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12/17/2007 12:01:08 PM · #1
I was wondering if anyone knows what Photoshop offers for photographers that Paintshop Pro does not. Theres a lot of things in PS that I do not need and I was wondering what I would be missing if I switched to PSP X2. I am now using PS CS and have been using PS for a very long time, however the cost of the upgrades is starting to get to me. before I venture into CS 3 teritory, I was hoping to get some opinion on PSP X2.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin
12/17/2007 12:06:55 PM · #2
Is there a reason you need to upgrade from PS CS?
12/17/2007 05:58:17 PM · #3
I know there are some new tools in the later versions. I don't feel the need to upgrade to every version but now there on CS 3. I am happy with CS , but like I said I am aware of some of the newer tools.
12/17/2007 06:11:02 PM · #4
I started off using PSP but found that nearly all tutorials, tips, tricks, plug-ins, free goodies etc etc etc were for Photoshop.

PSP is a very good program, but Photoshop is THE one and I'm glad I made the switch.
12/17/2007 06:16:40 PM · #5
I've never tried PSP, but PS CS isn't that much different than CS3. If you have a specific CS3 or PSP feature that you must have (better raw conversion, for example), you might find it worthwhile to upgrade. Otherwise, there isn't really that much difference between CS and CS3, and if you already know Photoshop, I doubt you'd be happier having to learn PSP. But trial versions of both are available, so you can try them and make your own decision.
12/17/2007 07:05:08 PM · #6
if u've been using PS for years, then switching to PSP is going to cause you all kinds of headaches!
12/17/2007 07:32:23 PM · #7
I'm a PSP X2 user, and it's a great piece of software. I've used a trial version of PhotoShop, and they are different. Being used to PSP, there are a lot of little differences, and I didn't like the way somethings worked in PS. So, if you are used to PhotoShop, you will probably find the same things going the other way.

As for specific features you might miss going to PSP, most of it is there in slightly different forms, but in terms of plugins, you won't find much at all for PSP compared to PS. All the good plugins are PS only. On the other hand, PSP has inbuilt noise reduction and HDR. I use the NR all the time, in preference to standalone Noise Ninja. NN does a slightly better job, but for the ease of use, the PSP NR is just too handy to bother with NN. If I had PS, NN would be a plugin, so I'd use that. :) However, the panorama stitching in CS3 is supposed to be amazing, and PSP has nothing like that.

PSP is certainly going to be cheaper, but changing software is a big decision. If you really want to switch, download the trial for 30 days and see how it goes first.
12/17/2007 09:21:26 PM · #8
Originally posted by annpatt:

...but PS CS isn't that much different than CS3. If you have a specific CS3 or PSP feature that you must have (better raw conversion, for example), you might find it worthwhile to upgrade. Otherwise, there isn't really that much difference between CS and CS3...

I hate to disagree. there is a ton of difference in CS and CS3, unless you are talking about interface, but then they are still suppose to be the same. I went from CS to CS3, and gained alot of things I didn't have before and am glad I did.
12/17/2007 09:28:42 PM · #9

I hate to disagree. there is a ton of difference in CS and CS3, unless you are talking about interface, but then they are still suppose to be the same. I went from CS to CS3, and gained alot of things I didn't have before and am glad I did. [/quote]

OK so what are the big differences between CS and CS3, if you don't mind

12/17/2007 10:01:51 PM · #10
Well..for one reason..."Of course, if you think you're going to outgrow it and will be upgrading to something better later, keep in mind that Adobe will only allow you (I think) to "upgrades" versions that are no more than 2 major releases below the version you're upgrading to, i.e. you could upgrade CS to CS3, but you couldn't upgrade Photoshop 6 to CS3. You'd have to buy a full version of the software at that point, instead."
Another, just starts with Bridge and and the ACR. Do a session and note that you have a few dust spots. Open all them in the session and use the Retouch (Spot Removal) tool to fix them all at once. Also increased control over the image within ACR, with Fill Light, Recovery (blown areas), Vibrance, Tone Curve, HSL, etc.
Within PS...Smart Objects, much improved Smart Sharpen and Curves....as a few.
12/18/2007 09:20:42 PM · #11
I wanted to say thanks for all the input. I did download the trial version of PSP X2 and went looking for the healing brush, well it was not to be found. It did have a make over tool that was kind of the same but not quite. I have 30 days to play so I guess I'll use that time wisely and experiment. To be honest I started using PS back in to e early 90's I actually got to use a beta version of it. I originally brought Photoshop LE then upgraded to version 6 then 7 then CS. I guess I'm always just searching for something new.
12/18/2007 09:45:01 PM · #12
Originally posted by iamkmaniam:

... I did download the trial version of PSP X2 and went looking for the healing brush, well it was not to be found. It did have a make over tool that was kind of the same but not quite. ...

Did you try using the Clone or Scratch Remover tools (scratch remover works on more than just "scratches/lines"). They are the next set of tools below the Makeover one (which I've never used, he-he).
12/18/2007 10:27:15 PM · #13
Maker over tool is where you find the Healing Brush (blemish tool). When you click Make Over tool from the Vertical Menu, you will have Blemish Tool, Toothbrush, Eye drops, Suntan Brush and thining tool on the Horizontal tool bar above your shot. Blemish Tool works great, keep it just bigger than the area you are trying to fix.

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 22:38:03.
12/18/2007 10:35:58 PM · #14
I use the new Blemish tool a LOT in X2 because it often works so much easier than the clone tool, particularly on a gradient surface, where it handles it all without fuss.

I still use the clone tool in situations where the other options (blemish, scratch or object remover) don't quite fit the scenario for a good result.

I've used the suntan tool as well, because it's pretty easy to use and gives a nice result, but as for the eye drops and toothbrush, I haven't got great results from these yet, so I still use my old dodging methods to fix them manually.


Message edited by author 2007-12-18 22:38:31.
12/18/2007 10:41:34 PM · #15
Also Try this on a boring flat snapshot sometime with PSP X2

Adjust > Brightness and Contrast > Clarify... (amount between 2-5)

Tell me that don't rock... :)

Other somewhat overlooked coolness:

X2 has Skin Smoothing and a Decent Digital Camera Noise reduction but under Adjust > Add/Remove Noise

Edge Preserving Smooth and Texture Preserving Smooth come in handy often as well.

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 22:51:07.
12/18/2007 10:44:43 PM · #16
Clarify IS a great tool, use it frequently. I can see I need to experiment with the Blemish (and related) tools some. Great tips - Thanks. :-)
12/18/2007 10:50:27 PM · #17
My other PSP tip is to use the Alt key. Alt-click and drag to change the size of the brush dynamically. You can see the size of the brush and drag it to the size you want. It's so much quicker than the sizing controls on the toolbar, and you can dynamically size the brush easily to suit each blemish.
12/18/2007 10:51:46 PM · #18
I used to play PS2 a lot, but then I bought an X-Box 360.
12/19/2007 02:13:04 AM · #19
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Clarify IS a great tool, use it frequently. I can see I need to experiment with the Blemish (and related) tools some. Great tips - Thanks. :-)


CS3 has that one in the ACR...very sweet!
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