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12/26/2007 04:28:54 PM · #1
Just want to double check.

Say, if I used a piece of fishing line to suspend something for a shot. I'm pretty sure it's legal, as in scalvert's "Light Reading", unless there has been a rule change since then, it has been over a year, I think. The line wouldn't be very visible to start with.

Thanks! :-)
12/26/2007 04:33:33 PM · #2
You roll the dice, you takes your chances.

That's probably the best answer available.
12/26/2007 04:34:34 PM · #3
A minimally-visible line or wire has pretty much always been deemed legal.
12/26/2007 05:15:44 PM · #4
I was under the impression that would kinda fit within the parameters of changing the scope of the image.

If it does, it isn't legal, if it doesn't, go for it.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
12/26/2007 05:16:56 PM · #5
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

You roll the dice, you takes your chances.


Doc, for added oomph, try this:
Ya rolls da dice, ya takes yer chances.

;)
12/26/2007 05:17:13 PM · #6
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I was under the impression that would kinda fit within the parameters of changing the scope of the image.

If it does, it isn't legal, if it doesn't, go for it.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!


yeah, what he says!
12/26/2007 05:42:16 PM · #7
In Paragraph B, subsection 1a, acceptable lines allowed to be cloned out are as follows, but not limited to:

* Low voltage - less than 1000 volts, used for connection between a residential or small commercial customer and the utility.
* Medium Voltage - between 1000 volts (1 kV) and to about 33 kV, used for distribution in urban and rural areas
* High Voltage - between 33 kV and about 230 kV, used for sub-transmission and transmission of bulk quantities of electric power and connection to very large consumers.
* Extra High Voltage - over 230 kV, up to about 800 kV - long distance, very high power transmission.
* Ultra High Voltage - 800 kV and up

* All items subject to minimum physical distance from the wires in question as the closer they are to the focal plane of the camera vs. the focal length of the lens in use, can affect the percentage of pixels captured in a single shutter release. Void where prohibited.

Note: United Kingdom, Norway, Sweden, Urban Spain, Australia prohibit transmission lines near residences, so these members need not worry unless traveling outside of their residential areas. Maximum distance from residences shall be determined by GPS co-ordinates and must be included in the EXIF data when submitting to a challenge.

12/26/2007 05:57:01 PM · #8
Originally posted by Brad:

In Paragraph B, subsection 1a, acceptable lines allowed to be cloned out are as follows, but not limited to:

* Low voltage - less than 1000 volts, used for connection between a residential or small commercial customer and the utility.
* Medium Voltage - between 1000 volts (1 kV) and to about 33 kV, used for distribution in urban and rural areas
* High Voltage - between 33 kV and about 230 kV, used for sub-transmission and transmission of bulk quantities of electric power and connection to very large consumers.
* Extra High Voltage - over 230 kV, up to about 800 kV - long distance, very high power transmission.
* Ultra High Voltage - 800 kV and up

* All items subject to minimum physical distance from the wires in question as the closer they are to the focal plane of the camera vs. the focal length of the lens in use, can affect the percentage of pixels captured in a single shutter release. Void where prohibited.

Note: United Kingdom, Norway, Sweden, Urban Spain, Australia prohibit transmission lines near residences, so these members need not worry unless traveling outside of their residential areas. Maximum distance from residences shall be determined by GPS co-ordinates and must be included in the EXIF data when submitting to a challenge.


DANG.............
12/26/2007 06:15:15 PM · #9
LMAO!
12/26/2007 06:18:40 PM · #10
What about fungal disorders? Are we allowed to clone out any fungus or unappreciated bacteria? Purely medical curiosity.
12/26/2007 06:35:58 PM · #11
Originally posted by idnic:

What about fungal disorders? Are we allowed to clone out any fungus or unappreciated bacteria? Purely medical curiosity.

Well you have to appreciate the bacteria regardless.

I did a little research, and in Chapter 2, Paragraph 4, the following conditions can be cloned out, but again, check with the Site Council Member of your choosing for a final ruling, as the updates to the Rules & Regulations may not be in print yet:

* Keratosis pilaris alba : rough, dry, bumpy skin with no irritation
* Keratosis pilaris rubra : reddened lesions; red, inflamed bumps
* Keratosis pilaris rubra faceii (KPRF) : reddish rash on the cheeks (blushed look)
* Keratosis pilaris atrophicans faciei: facial follicular atrophy (small scar-like depressions)
* Keratosis follicularis (Darier Disease) aka lichen pilaris, or follicular xeroderma: conditions in which abnormal keratinization (failure of skin to desquamate properly) is limited to the hair follicles, manifesting itself as discrete, tiny follicular papules (solid, usually conical elevations)
* Ulerythema ophryogenes : involvement of the outer eyebrows
* Atrophoderma vermiculata : severe worm-eaten appearance of the cheeks
* Keratosis follicularis spinulosa decalvans: a rare familial variant which results in bald areas on the scalp and eyebrows
* Lichen spinulosus : solitary or multiple patches of follicular papules topped with scaly spines on any part of the body

There is a clause to this though, in that if the fungal infection was aggravated by electric lines as described in Paragraph B, subsection 1a, there is no pixel limitation regarding it's removal, but please bring a note from your Doctor.
12/26/2007 06:51:32 PM · #12
Brad, you are so helpful! 2 gold stars for you!
12/26/2007 06:55:08 PM · #13
Originally posted by Brad:

Originally posted by idnic:

What about fungal disorders? Are we allowed to clone out any fungus or unappreciated bacteria? Purely medical curiosity.

Well you have to appreciate the bacteria regardless.

I did a little research, and in Chapter 2, Paragraph 4, the following conditions can be cloned out, but again, check with the Site Council Member of your choosing for a final ruling, as the updates to the Rules & Regulations may not be in print yet:

* Keratosis pilaris alba : rough, dry, bumpy skin with no irritation
* Keratosis pilaris rubra : reddened lesions; red, inflamed bumps
* Keratosis pilaris rubra faceii (KPRF) : reddish rash on the cheeks (blushed look)
* Keratosis pilaris atrophicans faciei: facial follicular atrophy (small scar-like depressions)
* Keratosis follicularis (Darier Disease) aka lichen pilaris, or follicular xeroderma: conditions in which abnormal keratinization (failure of skin to desquamate properly) is limited to the hair follicles, manifesting itself as discrete, tiny follicular papules (solid, usually conical elevations)
* Ulerythema ophryogenes : involvement of the outer eyebrows
* Atrophoderma vermiculata : severe worm-eaten appearance of the cheeks
* Keratosis follicularis spinulosa decalvans: a rare familial variant which results in bald areas on the scalp and eyebrows
* Lichen spinulosus : solitary or multiple patches of follicular papules topped with scaly spines on any part of the body

There is a clause to this though, in that if the fungal infection was aggravated by electric lines as described in Paragraph B, subsection 1a, there is no pixel limitation regarding it's removal, but please bring a note from your Doctor.


SC please move this thread to Personal Life. TX ;)
12/26/2007 07:01:06 PM · #14
12/26/2007 07:36:44 PM · #15
Originally posted by karmat:


Go ahead and invite him........just tell him it's the day after the actual meeting.
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