Pictures from our camping trip - DPChallenge Forums

11/11/2007 04:04:50 PM · #1

Taken with my new D200.

Camping trip had to be cut short due to the snow and not having the proper tent or clothing. I was bummed I couldn't get any pictures of the mountains or valleys- except the one which I converted to black and white because it was so foggy coming home yesterday color looked worse.

Shenandoah National Park

loving my new camera.

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

11/11/2007 07:31:52 PM · #2

Originally posted by missinseattle:

...Camping trip had to be cut short due to the snow and not having the proper tent or clothing. I was bummed I couldn't get any pictures of the mountains or valleys...

you go camping in the "mountains" and are not prepared for cold/wet weather?
Virginia HAS mountains? :)

11/11/2007 08:44:42 PM · #3

well we were prepared for cold weather, we weren't prepared for snow

If it had just been my husband and I we would have been fine. Both of us are perfectly content to huddle around the campfire and play cards and relax. But our almost 7yo has only seen snow a couple of times and wanted to play in it. She didn't have boots or snowpants. Plenty of layers yes, but nothing for playing in the snow. They weren't expecting snow like they got.
So we spent a lot of time drying hiking shoes, socks and pants over the fire. Our tents is not meant for snow either.

And yes, we get snow in VA. My part of Virginia no. Northwestern VA, yes. We have mountains- the Blue Ridge Mountains. Gorgeous when you can see them!

11/11/2007 08:57:36 PM · #4

I have to be honest with you, those photos are not sharp. I'm not sure what kind of issue your having, but the detail in those photos is not good. There is either motion blur or lens shake in those, either that or that lens is terribly soft. I think you might want to do some testing with that setup.

MattO

11/11/2007 09:09:59 PM · #5

Well thank you for being ever so blunt Matto

It's not a lens issue. Fact of the matter is, I was taking pictures from a moving vehicle, taking pictures while sliding in the snow- not intentionally sliding, but kind of hard when that's all there is, I didn't have my tripod with me, not to mention I was cold without gloves on and left my gloves off to take pictures.

Maybe you should practice some tact.

11/11/2007 09:18:00 PM · #6

Originally posted by missinseattle:

Wow, I'm not sure where this comes from, I was simply trying to point out that you posted photos for everyone to see, and I can see obvious flaws in the photos that might indicate an issue with your camera. I've had enough new cameras that I sometimes overlook things that arent right, because the new toy has me blinded with joy. Sorry I even bothered to respond with what was meant as helpful information. Yeah I'm blunt, but hey would you rather I tell you that they are the most wonderful things I've ever set eyes on, if in fact there were something wrong with your new gear?

And BTW the one shot while driving is cool, but I wont bother posting any comments for you, apparently you dont like an honest opinion.

MattO

11/11/2007 09:21:36 PM · #7

well lets go back to my thread about refurbished cameras Matto. Maybe you should go back and take a loot at your replies there. If you remember correctly you were quite anti Nikon and negative- "refurbished and Nikon, I can see how the two go together"

I don't mind honest critiques, but geesh! I'm not afraid to post imperfect pictures. I do it for a reason. the one of my dog I knew was blurry. The one driving down the road was supposed to be blurry. I thought it looked kind of cool. I got the effect I wanted.

Not sure what about the other two isn't clear. I'm a little stumped. And figuring in this was my first time using my new camera, I'm still trying to figure things out.

iamkmaniam

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

11/11/2007 09:26:54 PM · #8

Somebody get some water theres a fire brewing

11/11/2007 09:28:15 PM · #9

Originally posted by missinseattle:

I dont know about this thread, but I remember what I posted in the other thread. One was a post stating that I had bought a refurb before, the other was a joke, posted at someone elses response. Perhaps you can point out my other "quote" that I dont remember typing and cant find. Perhaps I should just stay away from your posts. I'm not sure the issue, but I'll add you to the list of stay clear from their posts.

MattO

11/11/2007 09:37:51 PM · #10

Oh there's no fire.

Matto the other comment you made was about Nikon owners swearing AT their cameras, not by them.

Joking or not, you said it, had you only knocked Nikon once I probably wouldn't have noticed, but you did it twice and I don't see it as necessary and it certainly didn't change my decision any lol.

I like a good critique, in fact I'd like a critique on my work, not just a generalized statement that it's not sharp, yada yada yada. How about whats not sharp about certain pictures and what I could have done differently. THAT would be an honest critique and I probably wouldn't have taken it the same way as I did this.

