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Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/23/2007 08:46:27 PM · #1

This shot into the sun resulted in a reflective spot. Any ideas on how to eliminate it or reduce it in editing? I want to keep the sunset dark and lighten the forground a touch but that just makes it worse.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

renefunk

Canon EOS-5D

07/23/2007 08:49:16 PM · #2

i think is pretty good that way

07/23/2007 08:52:29 PM · #3

Thanks. I prints pretty well even when I lighten the forground and I like it. But in a large print the spot is very noticable.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/23/2007 11:00:55 PM · #4

Where"s Bear when you need him? Anyone?

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

07/23/2007 11:17:51 PM · #5

If you are talking about the sun's reflection in the water, I would create a new layer, and then clone it out by carefully sampling from the sides and working inwards. I'd also reduce it, but not eliminate it entirely -- I think that would probably make it look unnatural.

As a last step I'd consider burning it or adding just a little color so it's not quite as bright, but still an obvious reflection.

PS: do all of this first, without any color/tone adjustments in play -- make sure they are above both the Background and the Retouching layer.

Message edited by author 2007-07-23 23:19:56.

Rooster

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Sigma 28-105mm f/2.8-4.0 Aspherical for Canon

07/23/2007 11:19:44 PM · #6

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I agree with this. I would try pre other edits & post other edits to which method yields the nest results.

Good Luck!

BeeCee

Nikon D40

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

07/23/2007 11:22:24 PM · #7

I think he means the ...lens flare?.... rainbowy thing in front of the boat.

Message edited by author 2007-07-23 23:23:03.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/23/2007 11:24:49 PM · #8

Sorry I was busy commenting on one of the challenges.

Yes, I'm talking about the lens flare that is on the old beached boat. The General's method could work here also but a bit more difficult on the boat. That is why I've been looking for other alternatives.

P.S. - I'm also looking for another night in the near future when we have a decent sunset and still water. Tough here because it depends on sun location and tides. May have to mark the calendar for next year.

Message edited by author 2007-07-23 23:30:47.

jackal9

Canon EOS-50D

07/23/2007 11:26:19 PM · #9

Originally posted by BeeCee:

I think he means the ...lens flare?.... rainbowy thing in front of the boat.

Yeah, I think your right, man tough one, maybe tedious clone work? Not sure how to eliminate it...Sorry!

BeeCee

Nikon D40

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

07/23/2007 11:29:09 PM · #10

Originally posted by jackal9:

Originally posted by BeeCee:
I think he means the ...lens flare?.... rainbowy thing in front of the boat.

Yeah, I think your right, man tough one, maybe tedious clone work? Not sure how to eliminate it...Sorry!

That's all I know how to do, too :( I sometimes work as small as 1 or 2 pixels when doing repair work.

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

07/23/2007 11:29:33 PM · #11

Originally posted by jbsmithana:

Where"s Bear when you need him? Anyone?

He was on last evening. You might want to PM him... I just know he would love to help you.

Ray

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/23/2007 11:32:50 PM · #12

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Where"s Bear when you need him? Anyone?

He was on last evening. You might want to PM him... I just know he would love to help you.

Ray

Yeah, I know he will. He is always very generus with his time on these issues. I might give him a PM tomorrow if he does not see this. Thanks Ray.

Niten

Canon EOS-20D

07/23/2007 11:47:27 PM · #13

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/23/2007 11:56:37 PM · #14

Originally posted by Niten:

Thanks for having a go at it. What method did you use?

Niten

Canon EOS-20D

07/24/2007 12:24:35 AM · #15

I opened it in PS raw converter, upped the exposure some and maxed the recovery. Then I just used the spot healing brush to take out some of the flare. Cool boat when you can see it.

Atropos

Nikon D40

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

07/24/2007 11:10:57 AM · #16

I would try making a selection as tightly around the flare as possible, then adjust the colors and hues and saturation and whatever else you can think of to minimize it's visibility, then clone around the edge of the selection to erase the evidence. I think it's dark enough that this method would not be noticable.

I'm no PS pro though, I tend to do things in my own wierd ways. I generally don't follow alot of universally accepted methods.

Edited to say: Just try to match the color as closely as possible with the rest of the boat. Maybe desaturate it and then add a hue to match the color with the surroundings. I'd give it a go but I'm not at home, sorry. =]

Message edited by author 2007-07-24 11:13:53.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

07/24/2007 12:48:38 PM · #17

Something like this?

Tone mapped in Photomatix Pro, a lot of very careful healing brush work, slight vignetting applied, selective color on the hot spot in the sky.

R.

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

07/25/2007 02:36:24 PM · #18

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Something like this?

Tone mapped in Photomatix Pro, a lot of very careful healing brush work, slight vignetting applied, selective color on the hot spot in the sky.

R.

Thanks Bear. Getting close. I don't have Photomatix but I think I'll try highlights and shadows using layers. I want to keep the sky the darker full color of the original and maybe lighten the forground about halfway to what you and Tim have done here. Thanks for the ideas and help.

In the end I still think I need to reshoot another time (likley next year now) and do two exposures, one for the sky and one for the foreground. Likley to have a better result. I just happen to be driving by this one night and took a quick shot with my 50mm lens (all I had with me). But I like the exercise in trying to get rid of falre.

Thanks again to all.

Message edited by author 2007-07-25 14:38:02.

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

07/25/2007 03:12:34 PM · #19

Closer?

pawdrix

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

07/25/2007 03:28:41 PM · #20

Originally posted by Brad:

Closer?

Really nice. A tough image to bring back. Given the lack of information in the shadowed areas you did a great job of bringing things out and still keeping it real.

Message edited by author 2007-07-25 15:30:47.

Pedro

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

07/25/2007 03:32:45 PM · #21

too much? I'm just testing out my new graphics tab on a laptop so I don't have my normal stuff to edit with...I feel like a noob all over again.

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

07/26/2007 11:01:54 AM · #22

Thanks for the go at it Brad and Pedro! I think Brad is getting closer to what I was looking for. Bear has graciously offered to work the original file for me so we'll see what can be recovered from the shadows in that.

Again, thanks for the go.

P.S. - Brad, want to share your steps?

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

07/26/2007 11:45:21 AM · #23

The way I removed the red & sun flare off the boat was as simple as using the sponge tool and desaturate the affected areas, then used the history brush in multiply mode at 20% to go slowly over the areas - works better than burning, then followed up with a bit of cloning and sharpening in the boat areas. As far as the shadow detail, new layer via copy thing, shadow/highlight tool, brought shadow detail out a bit, erased back areas I didn't want changed, and flattened. Did that a couple times in varying strengths to get the effect I wanted. A bit of local contrast and lightness adjustment in the grass areas, a levels adjustment for the water, some darken mode cloning to clean up the halos in the details from your resize/sharpening.