Challenge post-mortem threads - DPChallenge Forums

04/03/2008 03:18:31 PM · #1

Can we get the site to automatically generate a post-mortem thread like we have now for outtakes? This would be the place to spend a bit more time assessing why an entry worked or didn't work, and for participants to get a bit more feedback on their entries.

04/03/2008 03:28:17 PM · #2

Probably a good idea, but is there a different term available other than "post-mortem"...it sounds so, ummm, dead! :-)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:29:00 PM · #3

:-)

I suggested *someone* suggest this in the other thread a couple of minutes ago.

What do you think of the idea of combining it with the out-takes discussion, and re-naming the resultant combined thread? I'm just thinking of reducing forum clutter, and noting that the out-takes thread is rather under-utilized now anyway.

It seems to me that the "why didn't this do better?" and "How would this have done?" discussions overlap quite a bit, as for that matter would a "Why did this do so well?" discussion of what some consider a surprisingly high-scoring photo ...

04/03/2008 03:29:24 PM · #4

Suggested wording for the opening post if automatically generated:

"Did your challenge entry do worse than you expected? Better? Here's the chance to discuss why and why not. Post your entry and your own assessment of your photograph. Incorporate any insight from comments you may have received during voting. Try to comment on other shots posted here - provide a fair assessment. Be honest - if you don't like a shot, try to figure out why and express that tactfully. If you were put off by technical flaws, try to offer solutions. And when you receive a comment, understand it is from a viewpoint other than your own and intended to be helpful."

Other suggestions for wording cheerfully accepted!

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:30:59 PM · #5

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Probably a good idea, but is there a different term available other than "post-mortem"...it sounds so, ummm, dead! :-)

And it may infringe on the "Posthumous" trademark as well ...

Message edited by author 2008-04-03 15:31:47.

04/03/2008 03:31:40 PM · #6

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Probably a good idea, but is there a different term available other than "post-mortem"...it sounds so, ummm, dead! :-)

LOL! Post-mortem is used a lot for things other than, well, post-mortems in the dead person sense. In the acquisition business, we do post-mortems for those companies that didn't win the contract. In essence, the process is indeed "dead" at that point - we're just providing the results of the autopsy. So yeah, now that you mention it, it does sound a bit morbid. But I still kinda like it - after all, the challenge is "dead" at the point it rolls over after voting! :-)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:32:31 PM · #7

Originally posted by Melethia:

Other suggestions for wording cheerfully accepted!

That sounds cheerful enough to me.

04/03/2008 03:33:48 PM · #8

It can't be dead if people still want to talk about it. :-)

I agree that the term has other uses...it's just the first one that comes to mind.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:34:51 PM · #9

Originally posted by Melethia:

But I still kinda like it - after all, the challenge is "dead" at the point it rolls over after voting! :-)

Are "dissection" or "analysis" (to take apart) really any better?

04/03/2008 03:35:52 PM · #10

Challenge "Follow-ups" ??? Just thinking out loud. :-D

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:36:02 PM · #11

Originally posted by glad2badad:

It can't be dead if people still want to talk about it. :-)

Uh oh, vivisection has a bad rap ...

04/03/2008 03:37:02 PM · #12

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
It can't be dead if people still want to talk about it. :-)

Uh oh, vivisection has a bad rap ...

Flashbacks to High School 'Advanced Biology'!!! :-)

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

04/03/2008 03:39:07 PM · #13

Challenge Name - Armchair Quarterbacking

Challenge Name - Post Review & Feedback

edit, typo.

Message edited by author 2008-04-03 15:42:26.

SteveJ

Canon EOS-7D

04/03/2008 03:40:33 PM · #14

Perhaps call it 'The Ritual Dismantling' thread?

Or, 'Exposure of Errors' thread?

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:41:45 PM · #15

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
It can't be dead if people still want to talk about it. :-)

Uh oh, vivisection has a bad rap ...

Flashbacks to High School 'Advanced Biology'!!! :-)

Virtual Frog Dissection Lab

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:43:04 PM · #16

How about "Deconstructing "?

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

04/03/2008 03:43:13 PM · #17

Challenge Name - The Talkback Thread

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

04/03/2008 03:44:00 PM · #18

How about "After Words"?

04/03/2008 03:47:02 PM · #19

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Virtual Frog Dissection Lab

Just the thought of it brings a faint whiff of formaldehyde! :-)

04/03/2008 03:47:23 PM · #20

Originally posted by KaDi:

How about "After Words"?

Catchy...clever!

04/03/2008 03:55:09 PM · #21

Originally posted by KaDi:

How about "After Words"?

That gets my vote. And to Paul's earlier suggestion, not sure about combining with outtakes - but it may work. I'm just wondering if it might get confusing.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/03/2008 03:59:28 PM · #22

It would be simplest to start them as separate threads, but I think it would be good to consider combining all the post-challenge discussion in one thread at some point.

04/03/2008 04:03:11 PM · #23

The one downside I see to this is currently, any outtakes are supposed to be posted to the 'Outtakes' thread after the challenge.

Is that going to apply to "What went wrong", "How would you..." type threads that are challenge related if this gets implemented?

As it is right now the "post-mortem" threads are voluntary. If someone wants to start their own thread soliciting feedback on their challenge entry that's ok (and I think it should stay that way).