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magenmarie

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

10/08/2007 12:31:02 PM · #1

HI dpc friends. ;)

So, I have a shoot on Sunday for a big family. 13 People to be exact. YIKES! So, they are going to want a bunch of edited photos after. I offer 2 edited photos in my session fee. But, I'm not sure how much to charge for any beyond that. Any suggestions?

How much do you all charge for editing a photo? Do you charge by the hour?

Any suggestions are welcome!

Also, any suggestions on how to pose them? 13 people is more than I've ever shot at one time.

Nusbaum

Fujifilm X-T1

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

10/08/2007 12:39:52 PM · #2

I have no advice on how to shoot 13 people, but I will comment on charging for editing. I've encountered a similar problem with a client wanting many more edits than I had ever expected. In this case I negotiated a price for the complete set of work rather than breaking it down to a per hour or per images price. It's just my opinion, but I don't want to reduce my photography to an hourly rate because it starts people down the path of photography as simply work for hire. I still photography as a creative pursuit and the value is in the end result rather than the hours it took to get there.

geoffb

10/08/2007 01:00:08 PM · #3

Originally posted by magenmarie:

HI dpc friends. ;)

So, I have a shoot on Sunday for a big family. 13 People to be exact. ... any suggestions on how to pose them? 13 people is more than I've ever shot at one time.

Try your best to put heads at as many different heights as possible; putting all the heads at the same height creates a static horizontal line. Also, since you have an odd number, does the group offer you the opportunity to base 12 people (six per side) around a central, "key" person?

(Edit to elaborate.)

Message edited by author 2007-10-08 13:01:53.

renefunk

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

10/08/2007 01:05:52 PM · #4

Originally posted by magenmarie:

how much was your original price??

NVPhoto

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

10/08/2007 01:20:58 PM · #5

charge for prints.. $15/ 8x10 etc... Or charge a flat rate for a CD. I don't know how much experience you have doing freelance work so a specific number is hard to pinpoint.

My general rule of thumbs is if you are just starting out selling your work, exceed their expectations as best you can. Maybe thats cheaper prices or more bang for the buck, its up to you. Do this well and it will drive more business.

I personally don't put a price on everything individually. I would never tell someone that its a $50 sitting fee + $20/hr editing + $100 for a CD + $.... Just give them a price for the entire job.

I did a family portrait, 40+ people. I charged them $50 for the sitting fee and charged by the print. It took about 3 months before I got an order, but since then I have made close to $800 off these folks.

brens29

Canon EOS-50D

Quantaray AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 High-Speed for Canon EOS

10/08/2007 01:22:07 PM · #6

Here is a link to a blog, scroll down to Matt and Jen's wedding about the middle of the blog, there is a great group shot of the wedding party. If you continue to scroll down you will see a few more different versions of group photos, I think these are really catchy to look at a lot different then your ordinary group shots.
Goup photo

Thinking about trying them at my next wedding shoot

Message edited by author 2007-10-08 13:22:25.

jpochard

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

10/08/2007 01:36:21 PM · #7

I agree with Justin about the pricing. My print prices all include editing. My print prices are: (4x6)$4.00 (5x7) $9.00 (8x10) $20.00 (11x14) $30.00 8 wallets (12.50) and special collages 11x14 ($40.00.) I also offer the complete 4x6 print files on CD for $290 or $150 w/ purchase of at least $150 worth of prints. If they want any larger files put on the CD, I charge $10 per file to add them and don't make the collages available on the CD at all.

I don't charge a sitting fee, but make all of my profit through print orders. That is my pricing for seniors and other regular type portraits. It's a bit different for weddings. For weddings, I do require a non-refundable $250 fee/deposit for my time that does not include any prints. The print prices are the same as above except a CD is $350, or $150 w/ $300 print order. I require 1/2 total of the print order at the time they place the order.

I don't have much experience, but have found this pricing to work very well for me.

As for editing, on senior or family photos I ask a bit ahead of time how heavy they want editing (especially seniors.)

Good luck with your shoot and perhaps you can post your results here.

magenmarie

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

10/08/2007 01:50:36 PM · #8

Wow. Thanks for the great advice, everybody. I really appreciate it.

My price for them is $50 which includes a cd with all the images, plus 2 edited photos of their choice.

I am definitely trying to keep in very inexpensive since i'm just starting out.

Hmmm....there's so many good suggestions about what to do that now I still can't make up my mind! haha.

renefunk

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

10/08/2007 02:03:47 PM · #9

Originally posted by magenmarie:

50 buks is really low, you can charge maybe 10 $ more per edited photo.
i thing they wont matter :)

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/08/2007 02:59:20 PM · #10

Tip for the day: Take multiple shots in succession. If you're using strobes, you'll have to wait for the strobes to recycle, of course. But otherwise, take several shots in a row of each "setting" that you do.

You may only show them one of each setting (that's okay), but keep the extras around "just in case". What for? You ask. I'll tell you:

1) The bigger the group, the more likely somebody will blink. Extra shots means you can "swap heads" (or even just eyes) as necessary.

2) Not only do they blink, but it's difficult to get them to all look at you. Especially the adults! Kids are used to being told what to do. Adults think they know better. They'll look at each other. They'll crack jokes. They'll spend all their time trying to control the kids when, if they'd just let you do it, the kids would be fine. Anyway, same point as #1. This lets you swap heads and/or body positions as necessary to get everyone looking at you.

3) Use a tripod. For big groups it means that the camera at least stays still even if the people move around. That makes it easier to swap heads/bodies as necessary. And try not to change focal lengths (or if you do, remember to take several shots at each focal length).

4) Sometimes you mess up! Sometimes you don't focus in the right location. If you're on a tripod, I recommend you set focus and switch the lens to manual so that the focus doesn't change! But if you're in auto focus, make sure that what YOU want in focus is covered by the AF sensor that you're using (center point, whatever). If you just let the camera pick the focus point, it may pick a different one each time you press the shutter! So multiple shots will help out here. But if you change to manual focus you'll be better off.

Anyway, 13 really isn't all that many. And I wouldn't stress over it. But the bigger the group, the more the above ideas apply.

Also, some of the best shots are outside the setting. Take along a spare camera with a long lens and shoot candids and/or closeups of the kids. Extra sales. :-)

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