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 04/03/2008 11:34:21 AM · #51
I'm very cautios about this "change the world" thing. Please, you're inflating the meaning of the work of the people who actually did some very very good work, but didn't change the world. I am not convinced that famine and war and space trips were changed based on images. There are other words, language is wonderful, it offers words like influenced, impacted, effected, affected, and what not, but a change means a deprature from what was happening before.

But, I stand here to be corrected.
 04/03/2008 11:45:33 AM · #52
Originally posted by Gordon:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter

Thanks for that link to the wikipedia article. From there I found a link to this write-up, a longer but fascinating read:
//flatrock.org.nz/topics/odds_and_oddities/ultimate_in_unfair.htm
04/03/2008 11:58:02 AM · #53
I was thinking along the same lines, A photo can not change the world, However the photos posted in this thread so far, certainly made the world aware of problems that may never have been seen in that light if the photo had not been made public, So they can be credited for inspiration to make the change, But as far as change goes, Alot of things are still the same, Korea has a big line cutting it in half, Kids are still starving all over the world etc. It takes action to change things, Pictures and Words can only be part of the blueprint. They do change the way people think and view the world. So in a sense they do change somethings but without action the problems will always exist and the world will remain the same.

Originally posted by gjumi:
I'm very cautios about this "change the world" thing. Please, you're inflating the meaning of the work of the people who actually did some very very good work, but didn't change the world. I am not convinced that famine and war and space trips were changed based on images. There are other words, language is wonderful, it offers words like influenced, impacted, effected, affected, and what not, but a change means a deprature from what was happening before.

But, I stand here to be corrected.
04/03/2008 12:09:28 PM · #54
I'm risking to bounce like a ping-pong ball, but, what the hell...

I believe images can change the world: Roentgen's X-Rays, Bequerel's radioactivity, the proof of the existence of antimatter, cosmic rays, all these changes the worldview. I think that it takes a qualitative idea to change the world, not a quantity of ideas. All these things made, in a twisted way, made computers and information and television and mass media possible. And knowledge.

Unfortunately, I can't give examples from arts and culture and social life. Maybe science is the motor behind the change of the world, or maybe it is the nature of photography, which can be used as an instrument. If I knew, I'd like to list examples of photos that changes the way people look at art. Yes, today Mona Lisa is much more famous than Galileo's scribble of the Jupiter moons - but, it's the latter that changed the world; maybe the former also, but, please let me know how it did. Is a new art form a change of the world?
 04/03/2008 12:33:23 PM · #55
Originally posted by gjumi:
I'm risking to bounce like a ping-pong ball, but, what the hell...

I believe images can change the world: Roentgen's X-Rays, Bequerel's radioactivity, the proof of the existence of antimatter, cosmic rays, all these changes the worldview. I think that it takes a qualitative idea to change the world, not a quantity of ideas. All these things made, in a twisted way, made computers and information and television and mass media possible. And knowledge.

Unfortunately, I can't give examples from arts and culture and social life. Maybe science is the motor behind the change of the world, or maybe it is the nature of photography, which can be used as an instrument. If I knew, I'd like to list examples of photos that changes the way people look at art. Yes, today Mona Lisa is much more famous than Galileo's scribble of the Jupiter moons - but, it's the latter that changed the world; maybe the former also, but, please let me know how it did. Is a new art form a change of the world?


i think maybe the phrase "changed the world" is giving you the isssue. I think you keep thinking in terms of Physically changing the world, such as computers or x-rays or atomic energy. I believe others are refrencing how photos changed the perception of the world. Many of the photos posted "Opened the Eyes" to the average human to things they have never seen before, brutality, humanity, joy and wonder(among others), thus changing how they viewed the world around them. Trevor~
 04/03/2008 01:39:10 PM · #56
Originally posted by gjumi:
I'm risking to bounce like a ping-pong ball, but, what the hell...

I believe images can change the world: Roentgen's X-Rays, Bequerel's radioactivity, the proof of the existence of antimatter, cosmic rays, all these changes the worldview. I think that it takes a qualitative idea to change the world, not a quantity of ideas. All these things made, in a twisted way, made computers and information and television and mass media possible. And knowledge.

Unfortunately, I can't give examples from arts and culture and social life. Maybe science is the motor behind the change of the world, or maybe it is the nature of photography, which can be used as an instrument. If I knew, I'd like to list examples of photos that changes the way people look at art. Yes, today Mona Lisa is much more famous than Galileo's scribble of the Jupiter moons - but, it's the latter that changed the world; maybe the former also, but, please let me know how it did. Is a new art form a change of the world?


Going back to the three major Earth from space photos. These are examples where a photo, each of these in a slightly different way, changed the world by giving us something we could only imagine before; an actual view of Earth as a remote object floating in space. Kids growing up now will take those images for granted in the same way they will take computers in their lives for granted and may never fully understand that these photos actually changed the way we think and, yes, made physical changes for Humanity.

Actually, I would argue that making a change in the perception in the world results in physical and artistic changes. These Earth photos created shifts in environmental and peace movements, they have inspired authors and artists, and they challenged the core of some people's religious and philosophical beliefs in a way akin to the introduction of the heliocentric theory. Also, on a very pragmatic level, these pictures in particular had an incalcuable PR value that helped NASA gain & maintain the public support and budget that has created the incredibly rich variety of wavelengths and techniques for looking at the cosmos we enjoy today.

If these pictures didn't change the world in all the ways you're asking about, then I don't believe any picture ever has.
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