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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/09/2008 07:12:22 AM · #1

I have an online friend that has asked me to do something that is way out of my expertise level...not way out but it is definately an unusual case for me. my friends name is karen and HE wants me to do some photos of him in a wedding gown. he is married to a woman(unsupportive in this "hobby" of his) and they have 3 beautiful kids (who dont know daddys "hobby") He would like a "groom" there for the shoot and wants the whole photoshoot to look like a real wedding, complete with a church BG. He wants portrait poses that will accent the femine (sp?) side and really make him look like a woman.He likes my "style" and there isnt a photographer in his area that he feels comfy enough with to ask if they would do this and the ones he has asked have turned him down flat! he has no problem making this look like the real thing complete with kissing the groom. he dresses up as karen about once a week and the only photo i have seen of him was during a mock prom in his living room with photos taken by his mother.in that photo he has quite a girlie look to him.

so my questions to you are:
would you have a problem doing this?

what would be some real good feminine wedding poses both just for him and for the "newlywed" photos? (post example photos please)

Where do you suggest finding a male willing to do a photoshoot like this?

Message edited by author 2008-04-09 07:14:51.

Simms

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

04/09/2008 07:18:21 AM · #2

Possibly the best post this year... fantastic. keep us updated.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

04/09/2008 07:56:28 AM · #3

Originally posted by Simms:

Possibly the best post this year... fantastic. keep us updated.

Yeah, if you like losing your lunch.

Good luck with the photoshoot.

pamelasue

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/09/2008 08:38:50 AM · #4

Too bad you're not in Detroit ... I know that I could find a willing "groom" for you ... personally, the only thing that would make me think twice is his wife and kids ... and the fact that the kids may one day need therapy after seeing the images ... other than that, it sounds like a blast ...

sulamk

Canon EOS-60D

Sigma 70-200 /2.8 APO EX DG Macro HSM II

04/09/2008 08:40:47 AM · #5

Ask for my money in advance, tell him to find a partner and make sure that I had a chaperone close by!
just pretend it is all as normal as any other wedding when you shoot it. you're the photg not the judge of his morals or fantasies so treat it like any other paid assignment.

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/09/2008 08:46:06 AM · #6

Egads, that would be awkward.

Personally, I think I'd turn it down unless it had the "blessing" of his actual, female wife. I don't like to be in situations where the possibility of retaliation is looming over my head. In other words, what if his wife learns about the photo shoot, shows up and goes nutso shmutso?

Chinabun

Canon PowerShot SD990 IS

04/09/2008 09:03:10 AM · #7

Sweet! Keep with him. Maybe he'll get pregnant in a few yrs and you can photograph that!

citymars

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/09/2008 09:08:43 AM · #8

Tell him you'll do it, but only if you are allowed to post the photos in your DPC portfolio. Or maybe you'll get lucky and the shoot will coincide with a Crossdressing II challenge?

pix-al

Canon EOS-5D

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

04/09/2008 09:17:32 AM · #9

Originally posted by alanfreed:

Personally, I think I'd turn it down unless it had the "blessing" of his actual, female wife.

Agreed...

I can understand some men wanting to go out on the town with their mates all dressed as girls (Squeezed into their parners dress, with loads of stubble etc), but this is just freaky... Guy needs to see a shrink.

04/09/2008 09:17:54 AM · #10

Originally posted by alanfreed:

The wife would definately know that hes comming here (they live like 2 states away)for the portrait session. shes tolerant of his hobby..just not supportive.

so what poses do you all think would be good ones? I dont know how "baby" faced he is now so Im thinking some cloneing will be in order(ive emailed him for a few recent photos so i can decide what poses are going to work for him). but i have no idea what types of poses I should be looking at here...like i said..new case for me. I personaly dont have a moral issue with this. Im not paid enough yet to have an issue with this.everyone is different and I like to accent each persons differences with BG and poses. so far I have been blessed with clients that are fun and outgoing (which i love). so heres the shocker...Ive told him i would do the shoot for FREE! he just wants the photos on a cd!.he has agreed to getting just the CD of all the web sized edited photos($300)and a release to post them to his website only.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/09/2008 09:19:17 AM · #11

Originally posted by citymars:

Tell him you'll do it, but only if you are allowed to post the photos in your DPC portfolio. Or maybe you'll get lucky and the shoot will coincide with a Crossdressing II challenge?

