Photoshop CS - DPChallenge Forums

11/04/2003 09:14:55 AM · #1

Well, I just got my hands on CS (8.0)!

There are a lot of new built in features that are going to take some fiddling to figure out what they do. I haven't had a chance to shoot since I got it.

Has anyone had an opportunity to shoot in RAW mode and import to try the built in noise reduction?
I can't believe they didn't make that a standard feature and it's only available for RAW imports.

Or am I wrong and I just haven't found how to use it for jpgs?

The one option I have had a chance to try is the new "photomerge" automation. Wow,, it's quick, easy and does an excellent job. If your looking to make basic panorama's it's the ticket.

I haven't tried to use it for more "creative" compositions.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

11/04/2003 10:40:35 AM · #2

This is 5 shots of a kinetic sculpture. They have been combined using photomerge.
Looks like an option for those of us with out the option to do multiple exposures in camera.

I didn't do much to "fix" the image, just a test subject.

Message edited by author 2003-11-04 10:40:46.

BobsterLobster

Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro

11/04/2003 10:45:23 AM · #3

I would be VERY interested to know if this is going to be DPC-legal. Perhaps with the advent of Photoshop CS, it's time for a shake-up of the rules?!

11/04/2003 11:00:26 AM · #4

I agree,, there are a lot of new adjustment tools included in this edition.

After more people have had a chance to work w/ it, we may need to have the site council review some of the new options.

They are very much about whole image correction and not spot editing or transformation filters.

Will be intersting to see how this progresses as the technology does.

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

11/04/2003 11:13:04 AM · #5

JC, have you used the photostitch software that came with your G3? if so, can you speak to how it differs from the photomerge feature of PS CS?

cheers,

darcy

coolhar

11/04/2003 11:59:21 AM · #6

Why should the combining of five shots be legal for challenges?
What would be gained if it were?

BobsterLobster

Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

11/04/2003 12:23:33 PM · #7

Originally posted by coolhar:

Why should the combining of five shots be legal for challenges?
What would be gained if it were?

Well, let's look at 2 recent ribbon winners:

and

These shots would then be possible for all members, rather than a small minority.

joannadiva

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

11/04/2003 01:02:56 PM · #8

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Originally posted by coolhar:
Why should the combining of five shots be legal for challenges?
What would be gained if it were?

Well, let's look at 2 recent ribbon winners:

and

These shots would then be possible for all members, rather than a small minority.

Not all members. Only the ones who have CS.......
and what's the price tag on that going to be????

Better to invest in a better cam

Message edited by author 2003-11-04 13:03:54.

muckpond

Nikon D200

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

11/04/2003 01:17:46 PM · #9

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

These effects were done using long shutter times, not double exposures.

Besides, only a "small minority" are going to have access to Photoshop CS.

Kai's PhotoSoap and other tools have been out for years, but we've never changed the rules to meet any of those tools. If we can't do simple things like Dodge and Burn, I think something like Photomerge would be totally out of the question.

Message edited by author 2003-11-04 13:19:01.

11/04/2003 03:02:48 PM · #10

is done with the PS photomerge

is the canon photostitch in camera and proprietary software.

the canon one, is fast and easy to use for images right out of the camera.

the PS one, is also easy to use, has more options and is all done in one program.

I personally prefer the new PS one.

I did this hand held without a tripod, so the first two images are a bit off.. (this is my back garden)

Message edited by author 2003-11-04 15:03:34.

11/04/2003 03:08:48 PM · #11

Originally posted by muckpond
These shots would then be possible for all members, rather than a small minority.[/quote:

These effects were done using long shutter times, not double exposures.

Besides, only a "small minority" are going to have access to Photoshop CS.

.

Right, we know that, and that is the point. Those w/ expensive cameras can hold long shutters. Those with out cannot. By being able to combine to images you can create the same effect.

You don't need photomerge to do that, it only makes it easier and more seamless.

I can take PS and create two layers one that is only say, 40% opaque and layer it on one that is 100% and that will acomplish the same thing.

This software addition takes most of the tedium of it and makes for very exact placement.

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

11/04/2003 03:09:36 PM · #12

wow, the ps one is way better looking - it didn't curve like the canon one on the left side. can't wait to get mine!

thanks for the demo, jc!

darcy

coolhar

11/04/2003 03:27:59 PM · #13

There's one born every minute.

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100VI

11/04/2003 04:03:42 PM · #14

A few months ago I got a good deal on a Graphire 2 and it had Elements 2 with it (in addition to PS6 that I already have).

If the Photomerge of Elements is the same as the one in CS, I would be disappointed. The Elements Photomerge makes way too many mistakes. From 15 attempts I only got one good merge.
Any idea if it is better, does it offer more control in CS?

I found a workaround for the shadow thingie. As I already have the Fred Miranda DRI action (blens two exposures for more dynamic range) I can create, with a pic exposed for highlights, a new layer from a set of layers in screen mode and blend them automatically to get simular results. (At luminous landscape there is also a tutorial about a different way).

vadvirag

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/04/2003 04:09:26 PM · #15

Has anybody tried Panorama Factory? What are the experiences?

Yomi

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

11/04/2003 04:14:24 PM · #16

I want Photoshop CS, but I don't have the money :(

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

11/04/2003 04:48:53 PM · #17

Here's another new photo-editing program.
Photo Lab 1.0
Think we should change the rules for this one?
Guess not, it only costs $39.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

11/04/2003 05:01:59 PM · #18

attitudes aside, photoshop is the industry standard, not just one of many photo editing applications out there vying for a piece of your paycheck. when photoshop changes, the industry changes, usually for the better. if it goes for the worse, then photoshop stands to lose its position as the industry standard and the industry shifts its weight and moves on. but as it is right now, its the standard - not because it says we have to like it, but because we say we like it, because its that good.

terms like "industry standard" and collective "we's" are not my normal jive, but i'm only facing the facts here. i don't think that something like the photomerge feature should be allowed into DPC country just because its suddenly a feature in photoshop, but some of the new features should at least require the council to review the rules and determine of some of what's new will be granted entry.

cheers,

darcy

Brent_Ward

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L USM

11/04/2003 05:24:48 PM · #19

Spot editing would be nice, I might even enter a challenge... ;D

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

11/04/2003 07:29:57 PM · #20

O yeah! My CS Upgrade showed up today & I'm up & running. Now I'll NEVER sleep!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

11/04/2003 07:42:08 PM · #21

Does that CS stand for yet another Color Space change?

It is a big pain when the "industry standard" ups and changes the standards ... I'm still happy enough with PS 5.x and have yet to come across a compelling enough reason to change ...