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08/17/2007 11:20:30 PM · #26
I've done the same thing on more than one occassion. One time it ruined a once in a lifetime photo opportunity. I was in the Edmonton River Valley near the city center. I was taking some shots of flowers when I looked over and saw an enormous moose with a young one trailing it. They casually walked to within about fifteen feet of me. I was scared out of my wits but I snapped some shots anyways, careful not to make any sudden movements. Would have been beautiful shots, complete with reflections of the moose as they drank from the river. Of course, I had an old point an shoot back then, and had forgot to set it back on autofocus.

So, I got some pictures of some giant brown blobs.
08/17/2007 11:40:09 PM · #27
Originally posted by LevT:

I don't know why would I ever use P-mode instead of A (aperture priority, that is). A-mode is still automatic,in a sense that it selects the shutter speed for you, so not much thinking is involved after you set the mode up anyway. If I want to go even more "automatic", I'd rather do auto-ISO, because a bit of extra noise can be dealt with later, but a wrong aperture - can't. When I shoot candids, I generally like to set the widest aperture available, mostly to isolate my subject (and increase the shutter speed, too).


How do you do auto ISO with the D200?
08/17/2007 11:43:54 PM · #28
Originally posted by ursula:


How do you do auto ISO with the D200?

Its b1, the first thing you see when you click on Metering/exposure menu tab. :)
08/17/2007 11:45:47 PM · #29
Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by ursula:


How do you do auto ISO with the D200?

Its b1, the first thing you see when you click on Metering/exposure menu tab. :)


Wow, duh!!!! Thanks! :)

PS - see? I had a "mind goes blank" moment here.

Message edited by author 2007-08-17 23:46:22.
08/17/2007 11:50:11 PM · #30
Originally posted by ursula:

PS - see? I had a "mind goes blank" moment here.

But this isn't public. This is DPC... ;)
08/17/2007 11:51:00 PM · #31
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by ursula:

PS - see? I had a "mind goes blank" moment here.

But this isn't public. This is DPC... ;)


Oh boy ... it's happening everywhere now!!!!
08/17/2007 11:52:07 PM · #32
Originally posted by ursula:



Wow, duh!!!! Thanks! :)

PS - see? I had a "mind goes blank" moment here.

No problem, if you press the top triangle on the back above menu, the camera will develop the image for you and show it to you, but be careful if you look to long the camera gets shy and it goes away. :-P
08/17/2007 11:54:46 PM · #33
Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by ursula:



Wow, duh!!!! Thanks! :)

PS - see? I had a "mind goes blank" moment here.

No problem, if you press the top triangle on the back above menu, the camera will develop the image for you and show it to you, but be careful if you look to long the camera gets shy and it goes away. :-P


Man, now you tell me! I was getting a new camera everytime a card was filled. What with dipping the camera into developer and rinsing it and all that, it just didn't work afterward. Thanks!!!! ;-)
08/18/2007 12:04:15 AM · #34
Fancy new camera!
I keep coming home to discover I've been shooting at ISO 800.
Thats not a setting I would choose most times.
Couldn't figure out how of why...
It seems that my hand insists it will give me image review. Don't know why. Also don't understand why I'm still doing it now that I figured out my error.
08/18/2007 12:17:35 AM · #35
Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by ursula:



Wow, duh!!!! Thanks! :)

PS - see? I had a "mind goes blank" moment here.

No problem, if you press the top triangle on the back above menu, the camera will develop the image for you and show it to you, but be careful if you look to long the camera gets shy and it goes away. :-P


