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05/30/2008 05:26:44 AM · #1 |
I currently have a submission in the boats challenge, and have had a couple of comments saying sort of "is it a boat?" etc.
I have put what it is in the title, if you are unsure people, google it.
It was similar for this one:
"i wouldnt consider this a camera" (sorry photoqueen not picking on you)
It's obvious to me and many others that it is a camera, who doesn't know what a CCTV/security camera looks like?
Should I start to make my challenge entries blatantly obvious? |
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05/30/2008 05:43:27 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by rob_smith:
Should I start to make my challenge entries blatantly obvious? |
Yes, if you don't want to hear comments like that from a pretty small minority. If you put too much explanation into the title, some people will get annoyed at that (like me) and might ding you a point.
It is what it is - enter what makes you happy and let the chips fall... :) |
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05/30/2008 05:44:31 AM · #3 |
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
H.L Mencken
Message edited by author 2008-05-30 05:49:01.
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05/30/2008 07:08:00 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Jammur:
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
H.L Mencken |
This would be hilarious if it weren't so true. In the 'movie title' challenge I Googled up a movie database and used it a lot. I'm not much for movies. You just have to accept the more obscure the reference, the more people won't 'get it'.
Message edited by author 2008-05-30 07:09:43.
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05/30/2008 07:41:59 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by rob_smith:
I currently have a submission in the boats challenge, and have had a couple of comments saying sort of "is it a boat?" etc.
I have put what it is in the title, if you are unsure people, google it.
It was similar for this one:
"i wouldnt consider this a camera" (sorry photoqueen not picking on you)
It's obvious to me and many others that it is a camera, who doesn't know what a CCTV/security camera looks like?
Should I start to make my challenge entries blatantly obvious? |
hehe - She said the same thing about mine:
 , though she edited the comment after the challenge was over and I'd sent her email.
The challenge clearly said ANY CAMERA and as you can see, this is a VIDEO CAMERA. Scored ok, placed poorly, but that's ok.
I thought you image was actually clever and met the challenge.
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05/30/2008 08:22:52 AM · #6 |
"The account has been cancelled"
seems fishy to me... |
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05/30/2008 08:30:05 AM · #7 |
They both look like cameras to me...
Originally posted by rob_smith:
"The account has been cancelled"
seems fishy to me... |
She got banned a few days back, but I don't know why. I was unaware of any fuss going on. |
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05/30/2008 08:42:55 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
"The account has been cancelled"
seems fishy to me... |
She got banned a few days back, but I don't know why. I was unaware of any fuss going on. |
A formerly banned nutcase who tried to get back in under another name.
Message edited by author 2008-05-30 08:43:50. |
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05/30/2008 08:48:23 AM · #9 |
Well, technically it may be a "camera", but c'mon...this is a photography site, what did you expect? I for one, anticipated regular cameras, you know the kind used for photography; not movies or videos.
If you do decide to go outside the anticipated box, then the image needs to be unique and interesting, not a snapshot-ish type of image. During voting I gave this a generous 4.
All JMO of course. :-)
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05/30/2008 08:49:56 AM · #10 |
Video cameras and security cameras are regular cameras - they are used all over the world to capture images.
Expand your mind, my friend...
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Well, technically it may be a "camera", but c'mon...this is a photography site, what did you expect? I for one, anticipated regular cameras, you know the kind used for photography; not movies or videos.
If you do decide to go outside the anticipated box, then the image needs to be unique and interesting, not a snapshot-ish type of image. During voting I gave this a generous 4.
All JMO of course. :-) |
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05/30/2008 09:04:11 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by bassbone:
Video cameras and security cameras are regular cameras - they are used all over the world to capture images.
Expand your mind, my friend... |
True, but what do you think of (or most people anyway), when someone asks the question - "Do you have a camera?", or "What kind of camera do you shoot with?". The large majority are going to think of a 35mm or digital camera used to take photographs. And again...this is a photography site, so that first response to "camera" is going to be even stronger.
I was mostly responding to the OP's surprise/disdain at the challenge entry perhaps not being rec'd so well... |
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05/30/2008 09:19:14 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by bassbone:
Video cameras and security cameras are regular cameras - they are used all over the world to capture images.
Expand your mind, my friend... |
True, but what do you think of (or most people anyway), when someone asks the question - "Do you have a camera?", or "What kind of camera do you shoot with?". The large majority are going to think of a 35mm or digital camera used to take photographs. And again...this is a photography site, so that first response to "camera" is going to be even stronger.
I was mostly responding to the OP's surprise/disdain at the challenge entry perhaps not being rec'd so well... |
The entry did fine thanks, I wasn't moaning about the score.
"Make a camera (any camera) the subject of your photograph."
