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 12/19/2007 05:16:31 PM · #26
Originally posted by smurfguy:
I personally have found myself cropping shots oddly or considering square just to make it bigger on the screen. In this case, it seems the site rules are unduly influencing creativity, or favoring those who naturally use more square aspects.

I have to agree with Gordon.


I shoot with square crop in mind.. it has evolved into my style most of the time now, a style born out of the restrictions on the site, like life, the more successful species are the ones who adapt to their surroundings and the limitations imposed upon them. But then again, some people dont have a style of their own.

Message edited by author 2007-12-19 17:17:03.
 12/19/2007 05:44:49 PM · #27
Originally posted by Simms:

I shoot with square crop in mind.. it has evolved into my style most of the time now, a style born out of the restrictions on the site, like life, the more successful species are the ones who adapt to their surroundings and the limitations imposed upon them. But then again, some people dont have a style of their own.


You could name it DPC Dawinism:)
 12/19/2007 07:21:45 PM · #28
Originally posted by smurfguy:
I personally have found myself cropping shots oddly or considering square just to make it bigger on the screen. In this case, it seems the site rules are unduly influencing creativity, or favoring those who naturally use more square aspects.

I have to agree with Gordon.


[personal opinion]
Honestly I've done the same thing. There are quite a number of my submissions that would not have been cropped square but for the fact that maximizing viewing area meant cropping square, or at least nearly so.
It's ironic that our goal in making the height and width limits equal is to *not* bias folks toward either portrait or landscape orientation, but the result is to strongly bias submitted images toward square, which is an unusual format to be sure.
While I don't think Gordon's suggestion is easy to implement, the general line of thought has merit.
[/personal opinion]
 12/19/2007 08:34:27 PM · #29
Originally posted by Simms:
Possibly the most pathetic suggestion ever.. I am a lover of square crop, the reason being that ones images do indeed look bigger and therefore have more of an impact. Sometimes I think people make suggestions just to get exposure for themselves in the forums and sure enough the bleating sheep bounce along happily behind..

If your shots are scoring worse, maybe they are just crap shots..

laughable.


You're contradicting yourself. You acknowledge that the square crop has more impact because it looks bigger, then say that someone suggesting an "area rule" to negate the advantage of one arbitrary crop over another is is just trying to "get attention"...

R.
 12/19/2007 08:35:22 PM · #30
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by rich:
I would disagree there, I think anyone who can adhere to the fairly extensive rulesets on this site won't be fazed by multiplying two numbers.


Maybe you're right. I donno. Might be worth a try. BUT there's a coding issue, of course; right now it's coded to simple max dimensions, and that would have to change to a code that multiplied and used max area. I have no idea if that's an easy task.

R.


God help us if you ever get on SC Rob.


And what, exactly, is that supposed to mean? I find myself taking offense, not that they are ever likely to put a loose cannon like me on SC anyway...

R.
 12/19/2007 08:55:54 PM · #31
My suggestion (apologies to those who've heard it before, is to allow photos by total length + height. It's much easier than working with areas, because most people can think, ok, 640x480 is allowed, so 540x580, or 740x380. Very easy to work out some basic sizings.

I agree with still putting maximum limits, say 640 limit on height, 800 limit on width.

In catering for panoramas, I think it's probably best to leave the existing rules, and just add the exception for minimum confusion. So, 640 max (current ruleset), or for panoramas, the width can be >640, up to 800, but total h+W must be less than 1120 (640x480 equiv). This option has the current ruleset, but does allow a special clause for wider/lower panorama shots, so we can see more of them.

I do like panoramas, but they are certainly disadvantaged at the moment.

12/19/2007 09:13:51 PM · #32
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Simms:
Possibly the most pathetic suggestion ever.. I am a lover of square crop, the reason being that ones images do indeed look bigger and therefore have more of an impact. Sometimes I think people make suggestions just to get exposure for themselves in the forums and sure enough the bleating sheep bounce along happily behind..

If your shots are scoring worse, maybe they are just crap shots..

laughable.


You're contradicting yourself. You acknowledge that the square crop has more impact because it looks bigger, then say that someone suggesting an "area rule" to negate the advantage of one arbitrary crop over another is is just trying to "get attention"...

R.


You're joking right?
 12/19/2007 09:14:12 PM · #33
Originally posted by surfdabbler:
My suggestion (apologies to those who've heard it before, is to allow photos by total length + height. It's much easier than working with areas, because most people can think, ok, 640x480 is allowed, so 540x580, or 740x380. Very easy to work out some basic sizings.

I agree with still putting maximum limits, say 640 limit on height, 800 limit on width.

In catering for panoramas, I think it's probably best to leave the existing rules, and just add the exception for minimum confusion. So, 640 max (current ruleset), or for panoramas, the width can be >640, up to 800, but total h+W must be less than 1120 (640x480 equiv). This option has the current ruleset, but does allow a special clause for wider/lower panorama shots, so we can see more of them.

I do like panoramas, but they are certainly disadvantaged at the moment.


By far the better idea.
 12/19/2007 09:18:17 PM · #34
"I shoot with square crop in mind.. it has evolved into my style most of the time now, a style born out of the restrictions on the site, like life, the more successful species are the ones who adapt to their surroundings and the limitations imposed upon them. But then again, some people dont have a style of their own."

"people on here continually want to move the goalposts and make it harder for people who have adapted to limitations suffer as they don't have the foresight and artistic talent to use the rules to their advantage."

Wow - Simms - chill out, and take a look at what you are saying...

Do you consider yourself a photographer or a slave to DPC? - the former is creative artist the latter is competition addict who just happens to have a camera. Lighten up for starters and secondly read what you are saying - it sounds like a bit of conservatism because you dont like change (and change may i add is something you tout as something good as you have to have creative talent to "adapt" - so why not embrace it?) as well as a bit of the sentiment: "i gots meself a load of ribbons coz i know how and am used to it, so quit whining bitz coz i pwn j00!"

I wont enter into an online argument about this, as that just takes things into the realm of stupidity, but thought i might say a peice here for you to think about.

Personally i think it is a good idea, as square crops actually limit creativity in photography if what you want to do is do well on a site which rewards good photography...
 12/26/2007 04:07:57 PM · #35
Wow, go away for Christmas and see what happens on a thread you start! merry christmas everyone. It is very interesting how the 640x640 plays out on the monitor looking much taller than wider. Glad there were opinions on this matter!

Ben
 12/26/2007 04:14:33 PM · #36
I like big square pictures, they look really big and bright and shiny!

I try to use big square pictures when I can, cos they look really big and...

640x640 is good. 720x720 would be betterer!

Think that's all I have to say at the mo...
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