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02/03/2008 12:11:49 PM · #1
The translated new article

It made the news becuase it legalizes music sharing, peer to peer and over the 'net. BUT images are included in teh legislation - and the lesgislation has passed already.

In the new paragraph states "is permitted free publication through the Internet, free of charge, images and music at low resolution or degraded for scientific or educational use, and only when such use is not for profit" .

The key phrase that is getting all the press is degraded "Who wrote not realised that the word" degraded "is technical, it has a very precise meaning, which includes the mp3, fully," says Monti.

So if an MP3 is 'degraded' so would be a compressed, lossy, reduced size JPG, right?
02/03/2008 12:29:15 PM · #2
yup I would think so
02/03/2008 12:29:16 PM · #3
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

So if an MP3 is 'degraded' so would be a compressed, lossy, reduced size JPG, right?


I ain't a suit but that would certainly be included IMO. Not losless level-10/12 JPG thought right? :-) and not TIFF/RAW..... typical politicians... written by people that don't understand the impacts.

Edit: Cause I cannot sprell...

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02/03/2008 12:34:15 PM · #4
Originally posted by robs:



Edit: Cause I cannot sprell...


fits in with the italian/english translation just fine LOL

So how does this affect non-italians? Since I assume DPC can be seen in Italy then what happens to our images there?

Is editing for fun considered educational? Then what of the edited final image? Is it a new work (as the US oftens defines it) that could then be sold for profit?
02/03/2008 12:38:04 PM · #5
This is a case for the pro-copyright people.

From amateur to pro, copyrighting is even more important.
02/03/2008 12:47:48 PM · #6
Note that this only allows the use of such files "for scientific or educational use, and only when such use is not for profit."

This doesn't seem much different than the fair use doctrine in US copyright law.

~Terry
02/03/2008 12:51:50 PM · #7
I read about this and it is interesting, though from the perspective of a DPC style rights holder it has limited relevance IMO.

The rights only apply within Italian jurisdiction. International jurisprudence is fascinating but intensely complicated. Massively summarised, it is effective where the person "breaching" the copyright has no assets outside Italy and where they act from Italy.

The rights only apply to non-commercial exploitation. With images, the predominant method of exploitation is in advertising or the press. Neither of these will usually be non-commercial - so the threat is from personal use (not the biggest financial threat in the world for images, I would say).

The safest form of protection always has been, and will remain, the technical barrier in that people should/will keep full resolution images away from free public access.

This differs from music rights because the financial threat to professional music producers is downloading for personal use - not commercial exploitation.

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