No need for water. I'm done and heading to bed.

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

11/11/2007 09:45:56 PM · #11

Originally posted by missinseattle:

FYI what you just said IS the joke I posted in the linked thread. I'd still like to see the second comment that I made.

MattO

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

11/11/2007 09:54:34 PM · #12

Hey, guys, come on. Matt is right, the pictures are shaky. Whether that's intentional or not, or because of the slippery weather, there's nothing wrong in saying it, especially if there's a new camera/lens and there possibly could be some problems. Missi is right, it's her first time with the camera/lens, hopefully things will get better.

Matt's a good guy. So he likes Canon, so what. Canon/Nikon banter is fun (most of the time). Missi is learning.

Just keep it civil please.

rox_rox

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

11/11/2007 09:56:07 PM · #13

Originally posted by MattO:

missinseattle,

I have read Matt's comment from every angle; and even if he were unpleasant in another thread (which I have no knowledge of), I really can't see what got you in such a huff.

I just glanced at your profile and it appears that you've started quite a few threads about your new equipment and have been the recipient of some great encouragement and advice. I would consider it a gift that the people on this site are so generous with their expertise.

I hope you cool off and reconsider your reaction to this comment, and try to separate your emotions towards Matt from this very honest and good advice he has been so kind to share.

Although this particular issue is none of my business, I think that the spirit of your response serves to discourage people from being straightforward.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/11/2007 10:02:54 PM · #14

I've cooled off, I'm still waiting for a critique on said pictures pointing out exactly what the issues are. Which I've emailed Matt about and stated here.

I'm not a professional and I don't understand what is not sharp in two of them. So now I've had 40 plus people look at them and not one comment on any of them except for Matt's generalized statement of how unsharp they are. So for the umpteenth time it would be nice if someone could point out in said picture what is not sharp.

That is my whole point.

I am very thankful for the critiques and advice I've received here. I've learned a great deal from some amazing "artists" here and value their opinions and guidance. But I also need something precise which I have asked for in this thread.

pjangel

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

11/11/2007 10:32:59 PM · #15

Left some comments on your photos. New equipment does have a learning curve, I'm still learning my 5D!!

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

11/11/2007 10:41:00 PM · #16

Difficult to learn a new camera under the atmospheric and weather conditions that your trip found you in. Except for the highway picture, which is a cool picture, I find the others to be underexposed. Check the histogram of these shots to see if most of the tones are on the left side. Heavy fog and bright white snow can easily fool a camera's metering of the scene towards underexpose and it's up to the photographer to correct this in the settings they choose.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

11/11/2007 11:36:55 PM · #17

Left you some comments.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/11/2007 11:44:02 PM · #18

You need to post camera settings with your images if you expect helpful feedback. Bump the thread when you do.

fotomann_forever

11/11/2007 11:53:34 PM · #19

I agree... camera settings will help a lot. But, I can tell you from personal experience (and that I am terribly anti-cold) that shivering and slow shutter or long telephoto are not really compatible.

rossbilly

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

11/11/2007 11:56:51 PM · #20

Sharp, with individual hairs clearly visible & well focused eyes.

[thumb]611451[/thumb] No where near as sharp as the one above, and definitely lacks detail in the hair & eyes.

(Now, to bash mine too...)

Emily's eyes are pretty sharp here (thin DOF from using 50 1.4) This image took more than one attempt @ sharpening.

Straight from camera - no sharpening. Some softness was motion induced(notice movement in Bokeh rings), yet most people's initial reaction is 'its blurry'. More importantly, note the only comment this shot received. It is from a man I KNOW would not say "mean" things regarding my pictures (he's a very close & giving friend), yet even he points out the lack of clarity.

While I have not met

MattO, I'm willing to bet that he did the same thing I did regarding your images: Take a look at each of them, AND look @ your apparent skill level (the rest of your portfolio), then try to offer useful information. I also read the other thread you've linked and, while he does QUOTE a statement you made, his joking does appear aimed @ another user.

Regardless, I do understand how any of us can be a bit defensive of our works (especially when playing with new 'toys'!) - I simply hope you can realize that people ARE trying to be helpful.

One last thing - congratulations on having a new toy to play with!!! :)

fotomann_forever

11/12/2007 12:02:38 AM · #21

It was once explained to me this way: if something is in focus on a blurry image, it is just out of focus. If nothing is in focus it's likely camera shake.

Keep in mind this is not ALWAYS true, but it's a good general rule.