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Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

04/26/2008 01:27:53 PM · #1

I just got back from Vegas and the MGM is building this thing called the City Center. It makes the rest of the strip look tiny. It is absolutely huge. All I know is that the buildings (60 stories) tower over all of the others on the strip, and the thing looks like about 20,000 people could live there.

//www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/citycenter.htm

kandykarml

Nikon D80

04/26/2008 01:33:03 PM · #2

I've heard of this place... I think a ton of movie stars and famous people have already bought there.. It's suppose to be incredible when completed, and very very very expensive to live there.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

04/26/2008 01:39:41 PM · #3

I was in Vegas early this month, and I have to say, the place is mammoth. Each new thing in Vegas has to be bigger and glitzier than the one before!

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

04/26/2008 01:53:49 PM · #4

I wish that a photo could do it justice, but it can't. When you stand there and look at it you realize that you could fit about 6 Cesars Palaces in the lot that it is on, and on top of that each of the buildings is 2-3 times taller than the rest of the strip. 8.5 billion!

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

04/26/2008 02:26:55 PM · #5

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I wish that a photo could do it justice, but it can't...

So true. We stood out on the top of the Rio, 50 stories up, and looked *up* at the still-unfinished towers (!)
I just dwarfs everything else, not only with the sheer height, but overall size.

jhess77

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/26/2008 02:56:42 PM · #6

I grew up in Vegas. Each time I go home to visit my brother I am shocked how much bigger things are getting in Vegas. The City Center does leave huge impression driving by it. All the old big casinos look small! Its funny, way back in the 90s, places like the Excalibur and then the MGM were consider huge. Just hope they have a enough water for the City Center...

soup

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/26/2008 03:43:28 PM · #7

that was my first thought...

Originally posted by jhess77:

Just hope they have a enough water for the City Center...

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/26/2008 05:52:54 PM · #8

Supposedly it has its own power plant, I wonder if it has its own water treatment plant as well?

soup

Canon EOS-30D

04/26/2008 08:43:05 PM · #9

where is the water they might be able to treat going to come from ?

i'm tired of *hiter water...

Message edited by author 2008-04-26 20:43:55.

gwe21

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6G ED

04/26/2008 11:23:28 PM · #10

Originally posted by soup:

where is the water they might be able to treat going to come from ?

i'm tired of *hiter water...

since they are LEED certified, they most likely will have a rain catching device (i am not sure how much it rains in LV though???). there is a building here in LR, The Heiffer Building, which is almost all green, they catch rain water and recycle it.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

04/26/2008 11:47:40 PM · #11

Originally posted by gwe21:

Originally posted by soup:
where is the water they might be able to treat going to come from ?

i'm tired of *hiter water...

since they are LEED certified, they most likely will have a rain catching device (i am not sure how much it rains in LV though???). there is a building here in LR, The Heiffer Building, which is almost all green, they catch rain water and recycle it.

Pretty much 100% of LV water demand is supplied by the Colorado river, which also has to take care of Arizona and Southern California. It's seriously over-stressed even now, and that's only going to get worse unless evolving climate patterns reverse themselves and start bringing back the snowpack in the Rockies to its former levels, which seems unlikely in the immediate future.

The whole American Southwest is a disaster just waiting to happen. Our behavior in the last 50 years or so has been perfectly insane.

R.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/27/2008 02:28:16 AM · #12

Colorado is supposed to have flood problems this summer, so that might help out. We have huge amounts of snow this year, far above normal.

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

04/27/2008 10:21:41 AM · #13

Areas of the Rocky Mountains range from 140% to over 200% of average snow pack this year. And we got hit again just this week. (one day it's spring and 70 degrees outside and the next it is snowing)

Can't guarantee that will keep up. But it's hard to see numbers like these and think the sky is falling on climate change.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/27/2008 11:42:04 AM · #14

so one season of snow is going to resolve the water issue - for how long ?

endless sprawl and minimal consideration of the consenquences of drying up the colorado river... thankfully the housing market is shot - or at least slowing...

then there's the south east.

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Colorado is supposed to have flood problems this summer, so that might help out. We have huge amounts of snow this year, far above normal.

vxpra

Pentax K100D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/27/2008 12:07:28 PM · #15

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Colorado is supposed to have flood problems this summer, so that might help out. We have huge amounts of snow this year, far above normal.

Unfortunately, when they refer to normal that is a ten year "normal". If you look at weather patterns from the 60â��s and 70â��s the snow pack this year is far below what Colorado used to receive. The mountains surrounding Silverton this year, as an example, received about 350 inches of total snowfall. Thirty years ago that would be considered nearly a drought condition, as they would receive 500 inches as a â��normal.â�� What is really stupid, if you read the government reports covering water and the sustainability of communities such as Phoenix, Tucson and Los Angeles and how water isnâ��t an issue given historic snow packs in the mountains they quote averages from the 60â��s and 70â��s.

I remember growing up on the eastern plains of Colorado (I now live in the SW mountains of Colorado) and every year the Platte river would flow over its banks and spread out across the fields often widening to over a mile across- that was normal. A few of my friends that still live in the area talk about how they haven't seen that since the 80's.

Message edited by author 2008-04-27 12:08:01.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/27/2008 12:09:26 PM · #16

There are always patterns of drought, and Colorado is pulling out of one. We have had too much snow for the past couple years, but the few before that everybody was sure that we were going to dry up and have to move.

My bet is that Vegas will some how pipe water in from Mexico if they have to. They have so much money involved that a water shortage isn't going to slow them down. They need to sell those $20 drinks and $200 show tickets.

vxpra

Pentax K100D

04/27/2008 12:14:24 PM · #17

I agree Colorado is in the 15th year of its 10 year drought cycle.

see

Canon PowerShot S95

04/27/2008 12:43:50 PM · #18

Of course Vegas has the perfect answer to any water shortage.
[thumb]673302[/thumb]
LOL

MikeJ

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/27/2008 01:55:23 PM · #19

Nevada will probably try to buy the Columbia River (they can probably afford it too) and have it re-channeled so it flows South rather than West. That would be cheaper and actually easier than getting water from Mexico. Of course California might get upset since they have been talking about taking the outflow of the Columbia and piping it down the coast line in giant pipes so they can use the water.

Mike

jhess77

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/27/2008 02:19:34 PM · #20

Lake Mead is looking very low. I remember flying over the last couple of times and looking at places that I use to camp with my family that were "beach front". Now the water is way down. My dad worked with the state of Nevada for years on water issues. The state and mostly Las Vegas has not listened too well. Growing up, there was a housing development called "The Lakes" on the west side of the city. Big man made lakes in Las Vegas! Now that is some good use for desert water! The big casinos aren't helping by putting in huge fountains....outside in the heat.

04/27/2008 05:52:13 PM · #21

Originally posted by alans_world:

Of course Vegas has the perfect answer to any water shortage.
[thumb]673302[/thumb]
LOL

A few beer toilets, and we have it. I think you are on to something there.

04/27/2008 05:53:45 PM · #22

Originally posted by vxpra:

I agree Colorado is in the 15th year of its 10 year drought cycle.

We will have floods if the weather warms up this year. Then everybody will complain about having too much water. Last year the Western Slope was flooding because of the run off.