Man, now you tell me! I was getting a new camera everytime a card was filled. What with dipping the camera into developer and rinsing it and all that, it just didn't work afterward. Thanks!!!! ;-)
you get alot of extra noise that way... but thats why were all here, to learn


i'll try to add to the thread. I have that problem sometimes too, especially somewhere new, I went to NYC and took a hundreds of photos in hours and I was trying to capture everything I could, although most were in focus many weren't that interesting. When I shoot around my home in SF, Berkeley, Oakland I know the lay of the land. Things that I find that help me make sure I'll get exposure is to go into manual mode and take some test shots to find a decent exposure for most shots. Then as I walk around i will adjust exposure either way Aperture or shutterspeed. I have learn to trust the meter. I will usually use spot metering and find what I want exposed properly. I find for candids I do things similar to Madman2K. I will pretend like I am playing with settings and changing settings. Also if i find an interesting person or spot I will start shooting early before they realize I am there I am already shooting, so they don't think I am shooting them. when I take my point and shoot it has a flip screen(Canon Powershot A95) and I'll have that open all the time at chest level and screen pointed up and will shoot freely, with no shuttersound I don't think anyone notices. And when in doubt get find a bar get a drink and go try again. :)
08/18/2007 12:22:37 AM · #36
Originally posted by jhonan:

Oh yeah, and don't mention the damn auto-ISO thing. I was trying to tweak the exposure using spot metering, only for auto-ISO to kick in and set the ISO to 1600 for a bunch of shots.



with our camera the iso is wierd. you have to set the ISO sensitivity on the SHOOTING menu

AND

at the custon setting menu under ISO Auto (number 10 on menu list) you must set that to OFF

you might have known this, but i just figured id mention it, because it took me 3 months to learn that

If you dont do the last step, the ISO will change if the camera thinks it should

hth

Message edited by author 2007-08-18 02:07:20.
08/18/2007 01:11:43 AM · #37
Since I almost never shoot anything "on the fly", no fast-moving subjects or rapidly-changing environments, I just run in full manual, including manual focus. Since I know that's where I'm at, I have to check everything, and I mostly don't make mistakes.

When I actually DO shoot on the fly, I use Tv mode and lock in a shutter speed that is appropriate.

I always, always check the ISO every time I turn the camera on. I always, always check MF/AF switch on lens when I turn the camera on and when I change lenses. I always, always switch a lens to AF when I bag it.

I never, never use "EV compensation", which is the easiest damn thing to forget when you're in a rush. If I want to mess with indicated exposures, I go full manual and I am forced to pay attention.

Like anything else, it's a matter of habit. A few good habits, faithfully adhered to, eliminate 90% of mental mistakes.

R.
08/18/2007 04:21:28 AM · #38
Originally posted by kolasi:

Originally posted by jhonan:

Oh yeah, and don't mention the damn auto-ISO thing. I was trying to tweak the exposure using spot metering, only for auto-ISO to kick in and set the ISO to 1600 for a bunch of shots.


with our camera the iso is wierd. you have to set the ISO sensitivity on the SHOOTING menu

I've assigned ISO to the function button at the side to make it easier to change. (Setting ISO is a more common requirement for me than setting WB). But, as you pointed out, Auto-ISO overrides this setting. And you have to go into the menus to turn Auto-ISO off or on, so it's not very intuitive. It'd be far nicer if you could select Auto-ISO as one of the ISO settings using the function button, since Auto-ISO is useful in certain situations, e.g. low light shooting / no flash.

Now, I *had* read this in the manual when I got the camera, and tested it again before I left on the trip. But... I just forgot all that stuff and left it switched on. There's no point going to all the trouble of setting the perfect exposure when the camera kicks in with what it thinks the ISO should be. ISO800 is recoverable. ISO1600 isn't.
08/18/2007 04:25:19 AM · #39
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Since I almost never shoot anything "on the fly", no fast-moving subjects or rapidly-changing environments, I just run in full manual, including manual focus.

Chicken.
08/18/2007 04:32:32 AM · #40
Originally posted by jdannels:

I will usually use spot metering and find what I want exposed properly.

Ah... right. You just reminded me of the other stupid thing I was doing. I had it set to spot metering. Which would have been fine, but I started exposure-locking on the sky whenever I saw any sky in the frame, which underexposed a lot of the shots. The reason I started doing this was because I had the LCD set to 'highlight' mode and it was flashing the clouds at me... :-/
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