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 01/16/2008 01:53:58 PM · #76
I have 2 Fords, one is a 1996 Taurus with just over 120K miles. It's never had any major problems.

I have a 2001 Focus with close to 150K miles. It's had a few problems, but it's been no worse than any other car.
 01/16/2008 01:58:46 PM · #77
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
I see a WITCH! Lets go get her! Follow me!
How do you know she's a witch?

She turned me into a newt. It got better.
 01/16/2008 02:02:02 PM · #78
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Yup, you got it. When the new CMC* comes out with the 6,000 bux electric car that will carry 4 passengers 350 miles on a single charge, then it will be all over with for Ford, and Chevy and the others. Their logos will be up for grabs and you might be able to buy them.

*CMC=Chinese Motor Company.

Pretty soon the only thing the US manufactures will be babies and doo doo.


No, CMC = Chinese Yugo


Uh huh, I totally agree. People are going to slap themselves when they realize the car they paid $6000 for is worth exactly nothing as soon as it leaves the lot. They'll be stuck with it, until it dies and it'll eventually end up as a Budweiser can. Well, at least there is a happy ending :-D
 01/16/2008 03:16:25 PM · #79
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Yup, you got it. When the new CMC* comes out with the 6,000 bux electric car that will carry 4 passengers 350 miles on a single charge, then it will be all over with for Ford, and Chevy and the others. Their logos will be up for grabs and you might be able to buy them.

*CMC=Chinese Motor Company.

Pretty soon the only thing the US manufactures will be babies and doo doo.


No, CMC = Chinese Yugo


Uh huh, I totally agree. People are going to slap themselves when they realize the car they paid $6000 for is worth exactly nothing as soon as it leaves the lot. They'll be stuck with it, until it dies and it'll eventually end up as a Budweiser can. Well, at least there is a happy ending :-D


They'll probably get recalled for lead paint.
 01/16/2008 03:16:45 PM · #80
Unless someone has somethng else to add regarding the issue of selling images depicting Ford logos and/or products, this thread should end now.
 01/16/2008 03:41:38 PM · #81
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Unless someone has somethng else to add regarding the issue of selling images depicting Ford logos and/or products, this thread should end now.

We can start a "U.S. Autombiles vs 'Other' Autombiles" thread. Let's bring it over there, folks!

01/16/2008 03:50:56 PM · #82
Originally posted by icu1965:
One of my friends sent me that in a personal e-mail the other day. I guess he's familiar with copyright issues because someone tried to do the same thing to him.
They way I see it, if you bought the car, it's yours. You have the right to drive it, wreck it, leave it in the garage and never drive it, or take pictures of it. I guess I have to ask how Ford feels about classified ads. A lot of people here take pictures of their vehicle they're trying to sell and include it with their ad in the newspaper.


I believe the point is yes, you can take all the photos you want of your car, but you can't sell them with the Ford logo showing.

Message edited by author 2008-01-19 13:56:42.
 01/16/2008 05:05:50 PM · #83
Apparently actions like this is why in the Transformers movie that "bumblebee" was a Camaro and not the VW Beetle portrayed in the cartoons, VW didn't want their beloved Bug seen in a violent movie like that esp as a main character. Also if you pay attention to a lot of commercials now (in North America anyway) that esp have cars in them I would say, 60% to 80% have the emblems removed in the commercial unless its actually for the auto manufacturer.

-dave
01/16/2008 06:19:43 PM · #84
Originally posted by dknourek:
Apparently actions like this is why in the Transformers movie that "bumblebee" was a Camaro and not the VW Beetle portrayed in the cartoons, VW didn't want their beloved Bug seen in a violent movie like that esp as a main character.


I'm willing to bet GM had a lot of "influence" too. Was a perfect op to announce that the Camaro is back.
 01/16/2008 07:06:42 PM · #85
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
There is an aspect of trademark law that nobody is touching on here; it's called "Protect it or lose it". The courts have consistently ruled that if a corporation does not take active steps to protect its trademarks etc, they move into the public domain. A good example of this is "kleenex", which is now a generic name for a facial tissue even though it began as a specific, trademarked product, and in fact is STILL a specific, trademarked product. Ford, and nay other corporation, really has no choice, legally speaking, except to protect their trademarks in this manner.

R.


I did in my post. ;)

Mike
 01/16/2008 07:49:37 PM · #86
Originally posted by MikeJ:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
There is an aspect of trademark law that nobody is touching on here; it's called "Protect it or lose it". The courts have consistently ruled that if a corporation does not take active steps to protect its trademarks etc, they move into the public domain. A good example of this is "kleenex", which is now a generic name for a facial tissue even though it began as a specific, trademarked product, and in fact is STILL a specific, trademarked product. Ford, and nay other corporation, really has no choice, legally speaking, except to protect their trademarks in this manner.

