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10/20/2007 07:31:37 AM · #26 |
| I think that the challenge is on "street jounalism" isn't need that there are accidents,tragedies etc but food still life are dnmc :) |
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10/20/2007 09:07:45 PM · #27 |
Can we resize our image using the bicubic sharper setting (in PS2) or does it have to be one of the others?
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10/21/2007 11:02:13 AM · #28 |
| Hmmm - I don' think it mattes how you resize it as long as you only do it once, but you might ask SC. |
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10/21/2007 11:13:11 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
I think that the challenge is on "street jounalism" isn't need that there are accidents,tragedies etc but food still life are dnmc :) |
If you live in a one-cow town, then harvests and weather or a local flower garden are front page news. You cannot automatically DNMC an image because YOU do not think it is news.
Btw the description states: Put yourself in the shoes of a magazine or newspaper photographer and try to capture a shot worthy of the front page.
That means a food shot can go on a Food Mag front cover!
Message edited by author 2007-10-21 11:15:21.
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10/21/2007 12:15:15 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by papagei:
Originally posted by Rino63:
I think that the challenge is on "street jounalism" isn't need that there are accidents,tragedies etc but food still life are dnmc :) |
If you live in a one-cow town, then harvests and weather or a local flower garden are front page news. You cannot automatically DNMC an image because YOU do not think it is news.
Btw the description states: Put yourself in the shoes of a magazine or newspaper photographer and try to capture a shot worthy of the front page.
That means a food shot can go on a Food Mag front cover! |
With that said, and with magazines that cover just about every subject imaginable, this amounts to a minimal editing free study. |
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10/21/2007 12:25:50 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Redneck:
Originally posted by papagei:
Originally posted by Rino63:
I think that the challenge is on "street jounalism" isn't need that there are accidents,tragedies etc but food still life are dnmc :) |
If you live in a one-cow town, then harvests and weather or a local flower garden are front page news. You cannot automatically DNMC an image because YOU do not think it is news.
Btw the description states: Put yourself in the shoes of a magazine or newspaper photographer and try to capture a shot worthy of the front page.
That means a food shot can go on a Food Mag front cover! |
With that said, and with magazines that cover just about every subject imaginable, this amounts to a minimal editing free study. |
And the challenge is beginning to sound better and better :)
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10/21/2007 12:28:11 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Redneck:
With that said, and with magazines that cover just about every subject imaginable, this amounts to a minimal editing free study. |
Except that you can reasonably count on the voters to give some props to events that actually seem newsorthy. I doubt that a perfectly-done, studio food shot would ribbon, even if you can argue that it would be perfect for a Bon Appetit cover, for instance.
When most people think "photojournalism", they think real-life events captured in images.
I could be wrong, of course...
R.
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10/21/2007 12:28:14 PM · #33 |
| The discussion here is just telling me to refrain from entering... |
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10/21/2007 01:33:17 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Redneck:
With that said, and with magazines that cover just about every subject imaginable, this amounts to a minimal editing free study. |
Except that you can reasonably count on the voters to give some props to events that actually seem newsorthy. I doubt that a perfectly-done, studio food shot would ribbon, even if you can argue that it would be perfect for a Bon Appetit cover, for instance.
When most people think "photojournalism", they think real-life events captured in images.
I could be wrong, of course...
R. |
I absolutely agree with you Robert, and unless I can find something to shoot “newsworthy” I doubt I will enter. I was just pointing out as voters we should take that into consideration before those 4 nasty capital letters are used ruthlessly. |
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10/21/2007 02:28:54 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Redneck:
With that said, and with magazines that cover just about every subject imaginable, this amounts to a minimal editing free study. |
Except that you can reasonably count on the voters to give some props to events that actually seem newsorthy. I doubt that a perfectly-done, studio food shot would ribbon, even if you can argue that it would be perfect for a Bon Appetit cover, for instance.
When most people think "photojournalism", they think real-life events captured in images.
I could be wrong, of course...
R. |
The food shot *should* ribbon, but people will not bother to really READ the description, relying on their own prejudices. Still does not mean we should not enter. I have been w/o a camera for a couple months and now that I have two - I am shooting everything LOL
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10/21/2007 02:36:12 PM · #36 |
C'mon folks. This is a minimal editing free study. On a slow news day, anything can end up in the papers.
Witness: Friday's Wall Street Journal had a half page article with photo about paddling pumpkin races.
Time to chill.
"Don't worry. Be happy." |
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10/21/2007 05:21:18 PM · #37 |
Let me just say this: In college, I never had a photojournalism course on studio food photography. Take that how ya want, but results of the last two challenges would certainly show that voters think PJ should be newsworthy photos, not just "slow day" filler.
Message edited by author 2007-10-21 17:24:48.