Oh he will be signing my model release! I will be posting here and on my website(i think...depends on how they come out tho)

TCGuru

Canon EOS-40D

04/09/2008 09:23:21 AM · #12

Could you perhaps find a willing female to dress as the groom?? :) Some women look like men when they want to... I think this sounds like a lot of fun and I am sure you will have fun doing it :)

As far as posing goes, I would look into some of the wedding photos here on this site. Pose him just like you would pose a bride... that way it looks real.

k4ffy

04/09/2008 09:29:36 AM · #13

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

Originally posted by citymars:
Tell him you'll do it, but only if you are allowed to post the photos in your DPC portfolio. Or maybe you'll get lucky and the shoot will coincide with a Crossdressing II challenge?

Oh he will be signing my model release! I will be posting here and on my website(i think...depends on how they come out tho)

but now, think about if his kids are browsing the site, and run into the photos. would you have a problem with that?

rossbilly

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/09/2008 09:35:01 AM · #14

Treat it as any other project & make a list of pros + cons, THEN decide if its worth any potential 'backlash':

Is it for fun, or are you to be paid? if so, is the money worth the hassle?
If it is for fun / portfolio, will it really be fun? would you want it in your folio?
What about the location - will it be easy to get good lighting, or a PITA?
Is it something that will add to your portfolio (as in, does it help you in some way)?

Regardless your decision, have fun & enjoy life! Your obligation is to your customers. It is NOT your obligation to make other's happy (by pretending that Karen doesn't exist). Now, if Karen is a psychopath, the payment had better be large & the cake should be cut with a plastic knife! :D

eta - crap! while I was busy being serious, everyone jumped in! aw hell cher, just be sure he shaves his legs!!

Message edited by author 2008-04-09 09:42:31.

Telehubbie

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/09/2008 09:36:04 AM · #15

...and some people say that internet chat rooms are filled with freaky people and pervs. :-)

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/09/2008 09:36:25 AM · #16

Originally posted by k4ffy:

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

Originally posted by citymars:
Tell him you'll do it, but only if you are allowed to post the photos in your DPC portfolio. Or maybe you'll get lucky and the shoot will coincide with a Crossdressing II challenge?

Oh he will be signing my model release! I will be posting here and on my website(i think...depends on how they come out tho)

but now, think about if his kids are browsing the site, and run into the photos. would you have a problem with that?

His kids are little(ages 9mths-4yrs old) now so it will be many years before they are surfing the net.and i dont see them finding my site unless they are grown and looking for a wedding photog in my area. like i said they live 2 huge states away. chances are minimal of stumbling onto me

edit to fix finger hiccups

Message edited by author 2008-04-09 09:40:02.

k4ffy

04/09/2008 09:41:34 AM · #17

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

fair enough, just something to think about.

cryingdragon

Canon EOS-10D

04/09/2008 09:41:44 AM · #18

Get a female to dress up as the groom. Could be a great shoot. I'd definitely do it.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

04/09/2008 09:42:54 AM · #19

Originally posted by cryingdragon:

Get a female to dress up as the groom. Could be a great shoot. I'd definitely do it.

Maybe his wife would volunteer? :-)

cryingdragon

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/09/2008 09:43:40 AM · #20

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by cryingdragon:
Get a female to dress up as the groom. Could be a great shoot. I'd definitely do it.

Maybe his wife would volunteer? :-)

I thought about suggesting that. But since she's merely tolerant, I don't think she would.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/09/2008 09:47:58 AM · #21

Originally posted by cryingdragon:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by cryingdragon:
Get a female to dress up as the groom. Could be a great shoot. I'd definitely do it.

Maybe his wife would volunteer? :-)
I thought about suggesting that. But since she's merely tolerant, I don't think she would.

I dont know either...Im gonna ask!!

TCGuru

Canon EOS-40D

04/09/2008 10:51:02 AM · #22

Originally posted by cryingdragon:

Get a female to dress up as the groom. Could be a great shoot. I'd definitely do it.

You lie!! :P

You told me you wouldn't be caught DEAD in a dress!! Remember?? :P

However, I know I would gladly wear a suit and pose as my husbands husband :) hahhaaa I think it would be a lot 'O fun and it might just give that wife a way to connect with her husband and spend time with him and his hobby :)

Go for it girlie!! :)

drewbixcube

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

04/09/2008 11:00:27 AM · #23

Originally posted by Simms:

Possibly the best post this year... fantastic. keep us updated.

Ditto!

slickchik

OM System OM-1

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

04/09/2008 11:12:08 AM · #24

I'd run away...far far away...This is so weird on so many different levels.