430 EX Off Camera? - DPChallenge Forums

09/14/2007 03:28:05 PM · #1

Can the 430 EX be used off camera in any way?

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/14/2007 03:28:51 PM · #2

I use my 430EX with a ST-E2 Wireless transmitter.

So to answer your question....yes.......buy one of these:

//www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/164264-REG/Canon_2478A002_ST_E2_Transmitter.html

or buy one of these:

//www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/486706-USA/Canon_1946B002_580EX_II_Flash.html

Message edited by author 2007-09-14 15:30:19.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

09/14/2007 03:31:34 PM · #3

Yep, I use mine with pocketwizards.

OdysseyF22

Panasonic DC-G9

Olympus 12-45mm f/4.0 Pro

09/14/2007 03:32:34 PM · #4

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Yep, I use mine with pocketwizards.

You have a PC to hotshoe cord for that, right? Or did you find another way?

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/14/2007 03:37:35 PM · #5

Yeah a little hotshoe that I can mount on a stand. Cable hangs out of that and plugs into the pocketwizard. I have a pc to 1/8" adapter,but you can get the hotshoes with the proper 1/8" cable end native, they just didn't have one where I went and, of course, I didn't want to wait.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/14/2007 03:39:52 PM · #6

SO what would be my cheapest method to start using this thing off camera? Apparently there are multiple ways to do it, which is the cheapest and does anyone have a link to purchase online?

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

09/14/2007 03:45:45 PM · #7

Pocketwizards pair is about 360 bucks. Not sure what the wireless transmitter from canon costs. You can also trigger it remotely by using a 580EX. Not sure what that costs either but I imagine more than either of the other two. All have pros and cons. Big pro about pocket wizards is no line of sight requirement and they work up to about a quarter mile apart.

09/14/2007 03:47:37 PM · #8

This is your cheapest method:

//www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12972-REG/Canon_2391A001_Off_Camera_Shoe_Cord.html

but it won't get you far off camera

I suggest looking for a ST-E2 used. I got mine for $150

09/14/2007 09:44:17 PM · #9

Thanks, I think I'm going to get an ST-E2.

So with the ST-E2, I put it on my camera and set my 430EX to slave mode right? And when I hit the shutter it fires the flash? Is it basically that simple?

What if I have two flashes? Will it fire both of them at the same time?

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/14/2007 11:18:58 PM · #10

Originally posted by KevinG:

Yes simple as that. It should fire both.

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II

09/15/2007 12:28:26 AM · #11

Originally posted by KevinG:

SO what would be my cheapest method to start using this thing off camera? Apparently there are multiple ways to do it, which is the cheapest and does anyone have a link to purchase online?

This is the cheapest but make sure you understand (and make sure you get the v2's that work with the 430EX). This will be all manual (like the PW's) and unlike the PW these guys miss shots sometimes and might have a lower then max sync speed. Mine are mostly good but I cannot shoot at max sync and I still get hal-frames at times. The STE2 will allow ETTL, although personally I would get a 580 over the STE2 since you will need more then 1 flash anyway for a lot of applications.

Message edited by author 2007-09-15 00:29:40.

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

09/15/2007 05:10:24 PM · #12

Can you use the 580EX II off camera without a sync cord or transmitter in any way? I don't understand how the 580EX will trip the 430EX...unless of course it is sitting on the camera - but the whole point is to not have the flash come from on camera right?

scarbrd

Leica M10

09/15/2007 05:14:40 PM · #13

Originally posted by KevinG:

Without a cord or the ST-E2 the 580 will have to be on the camera. You can still bounce the 580 and use the 430 for a back light, high key light or fill.

09/15/2007 06:29:47 PM · #14

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by KevinG:
Can you use the 580EX II off camera without a sync cord or transmitter in any way? I don't understand how the 580EX will trip the 430EX...unless of course it is sitting on the camera - but the whole point is to not have the flash come from on camera right?

Without a cord or the ST-E2 the 580 will have to be on the camera. You can still bounce the 580 and use the 430 for a back light, high key light or fill.

You can also cover up the 580EX while it is on camera. I think it is best to buy a ST-E2 and then eventuially buy another 430EX flash becasue you can set mor power to one and both will be off camera.

Message edited by author 2007-09-15 19:01:04.

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

09/15/2007 11:13:45 PM · #15

I think I'm going to start with the fake pocket wizards that some of the Strobist people use (cactus v2), eventually moving to the new pocket wizard transceivers.

Anyone use the cactus v2's before?

The pocket wizards are too expensive.

scarbrd

Leica M10

09/15/2007 11:58:25 PM · #16

Originally posted by KevinG:

ST-E2 is one of my favorite items in my bag

MelonMusketeer

Nikon D7000

Nikon MF 50mm f/1.4

09/16/2007 12:07:48 AM · #17

If you don't need TTL metering ect, check eBay, "Cameras" for "Remote flash trigger" they start at about $5 and up.