40D vs 450D - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/03/2008 09:47:24 AM · #1

I know this has been discussed. But the 450D is about to come out and I would like to make sure I am not missing anything in my analysis.

Reasons why one might choose a 40D over a 450D:
You don't look so amatureish (don't care about this one)
It is physically bigger (don't care about this one)
It has more weather proofing (is that true?)
You get an additional higher ISO setting (3200) (I care a bit)
Max shutter speed of 1/8000 (as apposed to 4000) (I care a bit)
6.5fps (as apposed to 3.5) (I care a bit)

Reasons why one might choose the 450D:
Slightly less expensive (I care a bit)
12.2MP and 4272x2848 (as apposed to 10.1MP and 3888x2592) (I care a bit)

Both cameras have the same focus and metering options and capabilities it seems to me. If this is arguable let me know... those items are very important to me.

Did I miss anything important?

Kaveran

Canon EOS-50D

04/03/2008 10:32:48 AM · #2

the 40D
uses CF crads

The XSi /450
uses SD memory cards

Personally I like the magnesium allow bodies as opposed to the plastic ones but thats just me. You cant really go wrong with either.

bobonacus

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

04/03/2008 10:37:26 AM · #3

the 40d also has the camera top display screen for the settings
you can also set up 3 sets of user settings on the dial

Tez

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

04/03/2008 10:40:27 AM · #4

40d is built better than the 450D and does have some semblance of weather sealing. 450D is plastic. I don't like plastic bodies. They feel a bit vulnerable.

Also, don't know about the 450D but my 400d has a hard time in humid or cold conditions with the autofocussing and sometimes the shutter won't even function if it's overly humid, hot or cold. I know the 5d doesn't suffer this badly but not sure about the 40d. Something to think about if you're going to be in adverse climates.

hopper

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM

04/03/2008 10:43:27 AM · #5

40D - 9 cross type focusing points compared to only 1 on the 450D

40D - 95% viewfinder (and brighter) compared to 87% on the 450D

40D - Better battery life (no big deal in my opinion)

40D - RAW + smaller jpg mode and sRAW compared to RAW + Large jpg only on the 450D

I'm struggling with the same decision, but I have time cuz I don't quite have the money yet :)

Tez

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

04/03/2008 10:44:59 AM · #6

Also, i'm guessing the 450D will be noisier than the 40d on image output due to the increased amount of photosites on the same size sensor. The 400d is not exactly great in this department as it is.

digitalpins

Canon EOS-60D

04/03/2008 10:56:56 AM · #7

I am right with you on this one

Reasons why one might choose a 40D over a 450D:
You don't look so amatureish (I don't care about this one at all)
It is physically bigger (I actually like the smaller size)
It has more weather proofing (I don't care about this one at all a ziplock bag works just fine)
You get an additional higher ISO setting (3200) (I don't care......I rarely shoot with a high ISO)
Max shutter speed of 1/8000 (as apposed to 4000) (I don't care never shooting anything where I need to shoot that fast)
6.5fps (as apposed to 3.5) (I care a bit but can deal with it)

Reasons why one might choose the 450D:
Slightly less expensive (Selling point for me........ more money for glass)
12.2MP and 4272x2848 (as apposed to 10.1MP and 3888x2592) (Care a bit I guess but 2mp I am not gonna stress over)

When I got my 400 XTi people were all over me why did you not get the 40D, geese come on it takes just as good pictures as the 40D I dont need to be or worried about looking like a pro just cause I have a 40D. Right now I am shooting with my 400 and my old 350 if I decide to upgrade again I will get the 450 and sell my 350, just dont see spending the money on the 40D. I have shot weddings, portraits and everything else just fine with my 400. If you know what you are doing and have a couple of good lens you will get nice photos. I am really not shooting sporting events or anything where I really need 6.5fps, my rebel 400 can get a pretty good continuous number of fps shots

digitalpins

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

04/03/2008 11:01:19 AM · #8

Originally posted by hopper:

Those are also some good points but the longer battery life, I can shoot all day long on one battery and I am just fine. (batteries from sterlingtek by the way)
Now the 9 cross type focusing points compared to only 1 on the 450D thats something I wish the 450 had. (But again can deal with it)
The Raw+jpeg I would rarely or never would use that......just so use to editing Raws and just using them now.

k4ffy

04/03/2008 11:57:54 AM · #9

i dont know what sensor the 450d uses, but if its similar to the one in the old 350d, then the 40d is significantly more noise-free even at the lower iso's. the 350d's images looked clean when i was using it but i was stunned by the clarify of the 40d once i got that.

i also love the physical interface, i.e. the combination of thumb wheel and scroll wheel.

the other thing to think about is that your main advantage to the 450d is the price. but you're probably going to be using the camera for a few years, so does $300-400 really matter that much over 3-4 years?

Message edited by author 2008-04-03 11:58:53.

hopper

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM

04/03/2008 01:00:50 PM · #10

more thoughts:

the 450D has 3 stop exposure compensation as apposed to 2 stop on the 40D

the 40D has intermediate iso settings as apposed to 450D's 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600

Tez

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

04/03/2008 01:50:23 PM · #11

i think the shutter of the 40d is designed to last longer than the rebel series' one too.

If i had the choice of buying either i'd go for the 40d because of the build quality. But get whatever, they're both decent.

slickchik

OM System OM-1

04/03/2008 02:20:22 PM · #12

In my experience with the 350D vs the 40D, the 40D has much better and much faster focusing capabilities. I was amazed with the difference when I upgraded.

04/03/2008 02:37:40 PM · #13

Excellent input - thanks all!

I learned that there were a few more reasons to go for the 40d

Has the camera top display screen for the settings (I care a bit)
You can set up 3 sets of user settings on the dial (I care a bit)

95% viewfinder (and brighter) compared to 87% on the 450D (no big deal)
Better battery life (no big deal)
RAW + smaller jpg mode and sRAW compared to RAW + Large jpg only on the 450D (I care a bit - this is actually the setting I would use)
The 450D has 3 stop exposure compensation as apposed to 2 stop on the 40D (I care a bit)

9 cross type focusing points compared to only 1 on the 450D - I assume that I should really care about this. But I am not exactly sure why. What are the advantages of cross-type points again? I seem to recall something about it only applying when fast lenses are used.... ????

04/03/2008 03:30:16 PM · #14

Oh.... and if you are thinking to move from a 350d to a 40d...

It seems that the batteries, remote cords, and the off camera shoe cords are not compatible. That bites of course.

Message edited by author 2008-04-03 15:30:25.

PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

04/03/2008 03:36:03 PM · #15

Originally posted by Bernard_Marx:

Oh.... and if you are thinking to move from a 350d to a 40d...

It seems that the batteries, remote cords, and the off camera shoe cords are not compatible. That bites of course.

I have to agree with that from my own experiences, then again the battery seems to last longer in my 40D than my 400D. Then again though its comforting to know that most of my accessories from the 40D will work with the likes of the 5D if I ever step up to something like that...

-dave

bobonacus

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

04/03/2008 04:37:51 PM · #16

My battery lasted for 1100 shots using an IS lens and viewing and deleting lots of images, I was well impressed!