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11/19/2007 12:32:19 PM · #26
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by karmat:



i do NOT pee outside.


That is not an environment hazard, is it?

Lets all support Potty Training for all Wildlife (and farm animals and pets too)!


It was in reference to Leroy peeing outside to save the water from flushing.

:)

Right now, I'm just in support of my 2 year old being potty trained -- she, however, with a stubbornness that could only come from my side of the family her father is flat out refusing.
11/19/2007 12:39:03 PM · #27
Peeing outside is not only environmentally considerate, but liberating and fun. :-)
11/19/2007 12:58:20 PM · #28
calculate your carbon footprint here

FWIW, i

- recycle
- compost
- grow some of my own food (i have fire-roasted peppers out the yinyang in my freezer)
- participate in a CSA
- buy local meat and dairy when possible
- have 2 chickens fostered at a neighbor's house for eggs
- TRY to eat "in season" or buy in bulk in season and freeze
- am building soopa-tight storm windows
- have insulated my 104-year-old house
- work from home
- keep the thermostat at 59 except (for about 5 hours a day, 1 in the morning and 4 in the evening) in the winter (and i wear a lot of socks)
- use the "no heat dry" on my dishwasher and only run it when full
- hang up clothes to dry when possible
- participate in a program through my electric company where they cycle the A/C off and on in the summer to reduce demand on the power grid

...but, i drive a small pickup (which is necessary when you're an ongoing remodeler). and the nearest organic grocery is a 15 minute drive, which sucks. so i'm no angel, but i do try.
11/19/2007 01:17:59 PM · #29
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Peeing outside is not only environmentally considerate, but liberating and fun. :-)


Hell yeah!
11/20/2007 02:47:55 PM · #30
Originally posted by muckpond:

calculate your carbon footprint here


that calculator sucks.
It asks how many people in the house - fine. But that is insufficient information. It asks about a car. We have 2 - my friend's house has 5 people and 5 cars that all get driven. Bad calculator. I never burn wood, they do quite often. I never cook out, they do a couple of times a week. Sorry, but that adds up.
11/20/2007 03:32:38 PM · #31
I hope you get your used compact fluorescents to proper recycling. If you just throw them away, you're polluting more than being green.
Look at the fluorescent's packaging... You see the little letters...(Hg) That means the lamp contains mercury. Not really too good for the environment. I heard they ned to be recycled in a very specific way.
11/20/2007 03:54:53 PM · #32
How about putting solar panels on your roof?

This is something I'm interested in, though the startup cost is probably high, and batteries for energy storage not so green.

I haven't done ANY reading on it yet, any experienced folk here?
11/20/2007 04:01:54 PM · #33
I have green poo
11/20/2007 04:11:46 PM · #34
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

I have green poo

That's from drinking too much grape Gatorade. ;-P
11/20/2007 04:39:03 PM · #35
BS

I'm not very green. But try to be when I can.

I drive.
I use computers.
I use ink.
I use A/C.
I use gas heat.
I cut grass with gas lawnmower.
I don't have a compost heap in my yard. My neighbor did and it was a disgusting display.

Message edited by author 2007-11-20 16:45:02.
11/20/2007 04:49:49 PM · #36
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

How about putting solar panels on your roof?

This is something I'm interested in, though the startup cost is probably high, and batteries for energy storage not so green.

I haven't done ANY reading on it yet, any experienced folk here?

Found this article at my electricity provider's website, sounds coolio. No need for batteries.

I actually brought this up with the wife the other day and she wasn't against it. I was shocked, she's usually against my schemes.

Message edited by author 2007-11-20 16:52:17.
11/20/2007 07:05:15 PM · #37
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

electricity provider's website,


Careful here, something isn't right....

"Smith has signed a 20-year contract with the Ontario Power Authority (OPA), under what's called the standard offer program. It allows him to sell power the house generates at 42 cents per kilowatt hour -- money in his pocket."

I only pay 10.2 cents per kilowatt hour for mine.

11/20/2007 07:08:45 PM · #38
Originally posted by kenskid:


I don't have a compost heap in my yard. My neighbor did and it was a disgusting display.


Unless you are a gardener, I don't think composting at home produces any less methane than it does in a landfill and is pretty much useless.
11/20/2007 07:15:27 PM · #39
Originally posted by David Ey:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

electricity provider's website,


Careful here, something isn't right....

"Smith has signed a 20-year contract with the Ontario Power Authority (OPA), under what's called the standard offer program. It allows him to sell power the house generates at 42 cents per kilowatt hour -- money in his pocket."

