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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/31/2007 10:24:41 AM · #1

When PP raw files, what imaging steps do you make in the camera raw, and what do you make in photoshop after you convert you jpg? Im just a bit confused as to the process of editng raw files.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

10/31/2007 10:28:13 AM · #2

Raw:

- rotate/crop
- all b/w conversion
- noise reduction
- curves/levels

Photoshop:

- add a border
- resize

Also the only time I convert it to jpeg is when saving a final image for printing (or upload here). Export from raw editor to photoshop is a tiff.

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

10/31/2007 10:28:56 AM · #3

I use Lightroom, so can do almost everything in RAW including white balance, contrast, saturation, minor cloning, cropping, b/w conversion, etc, etc, etc,.... then I convert to jpg and do the fine-tuning with PS like selective coloring, dodge/burn, fine cloning, enhancing details like eyes, etc.

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

10/31/2007 10:30:45 AM · #4

so any type of layers and masking, or fine tuning color would be done in Photoshop, right?

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

10/31/2007 10:32:19 AM · #5

Originally posted by brimac:

so any type of layers and masking, or fine tuning color would be done in Photoshop, right?

Yes. You need both RAW processor AND PhotoShop to complete complicated processing. I highly recommend Lightroom for easing the workflow.

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

10/31/2007 10:38:38 AM · #6

how much does light room cost? Any idea?

Thanks for the help, this is my first time trying to shoot in raw. Im curious to see if there is a difference between jpg, and raw.

Message edited by author 2007-10-31 10:41:56.

NstiG8tr

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

10/31/2007 10:42:38 AM · #7

$199 from adobe

Originally posted by brimac:

Im curious to see if there is a difference between jpg, and raw.

there's a difference

Message edited by author 2007-10-31 10:43:49.

Photologist

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/31/2007 10:56:11 AM · #8

I use Adobe Camera RAW to tweak the exposure, color temperature, and usually one or two of the colors, as well as a little curve adjustment.

Then I convert/save to 16-bit TIFF.

In CS3, I open the TIFF file, crop (if needed) and work with the curves and may do a little High Pass filtering (advanced editing challenges), or Smart Sharpen (basic editing challenges), if needed.

Finally, I convert to JPG, after changing to 8-bit mode. In basic challenges, I'll usually sharpen after reducing the image to size, not before.

Apple iPhone 5

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

10/31/2007 11:22:39 AM · #9

Originally posted by brimac:

Thanks for the help, this is my first time trying to shoot in raw. Im curious to see if there is a difference between jpg, and raw.

There is one main difference; RAW images have a bit-depth of 12 (14 for some cameras), and JPGs have a bit-depth of 8. So there's more tone information available in a RAW file.

This is why RAW editors are able to recover highlights, and give better results for adjusting colour, because they have more bit depth to work with. You could theoretically convert the image directly from RAW to TIFF (16-bit) and get the same results with some work in PS. However, RAW editing software is geared up for photo editing, so you have things like highlight recovery, which would take some playing with levels in PS.

smurfguy

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/31/2007 11:35:09 AM · #10

Technically when you use Photoshop to import RAW files, it does not "become" a JPG until you save it. Upon import it goes into PS's memory, and you can specify whether to import in 8-bit or 16-bit mode. At the time you save it, then you choose a file format and possibly incur lossy compression depending on the file format.

Assuming you choose 16-bit import, these is no loss from opening, importing and editing from a RAW file.

Apple iPhone 5

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

10/31/2007 12:08:20 PM · #11

Originally posted by smurfguy:

Assuming you choose 16-bit import, these is no loss from opening, importing and editing from a RAW file.

Exactly.

Adobe could have added a few photo-friendly menu options to CS3 like 'highlight recovery' and 'colour balance' to work on these 16-bit files and it would have done the same job as Lightroom. (Since these functions are essentially the same as PS 'levels' and 'selective colour')

Instead, they create Lightroom and charge everyone $200 for it.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

10/31/2007 12:29:58 PM · #12

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by smurfguy:
Assuming you choose 16-bit import, these is no loss from opening, importing and editing from a RAW file.

Exactly.

Adobe could have added a few photo-friendly menu options to CS3 like 'highlight recovery' and 'colour balance' to work on these 16-bit files and it would have done the same job as Lightroom. (Since these functions are essentially the same as PS 'levels' and 'selective colour')

Instead, they create Lightroom and charge everyone $200 for it.

You can use shadow/highlight in CS2-3...

R.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/31/2007 12:38:54 PM · #13

I am a guidance couselor so I can get an educational discount on Adobe software...I can get Lightroom for $99!!!!

Photologist

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

10/31/2007 01:43:47 PM · #14

Originally posted by brimac:

I am a guidance couselor so I can get an educational discount on Adobe software...I can get Lightroom for $99!!!!

Most anyone that has kids, high-schoolers, college students, or have a neighbor that has kids, high-schoolers, college students can get that discount. ;-)