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12/04/2007 12:57:51 AM · #1
I need some help please, due to the wonderful gift of a new Macro lens from my family for Xmas.

Which would be the BEST for me.

I have read this thread which is similar to mine.
Which Macro lens to buy by danielcheong.

These are the lenses I already own.....

Lenses:
Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM The one I LOVE, and use most of the time.
Canon EF 35mm f/2.0
Canon EF 90-300mm f/4.5-5.6 USM
Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM The one I use, but feel I could do much better, with better glass, and closer range.

I love to own the Canon EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro USM which it about the Best one I would love to own. My problem is, would it be to big & heavy for me. I would always use a tripod as I alway do for macros.

My other choice would be the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro This is proberly the one I should have brought in the first place, instead of the 60mm. .

I do like the 180mm as it seems to suit me, due to not being able to get around much. Most of my photograohy is close up range, and just need the better glass and distance close up range re a new macro lens, to improve the quality of my images.

A big Thank you to Jason, DrAchoo for giving me some great advice and feels I would do well with the 180mm.
I love the quality he gets from his macros.....

Please advise me on what you think would be BEST, as the 180m is very expensive, and I do not want to waste the money, if I can't use it.....
It is definately the one I like to own.
I am so lucky to have a family who supports me in my photography.

Yes, I know I am very spoilt.

many thanks..... shez

Message edited by author 2007-12-04 01:02:48.
12/04/2007 01:01:12 AM · #2
If You get a new one, can I have first dibs on your 60 EF-S???

Good luck on your decison..
12/04/2007 01:01:56 AM · #3
I will certailly think about that.....

Originally posted by buzzrock:

If You get a new one, can I have first dibs on your 60 EF-S???

Good luck on your decison..

12/04/2007 01:57:14 AM · #4
B U M P I N G ..... Please Help.....
12/04/2007 02:45:08 AM · #5
Hi, it's a tricky one isn't it ;)
When I changed from my 20D to a 5D my only regret was not being able to use the EF-S 60mm with it. It really is an excellent lens and I prefer it to the EF 100m f2.8 that I got to replace it, although I have been pleased with that. The EF 180mm macro is excellent and is the lens I use most, and not just for macro. For macro I would only ever use it with a tripod, if I'm limited to hand holding I use the 100mm. I use it with a cable release as well as it's length makes it very suceptible to any tremor.
I think if you're happy with maybe the bit more time and care that the 180mm benefits from (at macro level) then you wouldn't regret it. The 100mm is an excellent lens too, but I really miss the 60mm :(
12/04/2007 03:48:17 AM · #6
I just love your macro shots, totally awesome.....
You have opened my eyes to the possibality of being able to use the 180mm macro lens, which I really have my heart set on.....

Love to know what anyone else thinks please.....

Originally posted by Chinarosepetal:

Hi, it's a tricky one isn't it ;)
When I changed from my 20D to a 5D my only regret was not being able to use the EF-S 60mm with it. It really is an excellent lens and I prefer it to the EF 100m f2.8 that I got to replace it, although I have been pleased with that. The EF 180mm macro is excellent and is the lens I use most, and not just for macro. For macro I would only ever use it with a tripod, if I'm limited to hand holding I use the 100mm. I use it with a cable release as well as it's length makes it very suceptible to any tremor.
I think if you're happy with maybe the bit more time and care that the 180mm benefits from (at macro level) then you wouldn't regret it. The 100mm is an excellent lens too, but I really miss the 60mm :(

12/04/2007 04:42:23 AM · #7
Hi Sherryl. You should not buy any better macro lense. Your macro shots are absolutely great now, so you better sell the 60 and let other people try to do macro shots...LOL

I own the 100 2.8 and I think is an amazing lense in my opinion. I don't use it a lot for macro, but I've seen some incredible macro shots with it. On the other hand, is a great glass for portraits or middle distance shots.

Some of my last shots are with that (they are not great, but maybe useful to you):



Ãlex.
12/04/2007 05:35:01 AM · #8
I don't know of any camon good lens.
12/04/2007 06:43:43 AM · #9
I think the only way to see if the 180mm is too heavy for you would be to get one to try out (maybe from a camera shop). The best thing would be to get hold of both so you can compare them directly.
12/04/2007 07:10:53 AM · #10
I love the Canon 100mm macro. It's a SUPERB lens and seems to be extremely highly regarded - I've even heard people say it's an L in all but name although if it's that good I do wonder why Canon haven't made it an L, perhaps didn't want to change the specs to add weatherproofing...?

Anyway, I think it's a lovely lens to use, particularly for plant macros:

//www.flickr.com/photos/kavey/collections/

In my Kew Collection on flickr the images taken in 2007 were taken using the 100 mm macro lens. So were the 2006 ones though they were literally the very first images I ever took with the lens - we just got it a few days before and I'd not used it previously.
12/04/2007 07:49:01 AM · #11
read this

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12/04/2007 03:37:32 PM · #12
The link won't work for me.....

Originally posted by rider:

read this

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12/04/2007 03:42:48 PM · #13
I thought of this, but due to the cost no one has it in stock around here for me to see..... I dso thinl that with a tripod it will be ok for me.....

I will be able to get closer to places where I can't get with this super lens..... and with nore accuracy, with the better glass and lens. Things like lily ponds (At oue local resort, who allows me to come in occasionally, to take photos) and especially lilies hopefully with bees and dragon flys.....