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10/21/2007 06:19:46 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Shadowi6:
Can we resize our image using the bicubic sharper setting (in PS2) or does it have to be one of the others? |
Just heard back from the SC and any of the available resampling algorithms are fine as long as it was done in one step
Thanks for the fast response SC's
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10/21/2007 11:57:34 PM · #39 |
| It would be REALLY awesome if there weren't as many sports shots as there have been in the past. I'm not saying I'll dnmc, but I'll be a little disappointed... |
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10/22/2007 06:17:09 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by JBHale:
It would be REALLY awesome if there weren't as many sports shots as there have been in the past. I'm not saying I'll dnmc, but I'll be a little disappointed... |
I think that there isn't only the title or the challenge description, but you must interpreting the "spirit" of the challenge. what is the true spirit of photojournalism? is capturing an image in your home? is capturing an image with perfect lighting,sharpness,composition? these are good features for any challenge but here I think that the emotive impact is the true challenge. My opinion is that the setup of the photographs should be forbidden. the photograph should be a true street photograph, a candid photo and the title should be a title for a reportage or for a newspaper article. |
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10/22/2007 06:32:28 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by JBHale:
It would be REALLY awesome if there weren't as many sports shots as there have been in the past. I'm not saying I'll dnmc, but I'll be a little disappointed... |
I think that there isn't only the title or the challenge description, but you must interpreting the "spirit" of the challenge. what is the true spirit of photojournalism? is capturing an image in your home? is capturing an image with perfect lighting,sharpness,composition? these are good features for any challenge but here I think that the emotive impact is the true challenge. My opinion is that the setup of the photographs should be forbidden. the photograph should be a true street photograph, a candid photo and the title should be a title for a reportage or for a newspaper article. |
But "street photography" is only a small portion of what photojournalism is... just as sports photography is, as event photography is, and so forth and so on...
R.
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10/22/2007 06:41:44 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by JBHale:
It would be REALLY awesome if there weren't as many sports shots as there have been in the past. I'm not saying I'll dnmc, but I'll be a little disappointed... |
I think that there isn't only the title or the challenge description, but you must interpreting the "spirit" of the challenge. what is the true spirit of photojournalism? is capturing an image in your home? is capturing an image with perfect lighting,sharpness,composition? these are good features for any challenge but here I think that the emotive impact is the true challenge. My opinion is that the setup of the photographs should be forbidden. the photograph should be a true street photograph, a candid photo and the title should be a title for a reportage or for a newspaper article. |
But "street photography" is only a small portion of what photojournalism is... just as sports photography is, as event photography is, and so forth and so on...
R. |
yes, in street photography I think that the sport photography is included because is candid. |
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10/22/2007 07:15:39 AM · #43 |
I think you need to have a good look at your local paper, have a look at the photos through out the paper. Mostly they are set up shots of people looking at the camera. Yes tragic shots jump to mind first, but they don't make up the bulk of a photojournalists work
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10/22/2007 07:52:24 AM · #44 |
| on the newspapers the peoples that look the camera are always phamous peoples or protagonists of news, other shots are tipically citiscapes for news from the city, sport images, candid photos during some event. on the magazines you can find any type of photography portraits, still life, landscape, cityscape.... but I think that the meaning of photojounalism is a photograph that is journalism. look the web site of magnum photos and you find any type of images that are journalism. |
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10/22/2007 08:26:35 AM · #45 |
Sports, festivals, train wrecks, air shows, graduations, ribbon cuttings, fires, homeless, etc. -- it all seems fair game to me. Flowers? Sure, but I guess that would be a slow news day. :-)
I really like the strictness of the rules, except the rule confining the degrees of rotation seems beyond photojournalism standards. But that makes it more challenging, too, so -- play on! |
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10/23/2007 05:08:30 PM · #46 |
PS: If anyone in So. California (jblaylockrayner?)
plans to photograph the wildfires, please be careful!
Seriously. :-) |
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10/23/2007 05:21:50 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by citymars:
ribbon cuttings, |
It would have to be one wild and crazy ribbon cutting event to get in the top 3!
;-) |
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10/23/2007 05:25:26 PM · #48 |
<=== will be voting on how well the photo tells a story.
While, I am well aware that PJs do indeed do setup shots all the time and they do run in papers (I did that quite a bit myself) that is not PJ work. That's stock photography and is often substituted with such. Definitely not gonna win a Pulizer or a ribbon (hopefully).
As an ex-PJ, I'm going to expect any photo I score highly to answer as many of the 5W-H as possible. Extra for having a title that completes the story (ie cutline). The food, setup, whatever, I will see as just lazy shoehorns. Sports shots, on the other hand generally tell a story, if done correctly.
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10/23/2007 05:30:38 PM · #49 |
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10/24/2007 11:39:49 PM · #50 |
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