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03/13/2008 02:31:14 AM · #1			 | 
		
		I have been playing a lot with the 3 settings for my meter, evaluative, partial, and center weighted average, I am just curios as to how some of you  all use it, and in what situations. I think I prefer to keep it on center weighted average and meter the brightest thing in the picture, but that won't work all of the time. Anyone?
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03/13/2008 11:08:42 AM · #2			 | 
		
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03/13/2008 11:15:46 AM · #3			 | 
		
		I use CW most of the time,  rotating 9 point for shooting while on the move in a car or truck, and spot for sunsets. About 1/2 or more of my shooting is done with older Nikkor lenses, which do not meter with my Fuji, so I use the "blinkies" on the LCD screen to see what's blown out, and adjust from there. 
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03/13/2008 11:23:00 AM · #4			 | 
		
		Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:   I use CW most of the time,  rotating 9 point for shooting while on the move in a car or truck,  |   
 
 what do you mean with 9 point?
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03/13/2008 11:48:42 AM · #5			 | 
		
		| I used spot metering with my old D50 but now use matrix metering 98% of the time with the D300. |  
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03/13/2008 12:10:41 PM · #6			 | 
		
		Originally posted by ben4345:   I used spot metering with my old D50 but now use matrix metering 98% of the time with the D300.  |   
 
 Matrix metering? That sounds cool, I'm going to look that up rather than ask what it is.
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03/13/2008 12:31:54 PM · #7			 | 
		
		| Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode. |  
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03/13/2008 12:55:19 PM · #8			 | 
		
		Originally posted by zeuszen:   Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode.  |   
 
 So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand.
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03/13/2008 01:53:33 PM · #9			 | 
		
		Originally posted by AndyMac24:   Matrix metering? That sounds cool, I'm going to look that up rather than ask what it is.  |   
 I think it's the same thing you call "evaluative" -- it takes the full frame into account.
 
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03/13/2008 01:58:16 PM · #10			 | 
		
		Originally posted by AndyMac24:   Originally posted by zeuszen:   Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode.  |   
 
 So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand.  |   
 
 I select a) the spot in the image I want/need to expose correctly (or very deliberately 'incorrectly' to suit my intent) or b) any spot whose value I take to be representative of the intended overall exposure (a bit of sky, say, when shooting a sunset). Depending on the light-sense I get considering conditions/time of day/scene etc., I may decide to over- or underexpose the spot-value by up to 1.5 - 2 stops.
 
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03/13/2008 02:05:07 PM · #11			 | 
		
		Originally posted by zeuszen:   Originally posted by AndyMac24:   Originally posted by zeuszen:   Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode.  |   
 
 So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand.  |   
 
 I select a) the spot in the image I want/need to expose correctly (or very deliberately 'incorrectly' to suit my intent) or b) any spot whose value I take to be representative of the intended overall exposure (a bit of sky, say, when shooting a sunset). Depending on the light-sense I get considering conditions/time of day/scene etc., I may decide to over- or underexpose the spot-value by up to 1.5 - 2 stops.  |   
 
 Thank you that was the best way I have heard it described. I've been playing with the meter peices of white, black, and gray paper and I think I get it now, thanks!!!!
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03/13/2008 02:06:00 PM · #12			 | 
		
		| Matrix metering 99.5% of the time. |  
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03/13/2008 03:11:42 PM · #13			 | 
		
		Evaluative. I've heard that other modes work better with flash indoors, but I get more consistent, predictable results with eval, so I stick with that as I know what I'll get, or what it's thinking so I can adjust accordingly.
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03/13/2008 04:25:16 PM · #14			 | 
		
		| /me needs to go read his manual on metering modes. |  
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03/13/2008 09:04:47 PM · #15			 | 
		
		Originally posted by AndyMac24:   Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:   I use CW most of the time,  rotating 9 point for shooting while on the move in a car or truck,  |   
 
 what do you mean with 9 point?  |   
 Just got back on line. To answer your question, it's matrix. I looked it up in the manual, and it uses 10 points, selecting exposure to not "blow out" the highlights in any area of the exposure, and adjusts dynamic range/contrast to get the shot with detail in the shadow areas if possible. 
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03/13/2008 09:07:24 PM · #16			 | 
		
		| completely manual... i dropped my 30D and the meter doesnt work... it has done wonders for my photography having to manually set the thing... although dont bet on quickfire shots.  I'm not in a rush to fix it either i suppose, love the fact i am forced to think about my photography :) |  
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03/14/2008 09:40:58 AM · #17			 | 
		
		Originally posted by zeuszen:   Originally posted by AndyMac24:   Originally posted by zeuszen:   Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode.  |   
 
 So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand.  |   
 
 I select a) the spot in the image I want/need to expose correctly (or very deliberately 'incorrectly' to suit my intent) or b) any spot whose value I take to be representative of the intended overall exposure (a bit of sky, say, when shooting a sunset). Depending on the light-sense I get considering conditions/time of day/scene etc., I may decide to over- or underexpose the spot-value by up to 1.5 - 2 stops.  |   
 
 If you are choosing a particular spot why use center weighted spot metering over plain spot metering? |  
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03/14/2008 11:32:28 AM · #18			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Phil:  ...If you are choosing a particular spot why use center weighted spot metering over plain spot metering?  |   
 
 We may just talking about the same thing. By 'centre-weighted', I was talking about the single selected focus point, as opposed to 'centre-weighted average', which would take that value and, then, average it out against the values as distributed over the whole matrix. The whole point of spot-metering (the way I mostly use it) is to override the algorithms the camera provides and make a very deliberate choice.
 
 So, in a way, yes, I do use 'plain spot-metering', to go with your phrase. 
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03/14/2008 01:54:04 PM · #19			 | 
		
		Originally posted by zeuszen:   Originally posted by Phil:  ...If you are choosing a particular spot why use center weighted spot metering over plain spot metering?  |   
 
 We may just talking about the same thing. By 'centre-weighted', I was talking about the single selected focus point, as opposed to 'centre-weighted average', which would take that value and, then, average it out against the values as distributed over the whole matrix. The whole point of spot-metering (the way I mostly use it) is to override the algorithms the camera provides and make a very deliberate choice.
 
 So, in a way, yes, I do use 'plain spot-metering', to go with your phrase.  |   
 
 I started to call it "simple spot metering" but I thought plain sounded more hick-like.
 
 Yes, you do use spot metering then. As far as I know there is no "centre weighted spot metering" so I figured you used center weighted metering to attempt spot metering and it didn't make sense. |  
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03/14/2008 02:06:41 PM · #20			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Phil:  ... I figured you used center weighted metering to attempt spot metering and it didn't make sense.  |   
 
 Well, you could select an off-centre focus point to meter with. You could meter in a number different points in the image area and average those... etc. |  
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03/14/2008 02:31:28 PM · #21			 | 
		
		Originally posted by zeuszen:   Originally posted by Phil:  ... I figured you used center weighted metering to attempt spot metering and it didn't make sense.  |   
 
 Well, you could select an off-centre focus point to meter with. You could meter in a number different points in the image area and average those... etc.  |   
 
 Yes but that would still be spot metering. |  
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03/14/2008 09:28:27 PM · #22			 | 
		
		| For me, it depends on the shot. I sometimes tend to adjust the metering on the fly. I usually stay in Spot metering for most shots; but if I think the shot demands it, I then would go into Matrix metering. |  
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