Enforce "Nude" flag on voting please...WARNING

10/18/2007 01:50:04 PM · #51

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10/18/2007 01:50:05 PM · #52

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Nudity however, encourages sinful thoughts and perhaps actions. Again, I don't think many would see nudity and then rape someone, that's not the point. However nudity promotes lust, which is a sin -- in many faiths including Christianity. So while something is natural and beautiful between married people, it is also not for public display.
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As for skewing votes, I still disagree. If anything it would help prevent us "prudes" from voting down such images -- which we can still vote on if we want this suggestion just insures that our random scrolling does not popup unwanted images.

Nudity in itself is pure. Your mind and your upbringing relate it to sexuality. A child that sucks mother's breast doesn't become sexually aroused. In reality, real reality, the taboo of nudity promotes the lustful thoughts.

It's sexually arousing to see a nude figure because we only equate people being nude with the act of sex. It's in the mind and certainly not by God's design.

If you believe the Bible, it was sin that brought shame to being nude, not vice versa.

I'm a Christian myself, but I do not subscribe to nude = lust. I can work for hours with a nude model and never become aroused. You could say I've become de-sensitized. Or, it might be because I just don't believe every nude woman wants to have sex with me.

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About skewing the votes... imagine how disappointed you would be, if my DnMC nude ended up on the front page with only 30 votes, but with a 9.6 average.

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10/18/2007 01:51:45 PM · #53

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Nudity in itself is pure. Your mind and your upbringing relate it to sexuality. A child that sucks mother's breast doesn't become sexually aroused. In reality, real reality, the taboo of nudity promotes the lustful thoughts.

It's sexually arousing to see a nude figure because we only equate people being nude with the act of sex. It's in the mind and certainly not by God's design.

If you believe the Bible, it was sin that brought shame to being nude, not vice versa.

I'm a Christian myself, but I do not subscribe to nude = lust. I can work for hours with a nude model and never become aroused.

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About skewing the votes... imagine how disappointed you would be, if my DnMC nude ended up on the front page with only 30 votes, but with a 9.6 average.

Well said Leroy! Hear Hear!!!

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10/18/2007 01:54:13 PM · #54

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
Word. And you also knew there where nudes and the ruleset behind them when you paid $25 to be a member here.

So the site can never improve after the first person paid $25? Right now I work around it -- it would be better if we didn't have to.

The site already improved by adding the checkbox. But it always seems you give people an inch they wanna take a mile.

10/18/2007 01:55:39 PM · #55

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10/18/2007 01:56:27 PM · #56

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10/18/2007 02:06:26 PM · #57

"Nudity however, encourages sinful thoughts and perhaps actions. Again, I don't think many would see nudity and then rape someone, that's not the point. However nudity promotes lust, which is a sin -- in many faiths including Christianity. So while something is natural and beautiful between married people, it is also not for public display."

OMG! Have you ever studied Christian art?

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10/18/2007 02:07:09 PM · #58

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Correct, Adam and Eve were nude -- until they sinned and then it was shameful. That shame is still with us today.

As for you working around nude models, then so be it for you. But the images you create are more than likely having a different effect. So you would be causing your brother to stumble.

I would not be disappointed if your image won -- well if it DNMC I would, but I THEN would not have to see it because the flag WORKS at that point. :)

Let me ask you this. There are 10 commandments and 7 deadly sins. Other than Genesis stating that Adam and Eve were ashame, Where else is it stated by God that being nude is a sin? Where does it state that nude is to be equated to lust.

Lust is a sin, according to the Bible. But lust, my friend, comes from within us. Lust also is not only about sexuality. You can lust for anything. Many here lust for a ribbon.gif.

IMO, the stumbling block is to keep up the taboo that promotes lust. The church has committed all sorts of atrocities against God and man, this taboo just might be one of those.

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You would look. I'm sure you would just have to know what won.

10/18/2007 02:07:33 PM · #59

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10/18/2007 02:08:52 PM · #60

Originally posted by jbsmithana:

OMG! Have you ever studied Christian art?

