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Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

08/09/2007 03:31:18 PM · #1

I'm going through a breakup and my ex is getting "custody" of our Digital Rebel and lenses. Sad, but it gives me the opportunity to start fresh. I was thinking of buying the Canon 30D - the 5D is extremely tempting, but realistically it would be overkill for what I would use it for. I know the 30D came out some time ago, how do I figure out whether they're likely to come out with a new version of it in the near future?

oOWonderBreadOo

Canon EOS-5D

08/09/2007 03:34:37 PM · #2

my motto- there's no time like the present! :0P

silverscreen

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/09/2007 03:36:08 PM · #3

There's no way to know of course - but my guess would be thta we will see a 10.1 mp 40d this fall - with the sensor and dust removal known from the d400 (Rebel XTi).

freakin_hilarious

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

08/09/2007 03:37:05 PM · #4

Originally posted by saiphfire:

How do I figure out whether they're likely to come out with a new version of it in the near future?

There is a discussion on that same topic over here.

It might be pretty darn soon!

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

08/09/2007 03:37:23 PM · #5

How much lead time do they usually give before a new one comes out, do you know? If we're talking 3 or 4 months I don't mind waiting to see if the new one is better or at least causes the 30D to drop in price, but if we're talking 6 months...

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

08/09/2007 03:37:23 PM · #6

rumours go, the 40D will be in the shops from 2nd September. But the 5D will never be overkill, spend those 500 extra bucks, it's the best dSLR on the market for that price, you'd be probably happier with the 12mpx, full-size sensor and the least noise of all portable cameras.

08/09/2007 03:42:07 PM · #7

Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 15:42:27.

silverscreen

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/09/2007 03:45:20 PM · #8

Originally posted by saiphfire:

Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

Well, it takes the same lenses as the 30d (except for the EF-s ones) - but due to the large sensor it really benefits from good (L) glass.

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

08/09/2007 03:45:32 PM · #9

Originally posted by saiphfire:

Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

Yes (well, the canon EF lenses work fine, but most of the third party lenses won't)

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 15:45:48.

silverscreen

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/09/2007 03:50:08 PM · #10

Originally posted by eyewave:

Originally posted by saiphfire:
Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

Yes (well, the canon EF lenses work fine, but most of the third party lenses won't)

Sorry, but that's not correct. I've not encountered any problems with thrid party lenses on my 5d. I've tried several and own the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX APO Macro EX DG HSM myself - and it works perfectly. Only thing you have to make sure: It needs an EF mount and can't use the EF-s ones.

08/09/2007 03:51:28 PM · #11

Originally posted by freakin_hilarious:

There is a discussion on that same topic over here.

Thanks for the link, freakin. eyewave (and others) when I just looked it up it seemed like the 5D was more like $1000 more. Am I wrong?

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 15:52:38.

smurfguy

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/10/2007 01:38:13 AM · #12

Originally posted by smurfguy:

For future reference, here are some prices as of today (B&H):

Canon 30D body only - $999.95
Canon 30D with 28-135mm IS - $1277.95
Canon 30D with 17-85 IS - $1509.95

Canon 5D body only - $2569.95
Canon 5D with 24-105mm f/4L IS - $3329.95

-Jeff

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

08/10/2007 01:43:03 AM · #13

Originally posted by saiphfire:

Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

It takes "more expensive" lenses in the sense that to get the same angular coverage you need a longer lens, since it's a full frame sensor â�� and the cost of good glass goes up exponentially as it gets longer. So if you want good telephoto reach, it costs significantly more with the 5D than with the 30D.

R.

MadMan2k

Sony Alpha a6400

Tamron 70-180mm F/2.8 Di III VXD

08/10/2007 01:46:56 AM · #14

I wouldn't buy a 30D just now - as long as you have a body that still runs and don't need a new camera for a particular event right now. The 40D will probably be out in a month or so, and if you still want a 30D the price will go down a little.

If you're an early adopter and shoot RAW, not very many programs will support it straight away. A friend of mine got a 30D as soon as it was out and waited a couple weeks to see any of his photos because he didn't want to use the canon software rather than ACR.

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

08/10/2007 01:53:47 AM · #15

When I get some money :(
LOL

Zippy

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/10/2007 02:01:56 AM · #16

I'm glad I saw this thread. I old Rebel is having issues. I just had a $180 repair done and used it for about a month. Starting Saturday it wouldn't turn on. I don't think I want to spend more on repairs if it just wearing out.

I was considering the 30D as a replacement, but I will definitely wait to check out the new version.

Thanks for the info.

NstiG8tr

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

08/10/2007 02:05:15 AM · #17

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Yup. The next lens I will buy for my 5D costs $5500. 500mm F/4 L IS. You can get about the same coverage on a 1.6 crop camera with a 300mm lens.

Edit: I'd be money ahead to buy a nice new 1.6 crop camera to get the extra coverage. My 300mm F4 would become 480mm I might just consider this if the new release is 10 mp.

Message edited by author 2007-08-10 02:18:40.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/10/2007 11:35:50 AM · #18

Originally posted by MadMan2k:

I don't have a body or lenses at all at the moment, although I still have a P&S. I think I am going to wait until the 40D comes out and get either that or the (hopefully) cheaper 30D. Just can't justify the 5D as much as I'd love to get it.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

08/10/2007 12:04:02 PM · #19

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by saiphfire:
Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

It takes "more expensive" lenses in the sense that to get the same angular coverage you need a longer lens, since it's a full frame sensor â�� and the cost of good glass goes up exponentially as it gets longer. So if you want good telephoto reach, it costs significantly more with the 5D than with the 30D.

R.

More importantly the 5D doesn't hide the crappy edges of a lense the way a crop cam does. So yeah, you need more expensive glass to get good images corner to corner.

Prof_Fate

08/10/2007 12:32:51 PM · #20

And it's a 90% certainty the 5D will get teh dust shaker system as well, and be out this fall. It's even 'older' than than the 30D.

Nullix

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/10/2007 03:10:36 PM · #21

Cheap out on the body.

Blow your wad on glass ($2569.95 will buy you some nice glass).

pix-al

Canon EOS-5D

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

08/10/2007 03:20:14 PM · #22

The 30D will blow your old Rebel out of the water - You will be very pleased with it if you get it.

I loved my XT - Until I got my 30D... :-)

XT is relegated to a backup. I havent used it since I got the 30D.

The 5D, while I'm sure is absolutely awesome, is full frame, so all of what has already been said about $$$ for lenses is a BIG factor you need to consider. The flip side is that a 24/28mm lens becomes wide angle compared to the crop sensor bodies!

hankk

Canon EOS-5D

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

08/10/2007 06:23:13 PM · #23

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by saiphfire:
Does the 5D take different (more expensive) lenses than the 30D?

edit to clarify question

It takes "more expensive" lenses in the sense that to get the same angular coverage you need a longer lens, since it's a full frame sensor â�� and the cost of good glass goes up exponentially as it gets longer. So if you want good telephoto reach, it costs significantly more with the 5D than with the 30D.

R.

More importantly the 5D doesn't hide the crappy edges of a lense the way a crop cam does. So yeah, you need more expensive glass to get good images corner to corner.

But the 5D is not as demanding in the center--bigger pixels, no crop mean that it can stand a larger COC.

If you're worried about buying an obsolete camera, get the 400D ($650 at B&H) and some good glass. Or get the 350D ($490 at B&H) and consider the money "rental" on a body until Canon anounces the one you want :-)