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05/16/2008 09:44:09 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And a lot of that is Catholic, not Christian. However again, if the action goes against the teachings of Christianity, then no matter who does it, it's not "Christian". Pretty much common sense there. |
Ah, now I see the error in my thinking, I thought Catholics were Christians.
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05/16/2008 09:48:21 AM · #27 |
Since you asked HawkeyeLonewolf.
Here's a list:
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
I have a book full. |
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05/16/2008 09:49:15 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by Jammur:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And a lot of that is Catholic, not Christian. However again, if the action goes against the teachings of Christianity, then no matter who does it, it's not "Christian". Pretty much common sense there. |
Ah, now I see the error in my thinking, I thought Catholics were Christians. |
Don't know about Catholics (the adherents), but the teachings of the RCC are patently non-Christian. But that's been discussed before. No sense derailing this thread.
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05/16/2008 09:49:44 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Jammur:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And a lot of that is Catholic, not Christian. However again, if the action goes against the teachings of Christianity, then no matter who does it, it's not "Christian". Pretty much common sense there. |
Ah, now I see the error in my thinking, I thought Catholics were Christians. |
You must have missed earlier rants where some people claimed that Catholics are literally not Christian (the current Pope has made the reverse claim of Protestants). |
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05/16/2008 09:50:01 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Since you asked HawkeyeLonewolf.
Here's a list:
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
I have a book full. |
Show me in the teachings of Christ, as requested.
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05/16/2008 09:51:14 AM · #31 |
the irony here, of course, is that keegbow just started another religious threat
:)
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05/16/2008 09:52:15 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
In my 3+ years at DPC I've only noticed rare religious threads until recently. Now there's quite a glut of them. It seems like a mini religiuos revival is happening, and many people want to jump on the Jesus-Wagon and toot their horn. Or just toot their Jesus-horn if they've always been on the wagon.
I watch the reality TV show "Big Brother", as a thermometer of the USA, so I might have a little warning before Canada is invaded and I can stock up on decent beer. There's usually only one Jesus-Praiser per season, but this last season there was an entire alliance calling themselves "Team Jesus". I'm wondering what's going on with the USA.
A couple of possible reasons for the phenomenon:
- The falling American dollar and recession leading to an impending sense of doom.
- Economic stimulus cheques from the government.
- The upcoming presidential election.
- Global warming.
- Kick-backs from priests/ministers for recruitment.
- Fear of seeing Islam become a powerful religion in the US. (Thanks  Jac) |
No need to worry about the beer, if the US invades Canada, it'll basically be one giant beer run.
Similar to how the war in Iraq is "war for oil", the war in Canada will be "war for beer".
As for the reasons behind this outbreak of proselytizing in the US, I think it's mostly because all of the neo-con Jesus freaks are afraid of what will happen when one of them is no longer president.
Message edited by author 2008-05-16 09:55:55. |
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05/16/2008 09:52:57 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Christianity IS peaceful. Show me anywhere where the teachings of Christ suggest otherwise. |
Luke 14:26 "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
Love,
JC |
That simple means, you love Christ more than even them or yourself. Regardless, even if it meant "hate" as you mistakening think it does, then that's not unpeaceful.
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05/16/2008 09:53:44 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Jammur:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And a lot of that is Catholic, not Christian. However again, if the action goes against the teachings of Christianity, then no matter who does it, it's not "Christian". Pretty much common sense there. |
Ah, now I see the error in my thinking, I thought Catholics were Christians. |
You must have missed earlier rants where some people claimed that Catholics are literally not Christian (the current Pope has made the reverse claim of Protestants). |
Sorry, been away for a while. |
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05/16/2008 09:53:56 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Similar to how the war in Iraq is "war for oil", the war in Canada will be "war for beer". |
Except the liberation of Iraq is not about oil... Hmmm... Liberal Kool-Aid taste good?
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05/16/2008 09:55:02 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Jammur:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And a lot of that is Catholic, not Christian. However again, if the action goes against the teachings of Christianity, then no matter who does it, it's not "Christian". Pretty much common sense there. |
Ah, now I see the error in my thinking, I thought Catholics were Christians. |
You must have missed earlier rants where some people claimed that Catholics are literally not Christian (the current Pope has made the reverse claim of Protestants). |
Again, you misquote.
I've seen no one claim Catholics are not Christians. Just that the RCC is not Christianity.
