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Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

08/01/2007 12:16:50 AM · #1

ok what was wrong with this? I thought it was very good but a 5.3??????? Am I missing something?

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RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

08/01/2007 12:18:25 AM · #2

Whats wrong with its score what did u want a 6 an 8 a 10? Why cant you ever just get what you get and its that lol. Its different to everyone. If i look at it i dont see extreme emotion. In fact nothing about this image says shes jaming her anger out into an amp. Nothing says she hates the world. In fact the background while the lighting is good is just wrong for it.

Besides if she was jaming out her hate the world feelings.. it would be pretty damn quiet with no amp! As far as it goes off subject as i said the lightings nice for indoors... but other then that.....

I say this with love to my team mate.

Message edited by author 2007-08-01 00:20:25.

smardaz

08/01/2007 12:19:57 AM · #3

Originally posted by Chinabun:

ok what was wrong with this? I thought it was very good but a 5.3??????? Am I missing something?

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Elvis_L

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/01/2007 12:22:04 AM · #4

I think the comments really nail it. The shot looks posed and not very punk. she doesn't have a pick and the background is not so great. All in all i think the shot is good but that was enough stuff for people to give 4s I guess.

smurfguy

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/01/2007 12:22:41 AM · #5

Crooked horizon, blah setting, obviously not actually playing, too close to the bkg (shadows), odd wall texture makes the guitarist look oddly giant...

=) But you're right - it's not a bad shot. The lighting is nice, and the model looks convincing. It's just those little details I mentioned above that would boost this above 6. Each one will bug somebody, and the score will drop as a result.

Ubersteiny

Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM for Canon

08/01/2007 12:24:21 AM · #6

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Punk rockers are so hardcore they dont use picks.... hah
and if it was in a different place i think it would have fared better

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

08/01/2007 12:26:17 AM · #7

yeah, it was the background.

chip_k

Canon EOS-20D

08/01/2007 12:26:46 AM · #8

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. I didn't vote in that Challenge. Here's my ultra hard-core take on it.

It might have been taken with a studio flash, but it looks like a basic camera flash. The shadow on the wall in the right of the picture is pretty distracting. I don't see any emotion at all. She's scrunched into the right side of the picture. The angle isn't really interesting. I'd like to at least see her hand and the guitar neck. The parquet floor makes it look like she's playing in the kitchen, which is a hard place to rock out.

The hair, guitar and outfit look pretty interesting, but the voters probably saw the above issues.

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

08/01/2007 12:27:16 AM · #9

it's not even my photo dumbass. I just want to know why because technically i think it's great and I dont see how it scored a 5.3, 5.6 yeh ok...that would certainly beat out some of the other crap above it.

EDIT: I can call Jeff a dumbass because he stalks me so instead of me calling the cops, I call him names.

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Message edited by author 2007-08-01 00:29:57.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

08/01/2007 12:29:47 AM · #10

I thought it was a decent pic, but I got zero emotion from it. What emotion would a hard rocker be feeling? I think they'd be having fun, but that's neither extreme nor exactly an emotion.

awpollard

08/01/2007 12:34:32 AM · #11

(IMO) The outfit, hair and guitar are all kewl however, the shot feels way to cramped. Also we need to see the guitarist face... music is about expression and there is nothing like a musicians face to tell the story. As pointed, out the background could have been a lot better. Sharpness and Lighting does not always make a great photo.

Elvis_L

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/01/2007 12:37:30 AM · #12

Originally posted by levyj413:

I thought it was a decent pic, but I got zero emotion from it. What emotion would a hard rocker be feeling? I think they'd be having fun, but that's neither extreme nor exactly an emotion.

You are not a rocker then:) I would say that Hendrix and Joplin felt emotion. I wouldn't say that Henry Rollins was having fun I would say he was pissed. C.C.Deville may be having fun but hat guy couldn't rock his way out of paper bag.

08/01/2007 12:38:02 AM · #13

ummm, this was a faceless emotion challenge. so how can they show the face? then everyone would say it DNMC.

Originally posted by awpollard:

smurfguy

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/01/2007 12:43:43 AM · #14

Originally posted by Chinabun:

that would certainly beat out some of the other crap above it.

I agree with you here. When I score a mid-5, I always see stuff above it that irks me.

But, I think voting is less selective in the mid-5 range. Shots are flawed in different ways for which there is no numeric value, so it's hard to compare shots. Plus there are just so many that end up in that range.

So, in the end, it's best to simply try to beat your own average and thus improve.

kolasi

Nikon D300

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

08/01/2007 12:45:09 AM · #15

Compare it to this, which barely broke 6.0

Message edited by author 2007-08-01 00:45:31.

fotomann_forever

08/01/2007 12:45:18 AM · #16

Originally posted by wavelength:

yeah, it was the background.

The background kinda kills it for me too. Would be a great place for an isolated gray or black B/g.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/01/2007 12:47:03 AM · #17

I agree, but it's hard to do when i'm thinking this photo was good ya know. I usually know why my own photos tank, but only after I get some comments.

Originally posted by smurfguy:

Originally posted by Chinabun:
that would certainly beat out some of the other crap above it.

I agree with you here. When I score a mid-5, I always see stuff above it that irks me.

But, I think voting is less selective in the mid-5 range. Shots are flawed in different ways for which there is no numeric value, so it's hard to compare shots. Plus there are just so many that end up in that range.

So, in the end, it's best to simply try to beat your own average and thus improve.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

08/01/2007 12:48:24 AM · #18

It's an average shot. No wow, no big mistakes. So it got an average score.

You can grind your teeth to dust looking through shots that score higher than yours (or your favorite). It's not worth making the comparison.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

08/01/2007 12:48:59 AM · #19

this shot got an 8 from me. I do feel more emotion for this one since he is on stage and he has the whole rocker image goin.

Originally posted by kolasi:

Compare it to this, which barely broke 6.0

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

08/01/2007 12:51:20 AM · #20

Originally posted by Chinabun:

this shot got an 8 from me. I do feel more emotion for this one since he is on stage and he has the whole rocker image goin.

Originally posted by kolasi:

Compare it to this, which barely broke 6.0

I think this is much better, the environment is a bit off at first but you can tell its an open stage. The hair motion, the realism of playing. The whole image goes.

But we went from punk teen who hates her life to hard rocker, drugs alcohol and sex.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

08/01/2007 12:53:14 AM · #21

Jdannels had a better photo overall. But again, what's the emotion felt by someone playing music?

08/01/2007 12:53:33 AM · #22

not grinding my teeth, just asking a question. and what part of it's not my photo do you people dont get. I'm only asking because I THOUGHT it was good and a 5.3 is very low. Didn't say it deserved a ribbon just wondering why the majority didn't like it. I dont even know why I started this thread. I mean, I know people don't read the challenge descriptions, so why would I think people would actually read what I have written so far.

Originally posted by routerguy666:

chip_k

Canon EOS-20D

08/01/2007 12:53:37 AM · #23

Originally posted by noisemaker:

Punk rockers are so hardcore they dont use picks.... hah

Yes they do:

Message edited by author 2007-08-01 00:57:40.

Elvis_L

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/01/2007 12:57:10 AM · #24

Originally posted by levyj413:

Jdannels had a better photo overall. But again, what's the emotion felt by someone playing music?

As I said. there can be plenty of emotion playing music. Do you think Tori Amos sings Me and a gun with no emotion? how about John Lennon's Imagine. Is there no songs that stir any emotion in you? If not then you are listening to the wrong music. If so then those are the emotions that people have playing it. BTW having fun comes from being happy and happy is an emotion.

awpollard