Originally posted by Raziel:

I think the only way to see if the 180mm is too heavy for you would be to get one to try out (maybe from a camera shop). The best thing would be to get hold of both so you can compare them directly.

12/04/2007 03:50:28 PM · #14
I know I pressed the wrong tab, and made another stupid spelling mistake, re the word Canon..... I have asked Site council to correct it please..... Sorry about that..... Please blame it on my eyesite.....

Originally posted by Oded:

I don't know of any camon good lens.


Message edited by author 2007-12-04 15:51:04.
12/04/2007 03:52:15 PM · #15
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12/04/2007 04:01:53 PM · #16
The 180mm macro weighs 2.4 lbs, versus 12 ounces for the 60mm you already have. That's a LOT of weight.

The 180mm is 7.3 inches long, versus 2.8 inches for the 60mm. That's 4.5 inches longer.

The closest focusing distance (1:1 macro for both lenses) is 1.6 feet for the 180mm, .65 feet for the 60mm. That's measured from the sensor plane of the camera

So the 180mm has 4.5 inches more glass between it and the subject, but the camera body is 1 foot further away; meaning the 180mm will get the front of your lens 7.5 inches further from your subject. Not a heck of a lot, but still reasonably substantial.

I guess if you are using them on a tripod, that's quite a bit better for you as your mobility is limited, and you won't have to (for example) lean over as far. But then, you're pretty close tot he ground anyway :-)

Still, I worry that you will be physically unable to handhold this lens in any kind of near-focus mode, whereas the 60mm is easily hand-holdable. Imaging quality of the two lenses is pretty much the same. Both are excellent, tack-sharp.

If you can, just keep the 60mm for when you need to handhold and get the 180mm for tripod work, have the best of both worlds.

R.
12/04/2007 04:04:06 PM · #17
If you can get ahold of a 70-200 IS USM you can get a rough idea of the size of the 180mm macro. The 70-200 is slightly longer and it is about 3/4 pound more. So IF you can handle that lens, you should be able to handle the 180mm.

I did caution Sherpet that it is not an easy lens to handhold. I have big manhands and feel I can do it, but only at speeds above 1/250. Still, if she is using the tripod almost all the time, the working distance may be a great asset for her since I heard in another thread she may be shooting more from a wheelchair.
12/04/2007 04:16:31 PM · #18
Originally posted by rider:

read this

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12/04/2007 04:18:40 PM · #19
Sheryl,

I have the 100mm 2.8 and I simply ADORE IT!

I haven't tried any of the others so I can only speak for it - got it in August and am simply blown away by it - it's BEAUTIFUL for portraits too!

12/04/2007 04:39:06 PM · #20
Thank you so much Robert, you have saved me from making a huge mistake and selling the 60mm.... I WILL NOW DEFINATELY KEEP IT, and use it for hand held, and the 180 with a tripod.

I am going to buy a special tripod for the 180mm, apart from the tripod I own already, so as to have it suitable for the weight and balance of the 180mm.

Thank you everyone for all your help..... It is a lot of money, and I didn't want to make a mistake. I am so lucky to have a family member who supports me in my photograohy, and is able to buy this super lens for me.

They have many of my images blown up, and displayed in there beautiful home, in Sydney, and are very proud of me, and my photography.....

My Family is very well known here in Australia....
My uncle started the company, and saved my life when I was born, when all the Doctors said I would not live beyond my teenage years.

Gee I sure proved them wrong.....

This is there web site if you like to take a look..... Blackmores Health products.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

If you can, just keep the 60mm for when you need to handhold and get the 180mm for tripod work, have the best of both worlds.R.

12/04/2007 05:23:16 PM · #21
Looking forward to seeing the first pics when you get things up and running!

Message edited by author 2007-12-04 17:23:24.
12/04/2007 05:31:19 PM · #22
Shez,
I absolutely love the Sigma 180mm f/3.5 EX APO Macro IF HSM for Canon. I've taken all of my highest scoring photos with it. It is heavy, though. I don't have "big man hands" like Jason, LOL, so I have to use a tripod. My husband sometimes gets clean shots with it hand-held, but I just can't do it. With a sturdy tripod, though, it's fabulous.

//www.dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=569

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Message edited by author 2007-12-04 17:31:58.
12/04/2007 05:37:41 PM · #23
Thanks heaps for the information below, and I like the look of it, as well..... very similar to the Canon 180mm, and a litttle cheaper.....

I love your photography very much, especially your macro shots.....

Originally posted by noraneko:

Shez,
I absolutely love the Sigma 180mm f/3.5 EX APO Macro IF HSM for Canon. I've taken all of my highest scoring photos with it. It is heavy, though. I don't have "big man hands" like Jason, LOL, so I have to use a tripod. My husband sometimes gets clean shots with it hand-held, but I just can't do it. With a sturdy tripod, though, it's fabulous.

//www.dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=569

edit to fix link


Message edited by author 2007-12-04 17:38:22.
12/04/2007 05:39:52 PM · #24
Me to... me to... me to.....

They have to order it, so it will be awhile..... I can't wait.....

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Looking forward to seeing the first pics when you get things up and running!

12/04/2007 05:49:58 PM · #25
THANK YOU.......

Originally posted by karmat:

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