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05/16/2008 09:57:18 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Except the liberation of Iraq is not about oil... Hmmm... Liberal Kool-Aid taste good? |
Thank goodness, we are moving away from religion and can talk about something less controversial, like politics. |
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05/16/2008 09:57:22 AM · #38 |
| I bestow upon this thread the title of "Most Ironic DPC Thread of All Time". |
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05/16/2008 09:57:43 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Similar to how the war in Iraq is "war for oil", the war in Canada will be "war for beer". |
Except the liberation of Iraq is not about oil... Hmmm... Liberal Kool-Aid taste good? |
Way to toe the company line there. 50 Jesus points to the Hawk! |
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05/16/2008 10:04:04 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Luke 14:26 "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." |
...even if it meant "hate" as you mistakening think it does, then that's not unpeaceful. |
Silly me for thinking hate means hate. I'm sure the humble carpenter meant to say "love me more than everyone else," but Luke accidentally misquoted what he wasn't around to hear decades earlier. Ah, but as you point out, there's nothing unpeaceful about preaching hate. :-/
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
I've seen no one claim Catholics are not Christians. Just that the RCC is not Christianity. |
You have an uncanny knack for contradiction.
Message edited by author 2008-05-16 10:09:13. |
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05/16/2008 10:15:58 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Jac:
Since you asked HawkeyeLonewolf.
Here's a list:
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
I have a book full. |
Show me in the teachings of Christ, as requested. |
My error. |
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05/16/2008 10:19:48 AM · #42 |
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05/16/2008 10:25:22 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Show me in the teachings of Christ, as requested. |
This seems to imply that you believe the teachings of Christ are distinct from the rest of the bible. Yet don't you give equal weight to old testament teachings? Don't you believe that the entire bible is inerrant? |
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05/16/2008 10:44:15 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Yeah, something about the "Religion of Peace*" just scares the heck out of thinking, rational people.
* = Peace being defined as killing anyone who disagrees with you. Wipe out the competition, you win every game by default. |
I take it you are referring to the Crusades? Or perhaps Spanish settlement of California? |
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05/16/2008 10:50:03 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Yeah, something about the "Religion of Peace*" just scares the heck out of thinking, rational people.
* = Peace being defined as killing anyone who disagrees with you. Wipe out the competition, you win every game by default. |
I take it you are referring to the Crusades? Or perhaps Spanish settlement of California? |
Sorry E, you can't blame the Crusades on the Christians, that was those misguided Catholics again.
(see above) |
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05/16/2008 11:13:15 AM · #46 |
You know, there are other religious theads, and unfortunately this seems to have become exactly what the OP was complaining about.
Back on topic, or redirect to another thread? |
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05/16/2008 11:13:49 AM · #47 |
I'm going to put an end to all this crap once and for all!
God Faq |
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05/16/2008 11:14:44 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Louis:
I bestow upon this thread the title of "Most Ironic DPC Thread of All Time". |
I second that! |
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05/16/2008 11:32:11 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Jammur:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And a lot of that is Catholic, not Christian. However again, if the action goes against the teachings of Christianity, then no matter who does it, it's not "Christian". Pretty much common sense there. |
Ah, now I see the error in my thinking, I thought Catholics were Christians. |
Don't know about Catholics (the adherents), but the teachings of the RCC are patently non-Christian. But that's been discussed before. No sense derailing this thread. |
So we just accept that Roman Catholics are not Christains because you say so? OK, good, now we can move on.
You obviously know nothing of the Catholic church. |
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05/16/2008 11:54:33 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
So we just accept that Roman Catholics are not Christains because you say so? OK, good, now we can move on.
You obviously know nothing of the Catholic church. |
This idea (Catholics not being "true Christians") is anything but new; it certainly isn't something Hawkeye dredged up out of nowhere. The entire Reformation, the creation of the Protestant church (Protestant = "protesters" basically) springs from this idea.
The core problem is this, from the Commandments:
You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God...
There are those who say, not without some justification IMO, that the Catholic church (and especially the Catholic church of the Middle Ages) is infused with idolatry, and they would point especially to the "cult" (their word, not mine) of Marianism in particular and of "worship" of saints in general to make their point.
Personally I wouldn't go so far as to say these things make Catholics "non-Christian", but I don't think the pomp and ceremony, the lavish earthly trappings, of the Catholic hierarchy, are exactly what Jesus would have chosen as the true representation of Himself and His message...
R.
Message edited by author 2008-05-16 11:54:51. |
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