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Fujifilm XC 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OIS

12/18/2007 12:15:42 AM · #1

that the scrubbers work.

I have a hard time believing it.

FocusPoint

XIAOMI Redmi Note 8 Pro

12/18/2007 12:17:58 AM · #2

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

that the scrubbers work.

I have a hard time believing it.

Why do I have this feeling you just opened the Pandora's box :P

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 00:18:11.

buzzrock

Fujifilm X-M1

12/18/2007 12:18:02 AM · #3

Whats a scrubber?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

12/18/2007 12:19:49 AM · #4

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
that the scrubbers work.

I have a hard time believing it.

Why do I have this feeling you just opened the Pandora's box :P

I wanna see proof of these mystical scrubbers. I wanna see charts, graphs.. videos of mass executions... something...

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

12/18/2007 12:28:27 AM · #5

There was a thread last week about someone who lost his votes to the scrubber.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

12/18/2007 12:33:11 AM · #6

Originally posted by karmat:

There was a thread last week about someone who lost his votes to the scrubber.

Sp... it should be easy to show that with actual numbers then... and not just the 20% limit...

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

12/18/2007 12:34:26 AM · #7

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by karmat:
There was a thread last week about someone who lost his votes to the scrubber.

Sp... it should be easy to show that with actual numbers then... and not just the 20% limit...

huh? I don't understand what you are wanting.

Nikon AF Nikkor 28-85mm 1:3.5-4.5

12/18/2007 12:39:13 AM · #8

Simple...

I want to see numbers (formulas, whatever) that prove the scrubbers do what they are purported to do... ie scrub troll votes, friend votes...

The scrubbers are as mystical as the things they are said to protect against.

electrolost

Nikon D200

12/18/2007 12:40:17 AM · #9

well They cleaned my shower pretty good never tried then in my camera though

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

12/18/2007 12:41:01 AM · #10

I've personally seen the scrubber in action. Several low votes (a few high ones too) are eliminated at rollover on practically challenge. Most are for failure to meet 20%, but some are for obvious attempts to influence the vote. We could tell you the formula, but then we'd have to kill you.

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 00:52:05.

Pedro

Nikon D200

12/18/2007 12:48:39 AM · #11

why don't you tell us why you're really asking, then you might get an answer that actually matters? Is it your SP 1 that's upsetting you? Cuz dude seriously...I (and many others) have had shots that won ribbons that received at least 5 ones. I think its a combination of personal taste and unabashed insecurity. Either way, ain't no mathematical formula that can sort that messed up s*** out. 1000 monkey counselors with 1000 typewriters might eventually answer this question.

12/18/2007 12:55:09 AM · #12

Nah... that one I just contribute to some random asshole... I just like proof when asked to believe something is working, that;s all. And why it's supposed to work...

12/18/2007 12:58:35 AM · #13

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Nah... that one I just contribute to some random asshole... I just like proof when asked to believe something is working, that;s all. And why it's supposed to work...

If you'd like proof, I can post an example of your votes getting tossed. ;-)

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

12/18/2007 01:03:45 AM · #14

Originally posted by karmat:

There was a thread last week about someone who lost his votes to the scrubber.

I lost everything to the scrubber - at least 23 ribbon-winning challenge entries over the past 3 years that just "vanished" at rollover. When I protested, my posts also vanished and one morning I woke up with a horse head in my bed (granted, it was one of those plastic ones on a stick they sell to toddlers). So I was scared and I kept my mouth shut - but then my bank accounts were "scrubbed" - and it's just a little too convenient to blame it on the fact that I wrote checks for more money than I had in the bank. No, I'm certain it was the work of the scrubber. Well now I'm speaking ou-----------------------

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

12/18/2007 01:07:13 AM · #15

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Nah... that one I just contribute to some random asshole... I just like proof when asked to believe something is working, that;s all. And why it's supposed to work...

If you'd like proof, I can post an example of your votes getting tossed. ;-)

OK, I'm cool with that...I know I'm no Saint...

but I want break downs as to why.... yes, I know there were those friend votes. :-D

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 01:07:43.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

12/18/2007 01:07:32 AM · #16

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by karmat:
There was a thread last week about someone who lost his votes to the scrubber.

I lost everything to the scrubber - at least 23 ribbon-winning challenge entries over the past 3 years that just "vanished" at rollover. When I protested, my posts also vanished and one morning I woke up with a horse head in my bed (granted, it was one of those plastic ones on a stick they sell to toddlers). So I was scared and I kept my mouth shut - but then my bank accounts were "scrubbed" - and it's just a little too convenient to blame it on the fact that I wrote checks for more money than I had in the bank. No, I'm certain it was the work of the scrubber. Well now I'm speaking out and I'm gonna spam-bomb every SC member until they beg for me for mercy. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Here ya go, Art. I managed to recover your post for ya, including even the part at the end that seemed irretrievable.

12/18/2007 01:13:44 AM · #17

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
If you'd like proof, I can post an example of your votes getting tossed. ;-)

OK, I'm cool with that...I know I'm no Saint...

but I want break downs as to why.... yes, I know there were those friend votes. :-D

Well, with friends like these... (I'll let you figure out why they were tossed). :-/

12/18/2007 01:19:18 AM · #18

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
If you'd like proof, I can post an example of your votes getting tossed. ;-)

OK, I'm cool with that...I know I'm no Saint...

but I want break downs as to why.... yes, I know there were those friend votes. :-D

Well, with friends like these... (I'll let you figure out why they were tossed). :-/

OK, that shows troll voting scrubbers work... lol...

I still say that DQ was bogus :-P

12/18/2007 01:23:21 AM · #19

O'm curious... does it ever not throw out all the voter's votes? The votes counted area seems to indicate it does... but what would be a scenario?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

12/18/2007 01:26:17 AM · #20

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

O'm curious... does it ever not throw out all the voter's votes?

If a malicious pattern is detected, they all go. The scrubber wouldn't know which votes were legitimate.

killjoy181

Canon EOS-30D

12/18/2007 01:29:47 AM · #21

Here is A case of scrubbers in the unseen challenge final Votes: 198 in my tracking of the votes I had 205 so 7 votes were scrubbed I received no 1-2 these may have been the scrubbed ones, in any case something is working!

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 01:30:44.

Venom

Canon EOS R

Canon RF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

12/18/2007 01:36:34 AM · #22

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

that the scrubbers work.

I have a hard time believing it.

I've been running a score tracker(excel spreadsheet) while I have challenges running. I'll post some screen shots here to back up my post. I had, at one time during the voting process, 317 votes on my "Self Portrait" entry.

After the roll over the tracker calculates the "final score" & "final vote count" and told me that I lost a total of 6 votes with an average score of 4.3366 each. Is this what you're asking for?