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08/25/2007 12:49:07 AM · #1


That's a portrait of my daughter. Anyways, in photoshop the colors look accurate, but when I save it to jpeg it seems to change. Doesn't look right to me. I've tried saving for web and save as, I always get the same result... Do the colours look wrong to anyone else? If so, is there away around saving a jpeg and having the colors change slightly?
08/25/2007 12:53:58 AM · #2
Seems to be a yellow cast to the shot. Have you tried a curves layer? When you save it, what mode (image > mode) is it in? Try changing it to lab color then save for web and see if that helps.

08/25/2007 01:06:49 AM · #3
Originally posted by naldslc:

Seems to be a yellow cast to the shot. Have you tried a curves layer? When you save it, what mode (image > mode) is it in? Try changing it to lab color then save for web and see if that helps.


I've tried curves, and color balance. So far it seems anything that will remove the yellow cast will make her face look slightly green and somewhat like a zombie. But I'll try changing the color mode. Never thought of that, thanks.
08/25/2007 01:48:27 AM · #4
How about a simple white balance adjustment?

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08/25/2007 05:40:39 AM · #5
how did you do a white balance adjustment
08/25/2007 05:49:02 AM · #6
There are a number of ways and add-on filters/actions, but in this case, all it took was a cooling photo filter (#82) and adjusted it's strength to about 15%. Can do same/similar with Image, Levels, Options, and use the eyedroppers to set Black, White and Neutral levels.

Message edited by author 2007-08-25 05:50:29.
08/25/2007 08:03:19 AM · #7
Originally posted by Brad:

How about a simple white balance adjustment?

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Well, maybe in 25 years and with Brads editing.

I couldn't resist ;)

Message edited by author 2007-08-25 08:04:37.
08/25/2007 08:27:27 AM · #8
Originally posted by Atropos:



If so, is there away around saving a jpeg and having the colors change slightly?


Yes there is. I have had this problem in the past and it depends on what color settings you have in photoshop.

If your colors seem washed out after saving but are fine in photoshop then the problem will be in your color profiles.

The way I fixed this problem was to select Image - Mode - Convert to Profile and then check your source profile and your destination profile.If you have your source profile as Adobe RGB (1998) then select sRGB as the destination and then when you save the image as a jpeg the colors will be fine.
08/25/2007 09:03:05 AM · #9
The real problem is with the handling of color spaces on most computers.

If the file has embedded color space data saved, Photoshop will read the color profile and display the image correctly (even for jpegs). However, no current browsers do this and many other image viewers don't either. Since the native color space for the web is sRGB, converting your images that will be viewed on the web to this profile will fix the problem whereby embedding this profile will not.

For a good writeup of the problem, let me recommend Jeffrey Friedl's writeup. Long, but worth reading.
08/25/2007 09:21:11 AM · #10
Make SURE that when you are working in photoshop which colorspace you are working in. Chances are, you are using Adobe RGB in photoshop which is perfectly fine in PS. BUT, if you convert to JPEG the color mapping will be off...by a LOT. Reds especially, start to clip.

Therefore, make sure that you convert to sRGB before saving a jpeg.

Originally posted by Atropos:



That's a portrait of my daughter. Anyways, in photoshop the colors look accurate, but when I save it to jpeg it seems to change. Doesn't look right to me. I've tried saving for web and save as, I always get the same result... Do the colours look wrong to anyone else? If so, is there away around saving a jpeg and having the colors change slightly?
08/25/2007 10:53:43 AM · #11
maybe you should invest in a real camera...


08/25/2007 10:58:30 AM · #12
Originally posted by soup:

maybe you should invest in a real camera...


You know after all of this posters slams on canon camera's as of late, I wondered how long it would take for one of these posts to show up. (actually I almost did it myself but held back)

Now to go back on topic I have to agree that your AWB didnt do very well and you have a white balance issue. If you are going to use an artificial light source you need to set a custom white balance and you wont have that issue, or shoot raw and make the adjustment after capture.

MattO
08/25/2007 12:02:18 PM · #13
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by soup:

maybe you should invest in a real camera...


You know after all of this posters slams on canon camera's as of late, I wondered how long it would take for one of these posts to show up. (actually I almost did it myself but held back)

He he he.... same for me ;-)
08/25/2007 12:09:49 PM · #14
well i don't think he'd expect to avert the inevitable...


08/25/2007 04:40:09 PM · #15
Originally posted by soup:

maybe you should invest in a real camera...


Ya. This helps a lot. Instead of explaining how one can avoid the problems (Canon has white balance issues too...), perhaps you could actually give him some good advice.

I struggled with this too for a while. Here is one thing I found that you can try.

In Photoshop, go to Edit -> Color Settings. Make sure it is set to ask you when there is any mismatch in the color profiles when an image is opened.

Your camera may be saving them in sRGB and you're re-converting them to sRGB. I'm not sure what this would do.

Good luck!

Message edited by author 2007-08-25 16:41:57.
08/25/2007 05:22:59 PM · #16
Originally posted by mjwood0:

Originally posted by soup:

maybe you should invest in a real camera...


Ya. This helps a lot. Instead of explaining how one can avoid the problems (Canon has white balance issues too...), perhaps you could actually give him some good advice.


It's a jab at the OP's posting history...
08/25/2007 09:23:29 PM · #17
Originally posted by option:

Originally posted by mjwood0:

Originally posted by soup:

maybe you should invest in a real camera...


Ya. This helps a lot. Instead of explaining how one can avoid the problems (Canon has white balance issues too...), perhaps you could actually give him some good advice.


It's a jab at the OP's posting history...


Wow, did you guys research my posts before posting here or am I just that memorable? It's all in good fun. I don't dislike Canon anyways. Kinda like how I always bash the Calgary Flames but when they're in the playoffs and Edmonton is not, I cheer for them.

And thanks for the help everyone. The color profile was the issue, and I have since corrected it and made a beautiful print which now hangs on my living room wall. Now I just need one each of the other two kids to complete this project. Thanks again, folks.
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