My shot is sooooo meets challenge it hurts, so when you ask, "what did you expect"? I expect general common sense and a modicum of intelligence... |
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05/30/2008 09:29:51 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by rob_smith:
... My shot is sooooo meets challenge it hurts, so when you ask, "what did you expect"? I expect general common sense and a modicum of intelligence... |
Ahhh...but you forgot about the simple view, quick challenge interpretation, and fast voters. :-) |
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05/30/2008 09:35:33 AM · #14 |
| I can't believe the narrow mindedness some people suffer from. It says in the description, any camera, fairly simple to understand. Some nitpickers nitpick just for the sake of nitpicking. ;\ |
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05/30/2008 09:45:10 AM · #15 |
yea, definitely narrow minded is not for photography. all narrow minded people should sell their cameras and leave DPC immediately 
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05/30/2008 09:46:11 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I was mostly responding to the OP's surprise/disdain at the challenge entry perhaps not being rec'd so well... |
Fair enough! I agree with your assessment in that context and agree that we need to remember that everyone comes into challenges (and voting) with a very different perspective. The "Expand Your Mind" comment was more for the general audience and not a specific slight at you. Cheers! |
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05/30/2008 10:01:21 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Well, technically it may be a "camera", but c'mon...this is a photography site, what did you expect? I for one, anticipated regular cameras, you know the kind used for photography; not movies or videos.
If you do decide to go outside the anticipated box, then the image needs to be unique and interesting, not a snapshot-ish type of image. During voting I gave this a generous 4.
All JMO of course. :-) |
Not sure if you're addressing mine, but it was not a "snapshot" type image, but a planned shot. Sorry I couldn't get the soldier into the studio to appease one voter.
Incidentally, your narrow-minded view of the topic is your business, but for the record, this video camera actually DOES take still shots as well. Lines are blurred nowaways my friend, with video taking pictures, cameras taking video and cellphones doing both.
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05/30/2008 10:15:32 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Not sure if you're addressing mine, but it was not a "snapshot" type image, but a planned shot. Sorry I couldn't get the soldier into the studio to appease one voter.
Incidentally, your narrow-minded view of the topic is your business, but for the record, this video camera actually DOES take still shots as well. Lines are blurred nowaways my friend, with video taking pictures, cameras taking video and cellphones doing both. |
I'm quite aware of this (video still captures) as I have a decent Sony digital video camera that has capture capability (uses an SD card for stills). I still don't think of a video camera as a "camera" in the general sense, especially here on a photography website. Again, JMO.
As for "addressing" your challenge entry as a "snapshot" - no I was not. I had only looked at it once while voting, (twice now in preparing this response), and I gave it a 5.
I do find it interesting in your comments (of challenge entry) that you half-expected some DNMC opinions. In that, I'll applaud you for standing by your convictions and submitting the photo anyway.
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf challenge entry Photographer's Comments:
Not sure how this one will do. The theme says ANY CAMERA, so a video camera should qualify. But who knows how many will claim DNMC. I will be happy with a 5.5 or higher, but these can go either way depending on the mood of the voter. ... |
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05/30/2008 10:21:38 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Not sure if you're addressing mine, but it was not a "snapshot" type image, but a planned shot. Sorry I couldn't get the soldier into the studio to appease one voter.
Incidentally, your narrow-minded view of the topic is your business, but for the record, this video camera actually DOES take still shots as well. Lines are blurred nowaways my friend, with video taking pictures, cameras taking video and cellphones doing both. |
I'm quite aware of this (video still captures) as I have a decent Sony digital video camera that has capture capability (uses an SD card for stills). I still don't think of a video camera as a "camera" in the general sense, especially here on a photography website. Again, JMO.
As for "addressing" your challenge entry as a "snapshot" - no I was not. I had only looked at it once while voting, (twice now in preparing this response), and I gave it a 5.
I do find it interesting in your comments (of challenge entry) that you half-expected some DNMC opinions. In that, I'll applaud you for standing by your convictions and submitting the photo anyway.
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf challenge entry Photographer's Comments:
Not sure how this one will do. The theme says ANY CAMERA, so a video camera should qualify. But who knows how many will claim DNMC. I will be happy with a 5.5 or higher, but these can go either way depending on the mood of the voter. ... |
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Ok... GROUP HUG!
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05/30/2008 10:55:38 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by yospiff:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
"The account has been cancelled"
seems fishy to me... |
She got banned a few days back, but I don't know why. I was unaware of any fuss going on. |
A formerly banned nutcase who tried to get back in under another name. |
Was this this infamous ROSE?? Gasp! (She was before my time.
To stay on topic...camera can be any camera IMO, but...the shot still has to have appeal and be interesting. Having said that...my first "thought" when hearing camera is still photography but interesting or clever shots of other types of cameras could score will if done in an interesting way. |
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05/30/2008 12:18:21 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by yospiff:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
"The account has been cancelled"
seems fishy to me... |
She got banned a few days back, but I don't know why. I was unaware of any fuss going on. |
A formerly banned nutcase who tried to get back in under another name. |
Was this this infamous ROSE?? Gasp! (She was before my time.
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That was my first thought. |
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05/30/2008 04:17:11 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Was this this infamous ROSE?? Gasp! (She was before my time.
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That was my first thought. |
Ahem. She is referred to around here as "Shewho" meaning She whose name we shall not mention. Her name has been removed from all the history books and scratched off the walls of the pyramids. In a thousand years there will be a faint whisper of rumors of her existence and the story will by then include the idea that she had snakes for hair. |
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05/30/2008 04:57:37 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
In a thousand years there will be a faint whisper of rumors of her existence and the story will by then include the idea that she had snakes for hair. |
AND. She'll still be trying new usernames on DPC.
Because, ya know, being undead and all, she's immortal.
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05/30/2008 05:04:33 PM · #24 |
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05/30/2008 05:09:39 PM · #25 |
It was NOT RoseShewho, believe it or not. :)
Message edited by author 2008-05-30 17:09:54. |
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