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04/04/2008 01:06:36 AM · #1 |
| I know there's a way to save a file so that you can reopen it later and still have all your layers and history and stuff to work on it again, but for the life of me, I can't remember what that is... (Can you tell I don't edit a lot?) |
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04/04/2008 01:15:38 AM · #2 |
Save it as a PSD or TIF file.
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04/04/2008 01:20:03 AM · #3 |
 geoffb beat me to it, but yeah, I just save it as a
Photoshop (*psd.*pdd) file.
I usually make sure the
Copy and Layers boxes are ticked..
I know it's easy to have a mental block on this stuff sometimes. |
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04/04/2008 02:08:42 AM · #4 |
| Thanks guys - I thought it was psd and saved one like that the other day, but when I opened it back up, it just opened. The palette didn't show my layers. So I must not have checked a box somewhere. If I did save it as a psd, is there something else I need to do when I reopen it to show all that stuff? I think it must be that I had it checked in the past, but didn't check something when I installed the new version on the new 'puter. I shall play some more! |
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04/04/2008 11:43:34 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Thanks guys - I thought it was psd and saved one like that the other day, but when I opened it back up, it just opened. The palette didn't show my layers. So I must not have checked a box somewhere. If I did save it as a psd, is there something else I need to do when I reopen it to show all that stuff? I think it must be that I had it checked in the past, but didn't check something when I installed the new version on the new 'puter. I shall play some more! |
As  sfalice mentioned, make sure that Layers is checked on in the Save As... box.
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04/04/2008 11:47:16 PM · #6 |
PSD files (preferred format for saves) automatically keep layers.
TIFF files only keep layers if the box is checked, and they get HUGE.
I am not aware of any way to save history, that starts fresh with each edit. Ditto for snapshots.
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04/05/2008 12:12:44 AM · #7 |
TIFF files have always been smaller than PSD files for me... so I always use TIFF instead of PSD. It gives me the same freedom, and it saves hd space.
Message edited by author 2008-04-05 00:13:16. |
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04/05/2008 12:21:08 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by yann:
TIFF files have always been smaller than PSD files for me... so I always use TIFF instead of PSD. It gives me the same freedom, and it saves hd space. |
Not if you save the layers. With layers included, PSD is smaller than TIFF. By default TIFF flattens an image, and then it is is smaller than a layered PSD image.
R. |
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04/05/2008 12:52:15 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
PSD files (preferred format for saves) automatically keep layers. |
Not if you uncheck the layers checkbox. I just tried it to confirm.
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04/05/2008 01:45:52 AM · #10 |
| Deb, you might also want to turn on "History Logging" under the General Preferences in CS3. The "detailed" setting, attached to the metadata, can be viewed in Bridge by getting the "File Info" or by viewing the metadata for the file. I don't know how much size logging will add to the files, I suspect not much. |
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04/05/2008 01:49:31 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by geoffb:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
PSD files (preferred format for saves) automatically keep layers. |
Not if you uncheck the layers checkbox. I just tried it to confirm. |
Yes, I meant by default, sorry. TIFF defaults the other way.
R. |
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04/05/2008 01:53:56 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Deb, you might also want to turn on "History Logging" under the General Preferences in CS3. The "detailed" setting, attached to the metadata, can be viewed in Bridge by getting the "File Info" or by viewing the metadata for the file. I don't know how much size logging will add to the files, I suspect not much. |
This works fine if all you want the history for is a record of steps. But you can't USE the history to backtrack to an earlier state in the image, like you can when the file is open and you're working on it. And anyway all it does is record "cloning brush/cloning brush/cloning brush/layer mode change/etc/etc" ad infinitum. When yous ave a file with layers, in theory at least (if you're working sensibly), you can recover actual DATA from the layers; how much hue/sat was used, and so forth. There's also a function in CS3 to make NOTES, which I ought to use but rarely do. You can attach those notes to the image file, they get saved, and you can refer to them at any time in the future. I forget what it is called, but I have used it occasionally. It's cool.
