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10/17/2007 09:32:10 PM · #51

Spaz, don't take my further silence as concession, just that I'm in no mood for your childish form of debate. I'm not even in a mood to debate, just stating how I feel. Anyway, have fun.

Thread ignore.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

10/17/2007 09:39:53 PM · #52

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
It's fed up with people blaming everyone else for their failed lives.

That's not what you said earlier.

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I have no sympathy for anyone who would sit in a warehouse job with little pay and no hope of promotion.

The later statement condemns those who are unhappy, yet unwilling to do anything to rectify the situation.

Your first statement condemns warehouse workers who make low wages and have little hope for advancement.

There's a world of difference.

I disagree. Both statements indicate that Leroy has no sympathy/patience with those who are stuck in low-paying, dead-end jobs, especially those who complain about them. Presumably he believes that anyone with an ounce of gumption will work his/her way up the ladder to something better, and anyone who doesn't has basically given up, and has no cause to whine.

I'm not saying I agree with Leroy, just that I don't think the statements contradict each other; indeed, I think they complement each other.

R.

neophyte

Nikon D810

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10/17/2007 09:44:48 PM · #53

Originally posted by dwterry:

The thing is ... I figure that if you came into the country illegally, then you should "have no civil claim" in the courts of this land against another citizen. (i.e. if your status is illegal, you can't sue to get paid more)

Thank Heavens this isnt true.

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

How unfair is that?? What about people who were born stupid?? Shouldn't they have an equal chance for advancement? What about people who choose to be stupid?? Why should they be penalized for an intellectually alternative lifestyle?
[/sarcasm]

The iron law of oligarchy can't be denied, Even in the teeth of the monster called capitalism.

10/17/2007 09:58:36 PM · #54

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

I take your silence as welcome.

10/17/2007 10:04:38 PM · #55

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
It's fed up with people blaming everyone else for their failed lives.

That's not what you said earlier.

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I have no sympathy for anyone who would sit in a warehouse job with little pay and no hope of promotion.

The later statement condemns those who are unhappy, yet unwilling to do anything to rectify the situation.

Your first statement condemns warehouse workers who make low wages and have little hope for advancement.

There's a world of difference.

I disagree. Both statements indicate that Leroy has no sympathy/patience with those who are stuck in low-paying, dead-end jobs, especially those who complain about them. Presumably he believes that anyone with an ounce of gumption will work his/her way up the ladder to something better, and anyone who doesn't has basically given up, and has no cause to whine.

I'm not saying I agree with Leroy, just that I don't think the statements contradict each other; indeed, I think they complement each other.

R.

A person, working at a warehouse in that low-paying, dead end job simply as a way to earn a living while looking for something better would earn Leroy's contempt per his first statement, but not his second. So would a person for whom that warehouse job was the pinnacle of their capability. Therein lies the contradiction.

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10/18/2007 09:03:38 AM · #56

Spaz are you a defense attorney? or just a guy with too much free time?

I'm gonna forward my boy O.J. your contact info, the lawyer that saved his ass with twisting facts and baffled bullshit died last year, and hes gotten himself into a little trouble, so he could probably use your help on this.

Message edited by author 2007-10-18 09:04:36.

_eug

Nikon D50

10/18/2007 11:16:59 AM · #57

It's a minor blemish on their reputation IMO. It's sad that as a predominantly "minority" company (i.e. a minority that was once heavily persecuted) they do something like this.

It won't change my buying habits. They are the best, either online or in line (or online as they say in NY. wacky New Yorkers.)

pawdrix

Nikon D700

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10/18/2007 11:53:20 AM · #58

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

"...an intellectually alternative lifestyle?"
[/sarcasm]

LOLOLOL.

Oh man, am I gonna get mileage out of that one.

10/18/2007 12:48:35 PM · #59

Originally posted by ajdelaware:

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

10/18/2007 12:49:31 PM · #60

Exxxactly.

If Fotomann disagrees, he obviously supports hebs?

Thats your closing line right there baby. PUT IT IN THE BOOKS.

10/18/2007 12:52:18 PM · #61

I dunno what Leroy's position is, so far he's made 2 different statements on the matter.

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10/18/2007 12:54:08 PM · #62

Then obviously he is a nazi sympathizer, duh. ITS SO CLEAR. SO CLEAR TO EVERYONE. EVERYONE BUT YOU!

klkitchens

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Pentax FA 50mm f/1.4 AF

10/18/2007 12:57:12 PM · #63

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

When you play with fire, you will get burnt!

Or refried.

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

10/18/2007 01:21:17 PM · #64

I won't shop at B&H anymore. But that's only because I can usually find the same item cheaper elsewhere from a reliable vender.

10/18/2007 01:38:30 PM · #65

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I dunno what Leroy's position is, so far he's made 2 different statements on the matter.

Interesting that you would rather attack my opinion than to have your own.

You know, I grow rather tired of you following me around just being contradictory. Your efforts have become nothing more than annoying. They certainly aren't intellectual. I'd equate them to "I know you are, but what am I."

Now excuse me while I go better my financial standing.

10/18/2007 02:04:00 PM · #66

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I dunno what Leroy's position is, so far he's made 2 different statements on the matter.

Interesting that you would rather attack my opinion than to have your own.

You know, I grow rather tired of you following me around just being contradictory. Your efforts have become nothing more than annoying. They certainly aren't intellectual. I'd equate them to "I know you are, but what am I."

Now excuse me while I go better my financial standing.

I don't follow you around. Why would I?

As for your insults, I think they say more about the kind of person you are than anyone else.

My opinion, since you asked, is that condemning someone because of their station in life, at best, shows a lack of compassion. It certainly doesn't reflect well on those who hold and profess such opinions.

Good luck with it.

10/18/2007 02:16:01 PM · #67

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I don't follow you around. Why would I?

As for your insults, I think they say more about the kind of person you are than anyone else.

You do. I could list thread after thread where your only purpose was to state a contradiction to my opinion. And that you focused entirely on me rather than the subject. I wouldn't even be back in this thread if I hadn't received a PM that you were up to your normal acts. Perhaps you are bored, or perhaps it's jealousy, I don't know. Really don't care, just would like for you to stop.

As for my insults, they reflect exactly what I think of you, nothing more.

Even the opinion you just formed just now is nothing but a contradiction to what you believe is mine. I doubt you even read the OP. Your "opinion" certainly doesn't indicate that you have.

10/18/2007 02:27:26 PM · #68

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I don't follow you around. Why would I?

As for your insults, I think they say more about the kind of person you are than anyone else.

You do. I could list thread after thread where your only purpose was to state a contradiction to my opinion. And that you focused entirely on me rather than the subject. I wouldn't even be back in this thread if I hadn't received a PM that you were up to your normal acts. Perhaps you are bored, or perhaps it's jealousy, I don't know. Really don't care, just would like for you to stop.

As for my insults, they reflect exactly what I think of you, nothing more.

Even the opinion you just formed just now is nothing but a contradiction to what you believe is mine. I doubt you even read the OP. Your "opinion" certainly doesn't indicate that you have.

Maybe it's you following me around. Are you actually keeping track of when I disagree with some of the preposterous things you state?

And, rest assured, I hold you in equally high regard.

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10/18/2007 02:50:35 PM · #69

Spaz, I'd be willing to say "Ok, you are right", if you'd just go away. But, I think your response would be "No, I'm not!"

sher

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

10/18/2007 02:54:37 PM · #70

ok...enough. if you two can't control yourselves, you'll be taking a leave of absence from forum posting. i'm sick to death of these pissing contests.