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03/13/2008 02:31:14 AM · #1 |
I have been playing a lot with the 3 settings for my meter, evaluative, partial, and center weighted average, I am just curios as to how some of you all use it, and in what situations. I think I prefer to keep it on center weighted average and meter the brightest thing in the picture, but that won't work all of the time. Anyone?
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03/13/2008 11:08:42 AM · #2 |
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03/13/2008 11:15:46 AM · #3 |
I use CW most of the time, rotating 9 point for shooting while on the move in a car or truck, and spot for sunsets. About 1/2 or more of my shooting is done with older Nikkor lenses, which do not meter with my Fuji, so I use the "blinkies" on the LCD screen to see what's blown out, and adjust from there.
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03/13/2008 11:23:00 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: I use CW most of the time, rotating 9 point for shooting while on the move in a car or truck, |
what do you mean with 9 point?
Message edited by author 2008-03-13 11:23:11.
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03/13/2008 11:48:42 AM · #5 |
I used spot metering with my old D50 but now use matrix metering 98% of the time with the D300. |
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03/13/2008 12:10:41 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by ben4345: I used spot metering with my old D50 but now use matrix metering 98% of the time with the D300. |
Matrix metering? That sounds cool, I'm going to look that up rather than ask what it is.
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03/13/2008 12:31:54 PM · #7 |
Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode. |
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03/13/2008 12:55:19 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by zeuszen: Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode. |
So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand.
Message edited by author 2008-03-13 12:56:06.
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03/13/2008 01:53:33 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24: Matrix metering? That sounds cool, I'm going to look that up rather than ask what it is. |
I think it's the same thing you call "evaluative" -- it takes the full frame into account.
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03/13/2008 01:58:16 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24: Originally posted by zeuszen: Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode. |
So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand. |
I select a) the spot in the image I want/need to expose correctly (or very deliberately 'incorrectly' to suit my intent) or b) any spot whose value I take to be representative of the intended overall exposure (a bit of sky, say, when shooting a sunset). Depending on the light-sense I get considering conditions/time of day/scene etc., I may decide to over- or underexpose the spot-value by up to 1.5 - 2 stops.
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03/13/2008 02:05:07 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by zeuszen: Originally posted by AndyMac24: Originally posted by zeuszen: Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode. |
So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand. |
I select a) the spot in the image I want/need to expose correctly (or very deliberately 'incorrectly' to suit my intent) or b) any spot whose value I take to be representative of the intended overall exposure (a bit of sky, say, when shooting a sunset). Depending on the light-sense I get considering conditions/time of day/scene etc., I may decide to over- or underexpose the spot-value by up to 1.5 - 2 stops. |
Thank you that was the best way I have heard it described. I've been playing with the meter peices of white, black, and gray paper and I think I get it now, thanks!!!!
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03/13/2008 02:06:00 PM · #12 |
Matrix metering 99.5% of the time. |
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03/13/2008 03:11:42 PM · #13 |
Evaluative. I've heard that other modes work better with flash indoors, but I get more consistent, predictable results with eval, so I stick with that as I know what I'll get, or what it's thinking so I can adjust accordingly.
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03/13/2008 04:25:16 PM · #14 |
/me needs to go read his manual on metering modes. |
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03/13/2008 09:04:47 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24: Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: I use CW most of the time, rotating 9 point for shooting while on the move in a car or truck, |
what do you mean with 9 point? |
Just got back on line. To answer your question, it's matrix. I looked it up in the manual, and it uses 10 points, selecting exposure to not "blow out" the highlights in any area of the exposure, and adjusts dynamic range/contrast to get the shot with detail in the shadow areas if possible.
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03/13/2008 09:07:24 PM · #16 |
completely manual... i dropped my 30D and the meter doesnt work... it has done wonders for my photography having to manually set the thing... although dont bet on quickfire shots. I'm not in a rush to fix it either i suppose, love the fact i am forced to think about my photography :) |
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03/14/2008 09:40:58 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by zeuszen: Originally posted by AndyMac24: Originally posted by zeuszen: Centre-weighted spot metering. Since I hardly ever use anything else, I'm beginning to feel quite at home in this mode. |
So when you use that are you actually using the center of the frame or are you metering a specific subject in the frame? I hate to ask annoying questions, but this is one of the things I really don't understand. |
I select a) the spot in the image I want/need to expose correctly (or very deliberately 'incorrectly' to suit my intent) or b) any spot whose value I take to be representative of the intended overall exposure (a bit of sky, say, when shooting a sunset). Depending on the light-sense I get considering conditions/time of day/scene etc., I may decide to over- or underexpose the spot-value by up to 1.5 - 2 stops. |
If you are choosing a particular spot why use center weighted spot metering over plain spot metering? |
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03/14/2008 11:32:28 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Phil: ...If you are choosing a particular spot why use center weighted spot metering over plain spot metering? |
We may just talking about the same thing. By 'centre-weighted', I was talking about the single selected focus point, as opposed to 'centre-weighted average', which would take that value and, then, average it out against the values as distributed over the whole matrix. The whole point of spot-metering (the way I mostly use it) is to override the algorithms the camera provides and make a very deliberate choice.
So, in a way, yes, I do use 'plain spot-metering', to go with your phrase.
Message edited by author 2008-03-14 11:33:51. |
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03/14/2008 01:54:04 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by zeuszen: Originally posted by Phil: ...If you are choosing a particular spot why use center weighted spot metering over plain spot metering? |
We may just talking about the same thing. By 'centre-weighted', I was talking about the single selected focus point, as opposed to 'centre-weighted average', which would take that value and, then, average it out against the values as distributed over the whole matrix. The whole point of spot-metering (the way I mostly use it) is to override the algorithms the camera provides and make a very deliberate choice.
So, in a way, yes, I do use 'plain spot-metering', to go with your phrase. |
I started to call it "simple spot metering" but I thought plain sounded more hick-like.
Yes, you do use spot metering then. As far as I know there is no "centre weighted spot metering" so I figured you used center weighted metering to attempt spot metering and it didn't make sense. |
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03/14/2008 02:06:41 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Phil: ... I figured you used center weighted metering to attempt spot metering and it didn't make sense. |
Well, you could select an off-centre focus point to meter with. You could meter in a number different points in the image area and average those... etc. |
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03/14/2008 02:31:28 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by zeuszen: Originally posted by Phil: ... I figured you used center weighted metering to attempt spot metering and it didn't make sense. |
Well, you could select an off-centre focus point to meter with. You could meter in a number different points in the image area and average those... etc. |
Yes but that would still be spot metering. |
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03/14/2008 09:28:27 PM · #22 |
For me, it depends on the shot. I sometimes tend to adjust the metering on the fly. I usually stay in Spot metering for most shots; but if I think the shot demands it, I then would go into Matrix metering. |
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