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10/06/2003 10:05:37 AM · #1 |
After I finished taking photos last week and looked at them I didn't like them much. I submitted this 
I only cropped it a bit reduced the image size and unsharpen mask.
After I entered the challenge I played around with dodge and burn and got this 
I'm not worried about if it would have finished better I'm just wondering 1) Does it look like it was edited? 2) Which looks better?
I prefer the edited version. Anyways thanks for looking. |
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10/06/2003 10:15:07 AM · #2 |
| I like the second one better too, and it looks fine to me. But what do I know? |
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10/06/2003 10:22:14 AM · #3 |
No, is doesn't look edited, at least not that I could tell without having the comparison.
I like your entry better, I think it is sharper and looks to be a better focus. |
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10/06/2003 10:22:29 AM · #4 |
Here are a couple of quick alternatives to your second shot. I photoshopped the 1st picture using only dpc-legal techniques... basically levels, curves and colour balance.
The second one is almost identical to yours... so I wonder why you used dodge and burn as opposed to curves? |
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10/06/2003 10:36:40 AM · #5 |
Bob
I'am familar with the levels and color adjustments, but what is everyone refering to when they say use curves to bring out shadow detail?
Calvus
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10/06/2003 10:59:41 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Calvus:
Bob
I'am familar with the levels and color adjustments, but what is everyone refering to when they say use curves to bring out shadow detail?
Calvus |
Here are some websites that can help:
//www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/command_primer.shtml
//www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/photoshop/curves1.html (this looks particularly good)
//www.apple.com/creative/resources/ttphotoshop/605curves.html |
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10/06/2003 11:33:22 AM · #7 |
This is great!
I keep seeing referals to "The Luminous Landscape" but I never found time to go back and just enjoy it! I will have to now.
Thanks
Calvus
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10/06/2003 12:24:21 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Calvus:
I'm familar with the levels and color adjustments, but what is everyone refering to when they say use curves to bring out shadow detail?
Calvus |
Here's a copy of a recent post where I explained the basics of Curves as I use them:
Originally posted by ScottK:
:) I thought that might be the case, but I've always got the feeling I'm missing something that will suddenly make using curves intuitive to me. A mild sort of paranoia! |
I use Curves because they are intuitive. The key is that the steep part of the curve represents rapid change in tone values, hence greater detail.
Cruise around your photo and look at the values in the Info Window. Find the parts of the photo for which you want to bring out detail and note the range of values (e.g. 31% - 68%). You then take those points on the curve and extend the range of values within the range, by making the dark part darker and the light part lighter (e.g. 31% = 24%; 68% = 76%).
You will get a curve shaped like an elongated "S," and should see more contrast and detail in the intended area. The very dark/light parts will have their tones compressed (e.g. all tones which were above 68% are now between 76% - 100%).
The tones on the steep part of the curve has had its range extended; what used to be represented by a range of 37 (68-31) now has 52 values to use (76-24), hence a larger palette of tones and more detail.
The above is the "typical" adjustment. You can also apply separate curves to each channel as well as the composite. If the detail is NOT in the middle part of the range, you want to make different parts of the curve steeper.
You can also use curves to create all kinds of color effects if you're into "digital art" and not just photorealism. Here's an example I made when I first got my camera.
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10/06/2003 12:59:49 PM · #9 |
| Well those are some great examples Bob. The answer to your question is that I am not 100% knowledgeable on Photoshop. I've used Curves before but not much. Thanks for the links for the tutiorals on how to use them. |
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10/07/2003 04:22:34 AM · #10 |
I'm removing my workshop images, as someone placed a comment on one of them believing me to be the photographer. I sent an email informing them of the mistake, but I'm mystified about how this happened. My links were to the image itself, and not the page on the workshop where you could comment. I believe Setzler has been having similar problems with Workshop pages not being hidden.
Bob |
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