Yeah, I believe Michaelangelo, among many, would certainly disagree.

thegrandwazoo

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10/18/2007 02:10:13 PM · #61

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by jbsmithana:

OMG! Have you ever studied Christian art?

Yeah, I believe Michelangelo, among many, would certainly disagree.

You can't answer until you spell Christian correctly...

*OMG I can't believe we are having the discussion again...*

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10/18/2007 02:11:13 PM · #62

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10/18/2007 02:16:24 PM · #63

Seriously, people, the issue is not about God or Christianity or art or lust.

It's that everyone agrees that a responsible adult/parent/person should decide when adult content is acceptable and when it is not.

The checkbox, however, does not fulfill it's purpose in giving people this responsible choice. It falls short, in favor of "fairness", which admittedly will be circumvented anyway.

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10/18/2007 02:17:44 PM · #64

Originally posted by zeuszen:

I'd rather have my kids behold the human form than having to indulge in pictures void of anything but glitz and false sentiments.

I would have to agree with this statement, esp where DPC is concerned... there are rules in place to prevent a full on private part view, and nursing mothers are in public all the time so what's wrong with a few breasts here and there? None of the nuditiy I have seen around here is tasteless... in fact, very few of the nudes around here are nude just for the sake of being nude... most of them celebrate the beauty and lines of the human form, are intended to convey a specific message, or are to invoke a strong emotional response in the viewer.

Just my $0.02 :)

ETA: There are also no sexual acts photos here. Not allowed :)

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10/18/2007 02:19:28 PM · #65

This far in and no one has said "Dead Horse?"

10/18/2007 02:20:07 PM · #66

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10/18/2007 02:21:10 PM · #67

What is up this week? Two threads claiming that DPC has inappropriate content in two days.

Simple solution: Don't like what you see you can leave.

I for one am very tired of people claiming its DPC's fault for this content. I don't want to see pictures of puppies and flowers all the time. I want something that actually leaves me with something to think about or even better something to talk about.

This is art, nudity and photography have been closely related since the camera came to be. It takes a lot of talent to do nude photography well.

If you are viewing pictures with a child, you know that nudity could be present at any time so either scan first or don't allow the child to view with you.

At first I thought this site should be 18+, but now Im not so sure. The two threads this week about content have all been posted by adults who can't seem to handle provocative images.

10/18/2007 02:23:09 PM · #68

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

If you think of having sex with a woman that is not your wife, even if you don't do it, you have sinned in your heart. The principle in Scripture is very clear. Noah's son saw him naked and there was shame in even that.

Noah's son was a pervert then. Really, don't go misquoting verse. I will shoot you down.

I can have sex in my heart without ever having seen a woman nude. I can have lust for a woman that doesn't even exist. The sin is not in the art, the sin is in your heart. Period. You stated it yourself just now and it had nothing to do with nude art.

10/18/2007 02:23:46 PM · #69

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10/18/2007 02:24:46 PM · #70

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10/18/2007 02:25:17 PM · #71

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

If you think of having sex with a woman that is not your wife, even if you don't do it, you have sinned in your heart. The principle in Scripture is very clear. Noah's son saw him naked and there was shame in even that.

Noah's son was a pervert then. Really, don't go misquoting verse. I will shoot you down.

I can have sex in my heart without ever having seen a woman nude. I can have lust for a woman that doesn't even exist. The sin is not in the art, the sin is in your heart. Period. You stated it yourself just now and it had nothing to do with nude art.

Ah, a scripture twister. This will go nowhere.

Where the hell is the religious zealotry flag.

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10/18/2007 02:25:33 PM · #72

Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

At first I thought this site should be 18+, but now Im not so sure. The two threads this week about content have all been posted by adults who can't seem to handle provocative images.

Amen!

ursula

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10/18/2007 02:28:25 PM · #73

Please keep it clean. No insults. Telling someone that they might have a porn addiction is an insult.

violinist123

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10/18/2007 02:29:11 PM · #74

Originally posted by ursula:

Please keep it clean. No insults. Telling someone that they might have a porn addiction is an insult.

Lol!