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04/05/2008 03:33:55 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Deb, you might also want to turn on "History Logging" under the General Preferences in CS3. The "detailed" setting, attached to the metadata, can be viewed in Bridge by getting the "File Info" or by viewing the metadata for the file. I don't know how much size logging will add to the files, I suspect not much. |
This works fine if all you want the history for is a record of steps. But you can't USE the history to backtrack to an earlier state in the image, like you can when the file is open and you're working on it. And anyway all it does is record "cloning brush/cloning brush/cloning brush/layer mode change/etc/etc" ad infinitum. When yous ave a file with layers, in theory at least (if you're working sensibly), you can recover actual DATA from the layers; how much hue/sat was used, and so forth. There's also a function in CS3 to make NOTES, which I ought to use but rarely do. You can attach those notes to the image file, they get saved, and you can refer to them at any time in the future. I forget what it is called, but I have used it occasionally. It's cool.
R. |
The "detailed" logging option will keep track of all of the settings necessary to manually duplicate an adjustment layer. It is handy in my workflow when I have several edits of the same photo, all with adjustment layers with various settings. Rather than archive all of the versions as .psd files, each with several adjustment layers, I save the various edits as small jpeg files with attached metadata history logs. I usually will save only my favorite version as a .psd with all layers intact. Often it is only one adjustment layer that has changed between each edit and for me the History Log is preferable to saving each .psd version with complete layers - it saves a lot of disk space.
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04/05/2008 04:55:45 AM · #14 |
Hey Steve, that's essentially what I do now. I do have history logging on and when I want to replicate something, I read through my steps and do it again. This works just fine if you don't do a lot of dodging, burning, cloning, etc, which suits me quite well. I like your idea of keeping several small jpeg files then only one .psd. I have to admit I very, very rarely keep a .psd file. What with the file sizes bigger out of the camera and my apparent inability to delete stuff, I find that storage space fills up a lot faster than it used to.
I still haven't gone back to see if a layers box was checked somewhere... I shall wander off to do that now. |
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04/05/2008 09:16:12 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Often it is only one adjustment layer that has changed between each edit and for me the History Log is preferable to saving each .psd version with complete layers - it saves a lot of disk space. |
I do it a little differently: if I want to make changes in, say, the curves layer, then I will duplicate that layer, make the first instance invisible, and make my changes. The file now has two curves layers that can be alternately toggled on/off to compare results, and both are saved to the final PSD file completely intact.
I wasn't aware that history logs could be that detailed. I'll look into them.
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04/05/2008 09:48:16 AM · #16 |
Speaking of Photoshop... I deployed in Mid January and my friend sent me a copy for my recently purchased Mac.
Guess what! Its the beginning of April and i still havent received it... I have gone to check my mail almost
every day hoping there would be a package with my name on it. Every day i turn around with my head bowed in sadness. Mainly because my hope was without merit another day and yet nobody still hasnt sent me a letter...
Oh well, one month left and i can get my own copy lol... |
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04/05/2008 11:23:00 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Often it is only one adjustment layer that has changed between each edit and for me the History Log is preferable to saving each .psd version with complete layers - it saves a lot of disk space. |
I do it a little differently: if I want to make changes in, say, the curves layer, then I will duplicate that layer, make the first instance invisible, and make my changes. The file now has two curves layers that can be alternately toggled on/off to compare results, and both are saved to the final PSD file completely intact. |
I do the same, especially since an extra adjustment layer adds almost nothing to the file size.
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04/05/2008 03:11:54 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by geoffb:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Often it is only one adjustment layer that has changed between each edit and for me the History Log is preferable to saving each .psd version with complete layers - it saves a lot of disk space. |
I do it a little differently: if I want to make changes in, say, the curves layer, then I will duplicate that layer, make the first instance invisible, and make my changes. The file now has two curves layers that can be alternately toggled on/off to compare results, and both are saved to the final PSD file completely intact. |
I do the same, especially since an extra adjustment layer adds almost nothing to the file size. |
Yes, I do the same. I have a master .psd file with all layers intact. I use the archived jpegs with attached history metadata to remind me of the path I took for any particular version. I didn't mean to imply the history log was a replacement for a .psd w/layers file. It is merely a supplement and, in some cases, may be useful. |
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04/07/2008 03:28:06 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by yann:
TIFF files have always been smaller than PSD files for me... so I always use TIFF instead of PSD. It gives me the same freedom, and it saves hd space. |
Not if you save the layers. With layers included, PSD is smaller than TIFF. By default TIFF flattens an image, and then it is is smaller than a layered PSD image.
R. |
You might wanna double check your information cause I got the exact same image with layers saved as PSD and TIFF, the PSD is 40MB and the TIFF is 20MB.
Perhaps are you unaware that you can save the TIFF files using lossless ZIP compression with Photoshop CS3? |
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