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02/20/2008 07:37:10 PM · #1
I know that for extension tubes, the magnification is tube length/lens focal length.

What's the equivalent formula for either:
1) reversing a lens on the body, using a reversing ring. For example, reverse-mounting a 50mm lens on my D200.

2) reversing a lens on the end of another lens? For example, reverse-mounting a 50mm lens on my 70-200.

Thanks!


02/20/2008 07:40:44 PM · #2
I dont know but I'd be very interested also ...

I just started working with mine on a 50MM and just love it for product work,
02/20/2008 07:44:06 PM · #3
For (2) it's FL of normal lens divided by FL of reversed lens, plus magnification of normal lens. For instance, reversing a 50mm lens on a 100mm macro lens set to 1:1, you get 100mm/50mm+1 = 3.0
I don't know offhand what the calculation is for (1).

Edit... geez get the numbers right kirbic :-P

Message edited by author 2008-02-20 19:44:48.
02/20/2008 07:45:55 PM · #4
Originally posted by kirbic:

For (2) it's FL of normal lens divided by FL of reversed lens, plus magnification of normal lens. For instance, reversing a 50mm lens on a 100mm macro lens set to 1:1, you get 100mm/50mm+1 = 3.0
I don't know offhand what the calculation is for (1).

Edit... geez get the numbers right kirbic :-P


Ah, thanks! So at 200mm, I'd beat 4:1. Now to find a miniature sun to provide the light. :)

ETA: *gasp* There's something technical about photography that kirbic doesn't know? My world is shaken!

Message edited by author 2008-02-20 19:46:39.
02/20/2008 07:49:12 PM · #5
Originally posted by levyj413:


Ah, thanks! So at 200mm, I'd beat 4:1. Now to find a miniature sun to provide the light. :)


Indeed, or a short focal length lens with a gargantuan clear aperture to reverse on that 70-200/2.8 ;-P

Originally posted by levyj413:

ETA: *gasp* There's something technical about photography that kirbic doesn't know? My world is shaken!


Yah, it's true. There's all too much in that category, I'm afraid!

Message edited by author 2008-02-20 19:49:26.
02/20/2008 07:51:04 PM · #6
Actually, since my 70-200 has a constant aperture of f/2.8, does that help with the light? How do ya figger out light loss in stops, anyway? I know teleconverters cost you 1 stop of light for every 1.4x magnification.
02/20/2008 07:52:16 PM · #7
Yeah there is a shot on my website (the 2 plugs if you care to look in my gallery on my website) was metered at 1/125 at f64 So yeah... I am thinking that Thermonucular lighting may be called for .

So the shot was done at f22 reversed ... so what is that 3.5 stops

ETAA:

This was done with just the 50 reversed

Message edited by author 2008-02-20 19:55:57.
02/20/2008 07:53:10 PM · #8
Originally posted by levyj413:

Actually, since my 70-200 has a constant aperture of f/2.8, does that help with the light? How do ya figger out light loss in stops, anyway? I know teleconverters cost you 1 stop of light for every 1.4x magnification.


If the clear aperture of the reversed lens is large enough not to artificially "stop down" the normally-mounted lens, there is no light loss (well, only internal reflection due to more glass surfaces, so a small fraction of a stop).
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