Black&white + colour - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

10/04/2003 08:25:32 AM · #1

How are you doing those photos that are mainly black & white but has one part of it in colour?Is it allowed in dpchallange to send those kinds of photos?
Here is the example
I usualy use Photoshop 7 and Paint Shop Pro 8.
Thanx in advance.

melking

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III

10/04/2003 08:39:58 AM · #2

I use PhotoShop 7 also...
All i do is use the Hue/Saturation tool under the Image/Adjustment tool bar
All I do is pick the colors I don't want in the Photo and put -100 as the Saturation value.

I am sure there are many ways to do this but that is what I do!

medic391

Canon PowerShot SX20 IS

10/04/2003 08:43:26 AM · #3

open a picture in photoshop. click on layer and select new adjustment layer. then click on hue/saturation. check the box to group with previous layer and ok. you should see the hue/saturation adjustment box. at the top it should say master. click on the drop down arrow and select a color. move the saturation slider all the way to the left and look at the results. when you are finished, click on layers again and flatten image. then save as or save for web. I hope this helps

10/04/2003 10:52:52 AM · #4

Thank you!

10/04/2003 02:04:54 PM · #5

hey, thats my photo ;}

the NECR one actually wasnt done with hue/saturation
and wouldn't be enterable in a contest here but,

i cut out the windows - pasted them into a new image
desaturated the original and pasted the color
windows back into the original - that way i was able to keep the colors
in the windows true...

soup

10/04/2003 02:21:49 PM · #6

In my opinion, this should be seen as spot editing and be illegal, as it strictly speaking isn't a "colour adjustment" done on the whole of an image: It only adjusts the selective colours in an image.

When that has been said, I did write an article on c -> b&w, which you might be interested in. Not the same thing, obviously, but... eh.. yeh.

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 14:26:16.

10/04/2003 02:23:30 PM · #7

well i didnt enter it in anything did i?

come arrest me

soup

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 14:23:41.

10/04/2003 02:26:56 PM · #8

Originally posted by soup:

well i didnt enter it in anything did i?

come arrest me

Whoh - hold your horses, I didn't mean to insult you - just expressing my opinion on site policy. If anyone should be offended, it should be the site council (and I know them as some hard-nosed people, so I'm sure they can handle the criticism.)

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 14:28:06.

10/04/2003 02:30:05 PM · #9

not upset - just saying
i can do anything with an image - as long as the ones i enter here aren't spot edited or modifyied out side DPC's guidelines

and i figured i would explain how it was done - seeing as it's my image - and wasnt done the way described earlier

soup

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 14:33:53.

10/04/2003 02:32:53 PM · #10

good article BTW...

soup

10/04/2003 02:33:04 PM · #11

Originally posted by soup:

not upset - just saying
i can do anything with an image - as long as the ones i enter here aren't spot edited or modifyied out side DPC's guidelines

My opinion: I think it is rubbish
Site guidelines: It is legal

... Submit away ;-)

Originally posted by soup:

good article BTW...

Why thank you for saying so. I'm working on updating it, but I'm down to my ears in film cutting / splicing at the moment, so it might take a little time.

HJ

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 14:34:50.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/04/2003 02:35:18 PM · #12

come again?
what's rubbish - the photo? err
not sure what you mean

soup

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

10/04/2003 03:47:45 PM · #13

SharQ, thanx for the tutorial. I do use the channel mixer but I usually just slide around till I see something I like. But the way you have explained it will help me not to "just slide" in future. Cheers!

cykhansen

Canon PowerShot G1

10/04/2003 03:59:28 PM · #14

SharQ -- I think you should be more careful how you write - that photo isn't rubbish at all.

I'd be surprised if that is what you mean; on the other hand there's no other meaning to take from your note.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

10/04/2003 04:14:33 PM · #15

I didn't want to start this theme to cause a fight.So stop fighting about it, I just wanted to know is it legal to submit that kind of photo in the dpchallange.I have noticed that it was spot editing so I just wanted to ask.
SO thanx!

faidoi

Pentax K10D

10/04/2003 04:41:39 PM · #16

Here's my explanation from another thread with examples on what's legal and what's not.

PaulMdx

Canon EOS-1D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

10/04/2003 04:49:53 PM · #17

Originally posted by SharQ:

Originally posted by soup:
not upset - just saying
i can do anything with an image - as long as the ones i enter here aren't spot edited or modifyied out side DPC's guidelines

My opinion: I think it is rubbish
Site guidelines: It is legal

... Submit away ;-)

In SharQ's defense, before he gets lynched...

We can assume the 'it' from "it is rubbish" and "it is legal" is in fact the same pronoun. Hence, 'it' would be referring to B&W+colouring, rather than soup's shot.

10/04/2003 04:59:45 PM · #18

anyhow i made it clear in my post that it wasn't an enterable photo.
i didnt take any offense - to sharQ's comment - but didnt understand what was meant by it...

it would have been hard to keep the array of colors in that particular image - using the channels and saturation tools
i took it before i joined here.

between the conflicting lines, and the color on the windows - i found it
intriguing. looked better B&W

soup

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 17:00:49.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

10/04/2003 06:58:45 PM · #19

Originally posted by faidoi:

Here's my explanation from another thread with examples on what's legal and what's not.

Thanx faidoi, your thread realy helped alot.

Imagineer

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

10/04/2003 07:52:54 PM · #20

This shot would be legal (using just desaturation on all channels except cyan).

The original is here:

Which do you prefer out of interest?

faidoi

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

10/04/2003 07:59:27 PM · #21

What a difference of mood that the color one is compared to the colored one. The colored one looks too busy, especially with the peoples' clothes being very similar to the color of the transporter. Great shots.

Left comment.Thanks for sharing.

Message edited by author 2003-10-04 20:10:29.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

10/04/2003 10:34:31 PM · #22

i prefer the B&W one

so should images done in other ways not be posted here?

soup

Imagineer

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

10/05/2003 04:55:02 AM · #23

Originally posted by soup:

so should images done in other ways not be posted here?

I'm not sure what you mean, but I think anything should be posted here if it helps people learn about colour adjustment like this - DPC legal or otherwise. ;)

10/05/2003 07:40:16 AM · #24

Originally posted by soup:

come again?
what's rubbish - the photo? err
not sure what you mean

For a journalist, I seem to be shockingly uneloquent. I thought it'd be obvious fromt he context, but both the "it's legal" and the "it's rubbish" was referring to the site rules, and both sentences could be written together as "my personal opinion is that the fact that this would be a legal image to submit is rubbish. However, it is legal, so go for it, if you want".

Or, as someone else said it further up: "We can assume the 'it' from "it is rubbish" and "it is legal" is in fact the same pronoun. Hence, 'it' would be referring to B&W+colouring, rather than soup's shot"

As for your picture:
It certainly isn't rubbish, but it leaves a lot of things to be desired. For one thing, the barrel distortion really gets on my tits. The building looks rounded. If you had walked 15 meters further back and zoomed in a little, you'd probably have gotten rid of it. Furthermore, while a nice touch, I don't think the addition of the blue squares in form of the windows adds anything to the image overall.

The symmetry of the whole thing is pretty cool, but the picture appears slightly unsharp, the picture seems to lack a focal point, and nothing is happening in the picture. If you had shoved your camera on a tripod, used a reasonably long shutter time (1/15 should have done it) and had someone dressed in an old-fashioned costume walk across, preferably towards one of the sides, either walking into or out of the picture (I'd probably place them on the left of the pic, walking out, but that is just my sense of dynamic), at least you'd have something happening.

HJ