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12/12/2007 07:09:39 AM · #1 |
I thought these were two very interesting challenges.
Fairy Tales blew me away with the number of high quality pictures, I gave out more high scores than ever. Great job to everyone who participated in that challenge!!
Seeing the Unseen, on the other hand, I felt was a bit of a let down. I think there were a lot of images, that at least to me, were VERY DNMC. "Create a photo in which the viewer can 'see' the 'unseen.'" Maybe it was just my voting but I had my highest voted shots come in at the bottom, and some of my lowest come in the top 10.
Is this just me? |
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12/23/2007 12:02:55 PM · #2 |
I completely agree with you mate;
Chicken Sex
I think this should have done better, if only for comedy value - very clever.
Message edited by author 2007-12-23 21:37:36. |
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12/23/2007 12:21:01 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by JBHale:
I thought these were two very interesting challenges.
Fairy Tales blew me away with the number of high quality pictures, I gave out more high scores than ever. Great job to everyone who participated in that challenge!!
Seeing the Unseen, on the other hand, I felt was a bit of a let down. I think there were a lot of images, that at least to me, were VERY DNMC. "Create a photo in which the viewer can 'see' the 'unseen.'" Maybe it was just my voting but I had my highest voted shots come in at the bottom, and some of my lowest come in the top 10.
Is this just me? |
It is not just you. I am amazed at what people regard as unseen. My interpretation was to photograph what cannot be seen by the naked eye. I also thought of the unseen being implied but I couldn't get there myself. |
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12/23/2007 12:53:38 PM · #4 |
| I think the challenge topic was a a tough concept to put into a picture. The very phrase "see the unseen" is an oxymoron, if it's seen then it's not unseen. Conceptual challenges tend to have a wide spectrum of interpetation. This leads to voters who have a set idea on what the concept is to claim that others didn't meet the challenge. I feel that there were many great ideas in the challenge, but hats just opinion. Trevor~ |
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12/23/2007 01:02:26 PM · #5 |
I disagree. Flipping through the top 20 of "Seeing the Unseen," I saw:
- a hawk's blink (ever seen that happen?)
- a bird's tongue catching a raindrop
- a fish that was so well camouflaged I had trouble finding it
- a couple of shots catching things falling into water (yes, it's a DPC cliche, but it's still something very hard to see with the naked eye,and it still makes cool shots)
- water tension, which is a pretty abstract concept to convey visually
Yes, there were a few in there I would've thought DNMC, but I think there was plenty of inspiration in the top scorers.
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12/23/2007 09:10:14 PM · #6 |
I'll agree with the blinking hawk and the bird's tongue catching a raindrop.
I cannot agree with the items dropped into the water because of photography and all the times we've seen variations on the theme. Granted they are amazing and every time I see one I am a bit awe struck.
The fish was easy for me to see but the photo was still worth merit technically.
Water tension is a bit abstract and equally hard to convey. So I am in agreement here or so it seems.
Photographing the unseen is extremely abstract concept as well. One comment on mine is how could you take a picture of it if it is unseen. Could it be that I happen to have learned to look for the right conditions for the particular happen? Or am I screwy in the head and haven't asked enough people if they see what I've seen? I'm inclined to go with screwy in the head since it seems sometimes the best way to perceive it.
I like the discussion, just wish there was more interest in this thread.
Message edited by author 2007-12-23 21:11:17. |
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12/23/2007 09:36:37 PM · #7 |
| I'm not trying to say that the top scorers missed the point - far from it - i'm just saying that the theme was so open to interpretation that scoring became very difficult. Maybe this is the reason it was a relatively low scoring round. |
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12/24/2007 04:33:49 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by JimiRose:
I'm not trying to say that the top scorers missed the point - far from it - i'm just saying that the theme was so open to interpretation that scoring became very difficult. Maybe this is the reason it was a relatively low scoring round. |
Yeah, that's all I was saying. I think the same thing happened in the eBay challenge. Where the challenge asked for photos that conveyed the idea of buying on eBay, a lot of people just did pictures of things that can be purchased on eBay (which is nearly everything). These challenges rely on the title FAR too much, and that's what I don't like about them
I felt kind of bad about starting this thread almost immediately after I did so. I hope I don't come off as too much of a ass... I'm sorry if I do.
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12/24/2007 04:53:10 AM · #9 |
 I finished well in Unseen and got the red! :) Very excited but had a couple comments that didn't get how it met the challenge. My thought process was to use long exposure since you can't see water like that with your naked eye no matter how hard you look. Also you don't really see people in a shot like that. And my eyes are closed and yet my camera caught what I couldn't see, literally. :) Feel free to disagree. I am not upset or think you an ass. :)
I agree that in a challenge based on concepts like this one, it can be difficult to vote on. For a voter, I think its easy to get stuck in what they think the challenge is about and may think some images are shoehorns or don't fit the challenge very well. It can be hard to open up to others interpretations and then vote on their idea of the challenge. |
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12/24/2007 02:16:33 PM · #10 |
jdannels,
I now understand your thought process and in this way it meets the challenge. I find this thread to be a great learning experience. We each see things and interpret challenge titles differently because we are each unique. Have you found a match for your exact fingerprints yet?
I didn't score high nor low on your image I commented 'beautiful softness'. I would have scored higher knowing the story or reasoning behind it. Congratulations on your Red ribbon!
No one is an ass in this, it is how we each think and see differently and that is the beauty of photography, at least for me. |
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12/24/2007 02:28:40 PM · #11 |
 As for my entry, which didn't score well at all my thoughts turned to what I have seen a hint of and in time learned to photograph. I know of one or two people that have seen something like this, yet different, because it is so much easier to see. I haven't mastered the photography of that one as yet, but I will. I know that there are technical problems with the image I posted, but it is the nature of this image and it is found where it is.
I am one of those weirdos that sees colors or auras and such and have been told by many that I'm crazy and it doesn't exist. The photo above demonstrates to me that the unseen is around us all the time and we just don't see it except in glimpses. Kind of like seeing in 30 second intervals or hawks blinking, just different perspectives of this wonderful world around us. |
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12/24/2007 03:55:25 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by slaakso:
I am one of those weirdos that sees colors or auras and such and have been told by many that I'm crazy and it doesn't exist. |
You might be interested in this this recent discussion on "body maps" (and the book by the interviewees), which includes some information on this very phenomenon. |
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12/24/2007 05:43:59 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by slaakso:
I am one of those weirdos that sees colors or auras and such and have been told by many that I'm crazy and it doesn't exist. |
You might be interested in this this recent discussion on "body maps" (and the book by the interviewees), which includes some information on this very phenomenon. |
Worth investigating a bit more. |
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