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08/13/2007 12:57:28 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
If you already had two Nikon SB-28DX flashes would you still choose the Canon over the Nikon? |
The SB-28DX doesn't work in iTTL mode on a D80, so it wouldn't be a deciding factor. Like fotoman said, they're great flashes for off-camera use, regardless of the camera you have.
Back to the original point of this thread...personally, I'd use the Sony until I had a class assignment that the Sony couldn't handle. By then, you'll have time to check out the other students' cameras, and decide for yourself what you want. |
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08/13/2007 01:28:28 PM · #27 |
Just to throw another wrench into this...but why not look into either a 350D (dirt cheap now for new) or a 400D body? There's not much the Rebels can't do that the 20D/30D can unless you need the spot meter (30D only) or the 5fps. You'd save a good $300+ on getting one of those. You can spend that on a lens that's better than the kit lens for both Canon and Nikon.
Message edited by author 2007-08-13 13:29:50.
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08/14/2007 07:53:27 AM · #28 |
Having used the Canon 50mm f/1.8 II on two bodies, 50mm f/1.4 USM currently owned, and the Nikon version of the f/1.8 on a D80, I would say that the Nikon f/1.8 is easily better than the Canon f/1.8. If budget does not allow for a Canon f/1.4, I'd only recommend the f/1.8 to experienced users who can handle manual focus now and again.
this isn't a Canon/Nikon thing, just that Canon chose to go a bit too cheap with their lower end one IMHO. |
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08/14/2007 08:25:33 AM · #29 |
Canon seems to be ahead of Nikon when it comes to high end professional camera bodies. If you do plan on getting serious Canon might be the way to go if the part of the industry you go into requires the latest and best of the high end gear.
Either way you can't really go wrong but for most of what most people do Nikon can do the job and very well. Canon is ahead at the moment with full frame. |
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08/16/2007 12:58:03 PM · #30 |
| D80 body plus the Nikon 18-200 zoom bought separately is a great combination, as the latter is much better than the kit zoom lens (albeit more expensive), if you decide to go with the D80. |
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08/16/2007 01:04:24 PM · #31 |
| I bought the 30D a little less than a month ago. I really love it, the only problem i have is the lens. If you can get the 28-135 IS kit lens then i strongly recommend the 30D. |
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08/16/2007 01:10:07 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by SamDoe1:
Just to throw another wrench into this...but why not look into either a 350D (dirt cheap now for new) or a 400D body? There's not much the Rebels can't do that the 20D/30D can unless you need the spot meter (30D only) or the 5fps. You'd save a good $300+ on getting one of those. You can spend that on a lens that's better than the kit lens for both Canon and Nikon. |
Exactly. The Rebel XT has the same sensor as the 20D/30D and the photos are identical. The extra money could buy better glass or lighting.
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08/16/2007 01:28:23 PM · #33 |
Personally my money would go to a 400D, the 50mm 1.8 and a normal length zoom, maybe the 17-50 tamron?
There are hundreds of options available to you with that kind of money. Look at the used market for lenses to save you some $$$, ebay is a good place, as is this very site for used stuff at a damned good price.
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08/17/2007 08:36:46 AM · #34 |
How about a Nikon D200 and a Tamron 17-50 2.8? Isn't that about right with your budget?
I'm a starting student myself and love the D200 because it's a real tool. You can kill a man with it if you have to. Just hold it once, hear that great shutter click.. and you're sold. The body pretty much has everything you could wish for.
The Tamron is great even in low light. And the 17-50 is a perfect range for a student. You can shoot documentairy, landscapes, (full body) portraits... Should be all you need if you're gonna do a serious study.
You can always expand your collection with some fine primes later on. (Sigma 30/1.4, Nikon 35/2.0, Nikon 50mm, Nikon 85mm... it's all good, depending on what you like to shoot)
You might need more zoom than the 50mm if you're gonna shoot a lot of portraits, but anything above 85mm won't be needed for a photographic study.
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08/17/2007 03:45:09 PM · #35 |
| I have both, a Nikon D80 and a Canon 30d amongst others, both very nice cameras, specs and build quality are very good on both. I do prefer the Nikon though but thats my personal preference. |
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08/21/2007 05:50:53 PM · #36 |
Personally, I have been rather disappointed by the D80, the body quality is clearly a step down to the D70 (more alike the D50). It is smaller, feels cheaper and is less comfortable.
For the price, the Canon 30D is by far the winner in terms of built quality.
Regarding the picture quality, the two cameras are very similar. Maybe a small advantage for the D80 (better view finder, LCD and is ergonomically better).
The number of MP does not matter much. 8MP vs 10Mp...
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08/21/2007 06:20:29 PM · #37 |
| Canon 40D is available on Sept. 10 if you can wait |
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08/21/2007 06:22:45 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
Seriously, the D80 is far more geared towards begginers than the 30D. I've used Canon film camera's before, and I still find the 30D's controls to be daunting, wherease the D80 I could use the very first day, pretty much without the help of the manual. |
If you are going to photography school I really doubt you'll be using a lot of fancy camera specific capabilities. Unless things have changed a lot, you'll put the camera in manual mode and set the aperature and shutter speed on your own. The same goes for fancy flash systems.... my flashes are in manual mode and I trigger with a cord or pocketwizard.
Both Nikon and Canon have great glass.
I ended up with Canon because I thought their sensor technology was slightly ahead of Nikon at the time I was making the decision. I'm not sure if that's the same these days because I am too busy trying to figure out how to justify the new 1D mark III (and I'm really not a latest technology kind of person when it comes to photograhy).
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08/22/2007 03:30:01 PM · #39 |
Thanks again for all you replies and all your help.
I have handled both cameras and have decided on the 30D. I am still undecided for the lens though. The program director has suggested a zoom with the max coverage that I can afford, and sent me a link for the EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM. The reviews for that lens aren't that great and I am contemplating the idea of treating myself to one of the L-Series. I read a few good reviews about the EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM and it is in my allowable price range.
Again here, some advice and opinions are welcome!
Amélie |
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