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Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

02/18/2008 09:42:58 PM · #51

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by zxaar:

Originally posted by karmat:
As far as locked threads. One was locked because it was denigrating into throwing personal insults (posts by more than Leroy were hidden, btw), and was getting WAY off topic. This one was subsequently started (or bumped, actually).

A second one was locked because it served no purpose -- to anyone not reading the forums, it would not have made any sense. He subsequently opened a second one, more clearly outlining what he wanted, and it is still going.

Would SC be treated the same way? Yes, and probably more severely.

You know you have given the reason why the threads were locked, but the same time you have suspended member for starting or bumping threads.

If he did not start the threads so quickly or immediately after each other, I am sure you could not argue that he was engaged in disruptive behaviour. If the threads were not locked he would be discussing it there.
You still can not label a person to be involved in disruptive behaviour if he starts few threads quickly. Or write few comments that you did not like.

We found Leroy's behavior to be intentionally inflammatory, and he was given a short time-out. That's all there is to say on the matter. We're here to make sure that the forums remain a civil venue for intelligent discussion. If Leroy wishes to air the laundry as to the specifics of why he got the (very short) suspension, then as Karmat posted, he has avenues to do so.

Obviously you would find his behaviour intentionally inflammatory because you close one thread and he starts another one to SCs annoyance. And this is exactly what I am saying, if you do not close the thread, he won't be starting another one. And you can not say what you just said.
Closing threads when someone wants to say something is same as inciting him. SC is involved in this part of the whole issue. Isn't it.
How about we do not lock threads and let the members say what they want to say.

rossbilly

Nikon D200

02/18/2008 09:43:32 PM · #52

Originally posted by karmat:

as far as the poll goes --

Langdon (the owner, for those that may not know) is the only one that can do site-wide polls. Ultimately, it is your decision.

Leroy listed 5 or so options in the first post. If you want your opinion noted in poll-like fashion, please feel free to post it here as others have done.
:)

Guess I should have asked "Does SC have any interest in bringing this issue TO Langdon, including our (collective) request for a poll, or is it something one of us should (politely!) bring to his attention?" Just asking...

Thank you for the clarification, Karma. I'm simply trying to avoid doing the same poll twice. That, and I'm too lazy to go through this (and several other!) threads to tally up people's opinions :D

iamkmaniam

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

02/18/2008 09:44:38 PM · #53

Originally posted by JamieLynn:

Originally posted by iamkmaniam:
I just lost all respect for this thread and the others. This whole argument started because someone left a constructive criticism IMO about an image.

Then I find this comment made by the upset:

Comment on JamieLynn image: That's meeeee and ma two dolla ho :-D

With comments like this he should be banned friends or not.

This comment adds NOTHING NOTHING to anything

Kevin

and to think he's crying about a belly comment. Thats insane

thing is.. he posted that on MY image. i would surely like the option to delete that comment had i found it offensive.

No comment

also, at that particular shoot, i was the one that called laise (the model) a two dolla ho. i guess that makes me unprofessional. or it could make her my best friend. and she could actually have a sense of humor -GASP- i know its a hard concept to grasp.

as far as his comment adding nothing to anything.. i guess thats why they make the little box to check for helpful comments =)

No comment

Message edited by author 2008-02-18 21:45:23.

02/18/2008 09:45:23 PM · #54

Can we have a poll about this thread locking issue. Lets see what other DPC members think about it.

JamieLynn

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

02/18/2008 09:47:37 PM · #55

Originally posted by zxaar:

Can we have a poll about this thread locking issue. Lets see what other DPC members think about it.

at the rate we're going, we're going to need polls about having polls ;)

02/18/2008 09:48:49 PM · #56

Originally posted by rossbilly:

Feel absolutely free to do so, in fact I encourage you to do so.

Help>Contact and use the "Administrative inquiry" link. Be sure to reference this thread.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

02/18/2008 09:50:46 PM · #57

Originally posted by zxaar:

Can we have a poll about this thread locking issue. Lets see what other DPC members think about it.

Proposed wording:

Do you think threads should be locked?

1.) With loctite?
2.) With a locknut?
3.) With a hammer?
4.) Only male threads, never female threads
5.) Never, it's inhumane to the threads

JamieLynn

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

02/18/2008 09:53:46 PM · #58

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by zxaar:
Can we have a poll about this thread locking issue. Lets see what other DPC members think about it.

Proposed wording:

Do you think threads should be locked?

1.) With loctite?
2.) With a locknut?
3.) With a hammer?
4.) Only male threads, never female threads
5.) Never, it's inhumane to the threads

4!! everyone knows that men don't have anything useful to say.

rossbilly

Nikon D200

02/18/2008 09:54:30 PM · #59

don't forget the left-handed threads (think propane bottles) :D

02/18/2008 09:56:55 PM · #60

Originally posted by JamieLynn:

4!! everyone knows that men don't have anything useful to say.

Nuts to you, I say... now, I'll bolt for the door ;-)

Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

02/18/2008 09:58:20 PM · #61

Originally posted by rossbilly:

don't forget the left-handed threads (think propane bottles) :D

Always knew those left-leaning threads were full of gas! Lock the liberal buggers, I say!

