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 10/23/2007 12:21:06 AM · #1
Okay, I am new here and I wanted to check to see if something is okay before I submit my picture. If this is the wrong place to do it, please let me know, otherwise, anybody that knows the answer please tell me. I used a preset in LR called aged photo. It kind of gives the picture a sepia type feel. I know that b&w is okay, but is this sepia conversion okay too? I feel that it falls under the you may category where it says I can add a filter as long as it affects the entire picture. Somebody please let me know if this is okay.

Thanks
 10/23/2007 12:23:54 AM · #2
What editing rules are you speaking of, (what challenge)?
 10/23/2007 12:23:59 AM · #3
It's ok. If you want to be 100% sure, ask the powers that be by submitting a ticket.
 10/23/2007 12:24:34 AM · #4
Originally posted by buzzrock:
What editing rules are you speaking of, (what challenge)?

Sorry basic editing.
 10/23/2007 12:26:21 AM · #5
Yeah ask SC---- I know that the vignette tool in LR has caused a DQ-- better check to be sure..
 10/23/2007 12:26:34 AM · #6
It's quite fine. The sepia is merely tinting a B&W image.
 10/23/2007 12:27:49 AM · #7
Well, I am pretty sure it is okay, and some of your comments have made me feel like it is, but I took your advice and I submitted a ticket. How do I get the answer, does it come to my email, or do I see it in my profile somewhere? This is the first time I have tried this, I am very new to this site.
 10/23/2007 12:29:14 AM · #8
They'll e-mail you.
 10/23/2007 12:30:26 AM · #9
You'll get an e-mail response. Keep in mid that SC may be busy and it may take a day or two, especially if we are misbehaving in the forums :-)
 10/23/2007 12:33:53 AM · #10
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
You'll get an e-mail response. Keep in mid that SC may be busy and it may take a day or two, especially if we are misbehaving in the forums :-)

Well hopefully it doesn't take them too long, I only have until tomorrow night to enter my pic. Thanks to everybody for their thoughts though.
 10/23/2007 12:36:28 AM · #11
Just want to add that dutone/tritone has always been legal in Basic, this should not be any different.
 10/23/2007 03:50:52 AM · #12
can i just add onto this the clarity slider, can't find out what this actually does? It looks like a subtle shadow/highlight effect.
 10/23/2007 03:51:54 AM · #13
Originally posted by richard42:
can i just add onto this the clarity slider, can't find out what this actually does? It looks like a subtle shadow/highlight effect.


It increases color contrast.
 10/23/2007 03:54:54 AM · #14
oh thats great thanks!

That should be ok to use then except the minimal ones of course.

and how fast did you type ?!
 10/23/2007 03:59:44 AM · #15
Originally posted by richard42:

and how fast did you type ?!


Only about 40 words a minute. :-)

And yes, fine in all but Minimal Editing
 10/23/2007 08:55:43 AM · #16
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
It's quite fine. The sepia is merely tinting a B&W image.

I might consider doing it using another method, using hue & saturation for example. Using a pre-existing method/filter/effect as the OP mentions could be considered an effects filter, and that's not allowed in Basic. I thought this came up once in a B/W challenge and a Duotone challenge, where it was mentioned that using converters/effects to alter from color wasn't legit.

From the Basic Rules: "No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur."

It would be nice to hear from SC on this for clarification.
 10/23/2007 09:51:52 AM · #17
bump, because I'm curious. :P
 10/23/2007 11:18:16 AM · #18
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
It's quite fine. The sepia is merely tinting a B&W image.

I might consider doing it using another method, using hue & saturation for example. Using a pre-existing method/filter/effect as the OP mentions could be considered an effects filter, and that's not allowed in Basic. I thought this came up once in a B/W challenge and a Duotone challenge, where it was mentioned that using converters/effects to alter from color wasn't legit.

From the Basic Rules: "No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur."

It would be nice to hear from SC on this for clarification.

If I understand the preset in LR correctly all they are doing is adjusting hue and saturation. They just found a settings that are used over and over again and saved them. However, I'm not sure that is all this one did, which is why I asked the question. It seems to me that I could get the same result by playing with the hue and saturation sliders. So if they tell me I can't, I guess I will have to do that instead of using the preset.
 10/23/2007 11:25:33 AM · #19
It's not an effects filter. It's a RAW conversion that does basically the same thing as Duotone in Photoshop (but with more control and in 16 bit mode).

There are no filters in LR.
 10/23/2007 11:39:06 AM · #20
Originally posted by Janae_Cooper:
Originally posted by glad2badad:

It would be nice to hear from SC on this for clarification.

If I understand the preset in LR correctly all they are doing is adjusting hue and saturation. They just found a settings that are used over and over again and saved them. However, I'm not sure that is all this one did, which is why I asked the question. It seems to me that I could get the same result by playing with the hue and saturation sliders. So if they tell me I can't, I guess I will have to do that instead of using the preset.


Yes, you can look on the right and see exactly what values are manipulated with each preset. Nothing there that you can't do with photoshop and stay within the bounds of basic editing. There isn't even a gaussian blur feature to stress about.
 10/23/2007 11:42:40 AM · #21
Originally posted by routerguy666:
There isn't even a gaussian blur feature to stress about.


;-D
10/23/2007 12:21:59 PM · #22
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
You'll get an e-mail response. Keep in mid that SC may be busy and it may take a day or two, especially if we are misbehaving in the forums :-)


What's with this We??? :O)

Ray
 10/23/2007 12:23:30 PM · #23
hey everyone. We see this thread, and a ticket or two on the same subject. Bear with us while we think this through and we'll let you know asap what the deal is.
 10/23/2007 12:26:29 PM · #24
Originally posted by frisca:
hey everyone. We see this thread, and a ticket or two on the same subject. Bear with us while we think this through and we'll let you know asap what the deal is.

I'll bear with you, just make sure you say its okay, lol.
 10/23/2007 12:27:45 PM · #25
Originally posted by Janae_Cooper:

I'll bear with you, just make sure you say its okay, lol.


I like the way you think :-)
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