R.


I did in my post. ;)

Mike


Missed that, sorry...

R.

01/16/2008 08:00:47 PM · #87
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by dknourek:
Apparently actions like this is why in the Transformers movie that "bumblebee" was a Camaro and not the VW Beetle portrayed in the cartoons, VW didn't want their beloved Bug seen in a violent movie like that esp as a main character.


I'm willing to bet GM had a lot of "influence" too. Was a perfect op to announce that the Camaro is back.


It's called product placement.
 01/16/2008 10:24:35 PM · #88
fixed or repaired daily

found on road dead

01/16/2008 10:29:34 PM · #89
Can Hear Every Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips
 01/17/2008 02:01:15 AM · #90
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by MikeJ:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
There is an aspect of trademark law that nobody is touching on here; it's called "Protect it or lose it". The courts have consistently ruled that if a corporation does not take active steps to protect its trademarks etc, they move into the public domain. A good example of this is "kleenex", which is now a generic name for a facial tissue even though it began as a specific, trademarked product, and in fact is STILL a specific, trademarked product. Ford, and nay other corporation, really has no choice, legally speaking, except to protect their trademarks in this manner.

R.


I did in my post. ;)

Mike


Missed that, sorry...

R.


LOL! No problem, I was just razzing you. There's one advantage about nobody paying attention to what I say... I can say anything I want and not worry about it. :D

Mike
 01/17/2008 02:36:16 AM · #91
Originally posted by MikeJ:
There's one advantage about nobody paying attention to what I say... I can say anything I want and not worry about it. :D

Mike


Say what?
 01/17/2008 06:43:43 AM · #92
speaking of copyrights ,my friend in advertising even has to watch how they advertise SUPERBOWL parties on the radio at the local pubs since the NFL owns the word SUPERBOWL lol.....
 01/23/2008 04:31:27 PM · #93
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Correct. However, beyond the trademarked logo I believe that the design is automatically copyrighted and thus protected from reproduction.


There was a case a few years ago where one of the Korean (I think) auto manufacturers released a small SUV that had a front end (grill) that looked strikingly like the front end of a Jeep Cherokee. Chrysler sued that company and forced them to redesign the front end because it infringed on Chryslers Trademark (they have that design trade maked).

This is all about Trademark protection, not copyrights. No company out there with a recongnizable trademark is going to sit back while someone else makes money off of the trademark without first getting permission. That includes all the other car manufacturers, so if this episode with Ford is going to move them to you sh** list then I suggest you quit driving because GM, Chrisler, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Kia, Mitsubishi, et.al. would all have done the same thing.
01/23/2008 04:41:02 PM · #94
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
So it wasn't Ford at fault, it was CafePress trying to protect someone else' copyright.

Now where are the apologies for Ford, and do we want to burn CafePress at the stake without a trial (and apparently all the information)?

I see a WITCH! Lets go get her! Follow me!


Does she weigh as much as a duck?
 01/24/2008 08:27:40 AM · #95
Originally posted by AllgoodPics:
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Correct. However, beyond the trademarked logo I believe that the design is automatically copyrighted and thus protected from reproduction.


There was a case a few years ago where one of the Korean (I think) auto manufacturers released a small SUV that had a front end (grill) that looked strikingly like the front end of a Jeep Cherokee. Chrysler sued that company and forced them to redesign the front end because it infringed on Chryslers Trademark (they have that design trade maked).

This is all about Trademark protection, not copyrights. No company out there with a recongnizable trademark is going to sit back while someone else makes money off of the trademark without first getting permission. That includes all the other car manufacturers, so if this episode with Ford is going to move them to you sh** list then I suggest you quit driving because GM, Chrisler, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Kia, Mitsubishi, et.al. would all have done the same thing.


Yep, same with Lotus:

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=731120

You can't see the badge in my photo but the said they own the design. Persoanlly I think it's a crap attitude to take with loyal customers of their products.

Also, what about the street question above, if you take a picture of a street do you have to get permission from many people before you can sell a print?

Message edited by author 2008-01-24 08:28:16.
 01/24/2008 02:19:17 PM · #96
Someone is pushing the envelope ... ;-)
 01/24/2008 02:29:38 PM · #97
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Someone is pushing the envelope ... ;-)

I get a website cannot be found message - they obviously pushed too far!
 01/24/2008 02:35:24 PM · #98
That link should just bring up an image in a new window. This link should go to the photo(shopping) contest it's from.
 01/24/2008 02:39:13 PM · #99
That works - and worth the click!
 01/24/2008 02:53:54 PM · #100
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Someone is pushing the envelope ... ;-)


All safe from law suits... parody has traditionally been immune to copyright/trademark infringement. Some funny stuff in the other link :-D
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