I only pay 10.2 cents per kilowatt hour for mine.


42¢/kWh is correct. Payments for wind, water and biomass energy are 11.04¢/kWh, suggesting that Ontario has chosen to subsidize solar energy in order to encourage its development and use.

~Terry
11/20/2007 07:33:50 PM · #40
I got lost somewhere. Last month I used 1850 kwh and my bill was $188.70 If I had paid .42c it would have been $777. If they are paying this guy .42 they surely must be charging someone More to use it. How can this energy be cost effective and affordable?
11/20/2007 07:41:24 PM · #41
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by kenskid:


I don't have a compost heap in my yard. My neighbor did and it was a disgusting display.


Unless you are a gardener, I don't think composting at home produces any less methane than it does in a landfill and is pretty much useless.


Many places have problems with landfills filling up and no place to put new trash. Composting organic waste keeps it from filling up landfills needlessly.
11/20/2007 07:43:10 PM · #42
What I do now:
Recycle everything at home and work
Have a wormery/composter for food waste
Insulated house throughout
Turn heating on only twice a day morning & night in winter for just 2/3 hours respectively
Don't drink canned drinks (perhaps the odd beer)
Try not to shop at supermarkets
Dump excess packaging at supermarkets if I shop there
Drive a 50+ mpg car
Hang clothes on dryers
Use ecotricity power
Converted most friends and colleagues to greener living
Switch off lights when rooms empty
Don't leave fridge door open for any length of time
All appliances switched off at mains - no standby
Use public transport and walk every working day
Cycle as much as possible
Encourage my kids to walk and cycle
Don't buy goods from far off lands where possible - in particular China, Japan, India and US where environment records are poor
Buy organic locally if possible
Don't renew cellphone frequently (ensure that manufacturer does not use coltan which is responsible for the destruction of much gorilla habitat) - recycle handset if I do
No longer fly anywhere (my bruv lives in San Fran so it's tough)
Use cistern fillers to reduce wasted flushed water
Low voltage lightbulbs
Make myself a pain in the arse with companies by writing to them if I think their enviro policy is shoddy (also write if they get it right)
--
What I'd like to do:
Want to grow veggies and fruit
Would love to have a smaller, more sustainable house and design it from scratch (I like Earthships - very cool) – green homes always look cool, balanced, thoroughly comfortable, contemporary and calming
--
Guilty pleasures:
Watch a fair bit of TV/DVDs (now recycling DVDs and reselling ones I've watched)
I like and buy technology (iPods and hifi, etc.) but I only buy the very best energy-efficient brands
--
Unforgiveable:
We did use a lot of disposable nappies
Have flown frequently for years up to about 5 years ago
11/20/2007 07:59:29 PM · #43
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by kenskid:


I don't have a compost heap in my yard. My neighbor did and it was a disgusting display.


Unless you are a gardener, I don't think composting at home produces any less methane than it does in a landfill and is pretty much useless.


Compost makes organic fertilizer; which is much better for the environment than synthetic.
11/20/2007 08:28:42 PM · #44
I
-recycle
-dont own a car
-am very careful with lights and water waste

but..

i take 3 R/T 8000 Km flights a year

and that makes me bad for the environment, but what am I to do?
11/20/2007 10:20:43 PM · #45
Originally posted by David Ey:

I got lost somewhere. Last month I used 1850 kwh and my bill was $188.70 If I had paid .42c it would have been $777. If they are paying this guy .42 they surely must be charging someone More to use it. How can this energy be cost effective and affordable?


Probably because the province of Ontario has made a conscious decision to subsidize the cost in order to encourage investment in solar technology. As with most technologies (think computers, for example), the cost comes down as production techniques and yields improve. The Ontario government may feel that by investing money now to enable deployment of solar technology, they can avoid more expensive problems in the future. As solar systems become more affordable, the offered rate to new installers will probably drop accordingly.

~Terry
11/21/2007 12:33:52 AM · #46
Originally posted by Imagineer:


Unforgiveable:
We did use a lot of disposable nappies


I don't know that this is unforgiveable. Before my son was born, I investigated disposable vs. washable.

disposables take up landfill space but to keep the washable sanitary, it uses a lot of hot water (electricity + water), so neither is very "green." (unless the baby has, well, never mind).

11/21/2007 12:35:47 AM · #47
Originally posted by karmat:

no neither is very "green." (unless the baby has, well, never mind).


hehe :-D

Grape Gatorade?

Message edited by author 2007-11-21 00:36:28.
11/23/2007 08:45:46 AM · #48
Green nut syndrome:

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