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09/11/2003 12:06:42 AM · #1

sweet! another speed challenge...just hope the date range is a typo...

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

09/11/2003 12:07:31 AM · #2

Nope. 24 hour speed challenge. I love 'em. Can't think what to shoot, but I love 'em.

Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DL Aspherical IF Hyperzoom for Canon

09/11/2003 12:07:54 AM · #3

nevermind...I'm an idiot. I didn't realize it was after midnight =`)~

rickhd13

Canon EOS-20D

09/11/2003 12:13:34 AM · #4

Damn

13 minutes into it and there is an entry already

09/11/2003 12:15:38 AM · #5

i saw that - someone must have remote captured a shot of something in the room that they were currently in :)

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

09/11/2003 12:50:24 AM · #6

I just hope people don't vote down just because there are flags in the shot. Of course we're gonna see some, and this is a time that it is completely appropriate (I'm not entering one, so this isn't just to pump up my entry).

09/11/2003 12:51:43 AM · #7

i don't think people will vote down for that - especially since the challenge description specifically mentions 9/11.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/11/2003 01:38:12 AM · #8

I'd like to see some flags from countries that really have freedom.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

09/11/2003 01:45:15 AM · #9

Originally posted by irockstars:

I'd like to see some flags from countries that really have freedom.

such as???

ScottK

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

09/11/2003 02:19:55 AM · #10

Originally posted by xhoss:

i don't think people will vote down for that - especially since the challenge description specifically mentions 9/11.

You underestimate the anti-american bias around here - from within and without. Just look at irockstars comment.

And, btw, fwiw, I'd love to see flags from anyone who's proud of the freedoms they have in their country.

thelsel

Fujifilm FinePix S602Z

09/11/2003 02:39:27 AM · #11

Originally posted by irockstars:

I'd like to see some flags from countries that really have freedom.

...and how much American blood was spilt freeing them?

09/11/2003 02:39:49 AM · #12

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by irockstars:
I'd like to see some flags from countries that really have freedom.

such as???

One example would be our good neighbors to the north!

09/11/2003 02:44:39 AM · #13

Originally posted by ScottK:

Originally posted by xhoss:
i don't think people will vote down for that - especially since the challenge description specifically mentions 9/11.

You underestimate the anti-american bias around here - from within and without. Just look at irockstars comment.

And, btw, fwiw, I'd love to see flags from anyone who's proud of the freedoms they have in their country.

I'm not anti-american. I just don't think we're better than anyone else.

thelsel

Fujifilm FinePix S602Z

09/11/2003 02:51:36 AM · #14

Originally posted by irockstars:

Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by xhoss:
i don't think people will vote down for that - especially since the challenge description specifically mentions 9/11.

You underestimate the anti-american bias around here - from within and without. Just look at irockstars comment.

And, btw, fwiw, I'd love to see flags from anyone who's proud of the freedoms they have in their country.

I'm not anti-american. I just don't think we're better than anyone else.

But your statement implies that weâ��re worse then everyone else.

09/11/2003 03:01:17 AM · #15

Originally posted by thelsel:

But your statement implies that weâ��re worse then everyone else.

No it doesn't. I just think we have a long way to go, as far as freedom in concerned.

09/11/2003 03:01:52 AM · #16

thelsel - you hit the nail on the head. America helps out so many nations...only to be hated later...apparently our money is o.k. but we are not?

...And in other news: France surrenders...Canada has a two for one immigration special for known terrorist states...and....

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

09/11/2003 03:04:01 AM · #17

irock - i think our freedoms are great and plentiful. I just think that we have to watch out for them...politicians are more than happy to take them away...

ScottK

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

09/11/2003 03:05:13 AM · #18

Maybe I misread your comment. When you said "I'd like to see some flags from countries that really have freedom", that certainly seemed to imply that America has no freedom, or has significantly less freedom than other countries.

And, we're not better than anyone else? We're not better than Iraq under Saddam Husein? Than Afganastan under the Taliban? Than Uganda under Idi Amin? Than the old Soviet Union? Than North Korea? Hmmm. That's not even worthy of arguement.

Maybe you meant to say we're not better than everyone else? OK, I can agree with that, at least in a general, divine-right type sense. But from a standpoint of freedom, liberty and ideology, we're head and shoulders above quite a bit of the world.

edit:
Whoops! Took longer answering that than I thought. This was in response to the comment: "I'm not anti-american. I just don't think we're better than anyone else."

Message edited by author 2003-09-11 03:07:55.

thelsel

Fujifilm FinePix S602Z

09/11/2003 03:14:13 AM · #19

Originally posted by xhoss:

irock - i think our freedoms are great and plentiful. I just think that we have to watch out for them...politicians are more than happy to take them away...

If come to California illegally, you might end up with more rights then itâ��s citizens. Free healthcare, public assistance, tax refunds...

ScottK

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

09/11/2003 03:29:58 AM · #20

...driver's license, the right to vote, immunity from arrest and/or prosecution....

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/11/2003 11:52:52 PM · #21

Originally posted by irockstars:

Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by irockstars:
I'd like to see some flags from countries that really have freedom.

such as???

One example would be our good neighbors to the north!

Hmmm, the last time I was in Canada, I still had to obey traffic laws, stop at customs, obey rules. I wasn't free to do whatever I wanted. I think I am totally missing your point irock.

Koriyama

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

09/12/2003 12:09:27 AM · #22

Originally posted by xhoss:

thelsel - you hit the nail on the head. America helps out so many nations...only to be hated later...apparently our money is o.k. but we are not?

America helps with a very important caveat: the condition that the helped adopts American modes. Only those that sacrifice their culture (to some extent) can be allies.

'You're either with us, or against us'.

Not my idea of freedom.

09/12/2003 12:59:09 AM · #23

Originally posted by karmat:

Hmmm, the last time I was in Canada, I still had to obey traffic laws, stop at customs, obey rules. I wasn't free to do whatever I wanted. I think I am totally missing your point irock.

Of course there are still rules. Without traffic laws you'd surely get into more accidents, etc.
They have the freedom of living in less fear. Without getting into terrorist attacks or school shootings, how about everyday things like... they don't have to worry about medical bills if they were to become ill.