JulietNN

Canon EOS R7

02/18/2008 10:09:30 PM · #62

thing is.. he posted that on MY image. i would surely like the option to delete that comment had i found it offensive.

also, at that particular shoot, i was the one that called laise (the model) a two dolla ho.
as far as his comment adding nothing to anything.. i guess thats why they make the little box to check

You said it sister

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/18/2008 10:16:23 PM · #63

Originally posted by zxaar:

Obviously you would find his behaviour intentionally inflammatory ...

I think what we found intentionally inflammatory was statements like this:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Eye for an eye... SC never deletes comments that are rude and distasteful on my photos... I'm going to just start retaliating.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

02/18/2008 10:18:59 PM · #64

The comments I've seen on here directed at the models would not be tolerated at just about any other reputable photography site that I can think of. At the least, they would be deleted and the offender given a warning.

It's an embarrassment to DPC that those in charge choose to look the other way.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

02/18/2008 10:19:54 PM · #65

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by zxaar:
Obviously you would find his behaviour intentionally inflammatory ...

I think what we found intentionally inflammatory was statements like this:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Eye for an eye... SC never deletes comments that are rude and distasteful on my photos... I'm going to just start retaliating.

So if someone tells SC that they do not delete the comments he reported. you found it intentionally inflammatory. Very good.

Message edited by author 2008-02-18 22:20:19.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

02/18/2008 10:25:33 PM · #66

Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by littlegett:
Why not a 'hide comment' feature.

I for one really dislike the 'personal opinion' clause, because that leaves the door open to the most horrid of comments because it is just 'personal opinion'. Granted some are few and far between, and rarely seen by me anymore, but there needs to be some type of control to the receiver. Hide comment, delete, something other then just a simple 'Report' because that doesn't always work.

All comments are ones personal opinion...

Which can be expressed in a considerate manner or spewed out in a hurtful, and vindictive way.

02/18/2008 10:28:20 PM · #67

Originally posted by zxaar:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by zxaar:
Obviously you would find his behaviour intentionally inflammatory ...

I think what we found intentionally inflammatory was statements like this:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Eye for an eye... SC never deletes comments that are rude and distasteful on my photos... I'm going to just start retaliating.

So if someone tells SC that they do not delete the comments he reported. you found it intentionally inflammatory. Very good.

Read it again... he threatened to make retaliatory comments, and *that* is inflammatory behavior. I will simply not go into other aspects of what went on. If Leroy feels the need to air the laundry then that's fine.

02/18/2008 10:32:13 PM · #68

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by zxaar:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by zxaar:
Obviously you would find his behaviour intentionally inflammatory ...

I think what we found intentionally inflammatory was statements like this:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Eye for an eye... SC never deletes comments that are rude and distasteful on my photos... I'm going to just start retaliating.

So if someone tells SC that they do not delete the comments he reported. you found it intentionally inflammatory. Very good.

Read it again... he threatened to make retaliatory comments, and *that* is inflammatory behavior. I will simply not go into other aspects of what went on. If Leroy feels the need to air the laundry then that's fine.

I think you should also read it again, he clearly said he reported some comments, those were not deleted by SC. So this reporting system is really broken and this proves it very well.

MelonMusketeer

Nikon D7000

Nikon MF 50mm f/1.4

02/18/2008 10:32:49 PM · #69

If you post your images here in public, and give the viewers the option of saying anything that they want about them, then there will be some comments that do not flatter the photographer, and once in a while, there will be some that make a chop at the subjects in the images.
I think that we have a system that works all right, and it allows people to comment without getting negative feedback for honest comments that do not please the photographer.
The only comments on my images that I would like to delete are four that I accidentally posted. I would like my comments helpful to be the same number as comments received.
I don't feel that we need to change the way things are now.
I sort of like being out of control. It makes life much more interesting for me.

As for Leroy's problem, posting images which are that edgy and expecting to not get a few lowbrow comments is somewhat like showing a lot of cleavage in public, and thinking that people will not be looking. Everybody notices, but there will be at least one that pops up with a wisecrack about it sooner or later.

JamieLynn

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

02/18/2008 10:39:15 PM · #70

Originally posted by kirbic:

he says -

"The quote from GeneralE comes from me reporting MY OWN comment. I made a retalitory comment to the poster of the "$20" comment and then reported my own post to get SC's attention. It seemed the only way to get their attention as my usual report comment requests go unanswered (with no reply or kiss my ass SC). It was unorthodox and probably uncalled for, but I firmly believe that SC needs to address this issue."

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

02/18/2008 10:39:28 PM · #71

Ummm...what was this thread about again?

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

02/18/2008 10:40:40 PM · #72

Originally posted by zxaar:

I think you should also read it again, he clearly said he reported some comments, those were not deleted by SC. So this reporting system is really broken and this proves it very well.

So if someone disagrees with our decision, then the system is broken?

undieyatch

Olympus E-10

02/18/2008 10:55:50 PM · #73

I always liked the pbase system.
A commenter has the option to hide his/her comment from public view, and is shown only to the photographer for private dialogue.
Like-wise the photographer on pbase has complete control to show, hide, or delete public & private comments.

Message edited by author 2008-02-18 22:57:08.