:00:58 AM · #100
Originally posted by dsa157:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Jammur:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:


Unfortunately, there were 15 clear DNMC in this one... so they obviously all received 1s. Some VERY VERY good photos in that lot too, but the challenge is the challenge.


Sorry Wolfie, but our counts don't match, I spotted:
7 - no person
2 - no person but with dog
2 - no mask, but optical effect
1 - person holding, not wearing
1 - Metaphorical mask
6 - no mask, but only make up

19 total potential DNMC's

Oops, forgot to add my "no person" entry.



why do you consider these DNMC? Sherpet says very near the beginning of this thread that the Site Council determined that just having a mask in the image would be sufficient.

Why not be creative in your interpretation, as so many of the photographers were in this challenge, rather than just narrowly following a limited view of what the challenge states?

Dave


In the DNMC peoples favor it does say that they shoud be wearing it but I'm still not happy about my DNMC comments.... I just got a couple 1's for not truely wearing my mask.... In my original entry I was wearing the mask but switched at the last minute because I liked a different pose and damn if it didn't backfire. I was at a 6.2 until the DNMC police came to town.... now at a 4.8
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