How do you avoid squinty eyes? - DPChallenge Forums

07/19/2007 02:18:31 AM · #1

I'm going through trying to edit a shoot I did and I'm really mad because my model is squinting in ALL of them and you can hardly see her eyes at all, and they are so big a beautiful.

I tried doing the whole "close them, ok 1,2,3 open" but that just made things worse because it hurt her eyes and they started watering.

Even a shot I had her in the shade in she was still squinting because I was out in the sun and it was a hazy day (all the ambient light!).

Any possible suggestions? I know there is the whole diffuser thing but I don't have one right now, and suppose I want harsh sunlight?

Thanks!

Shadowi6

Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX-DC HSM

07/19/2007 02:33:16 AM · #2

try this :)

it totaly looks natural lol (basic editing too:)

Message edited by author 2007-07-19 02:34:00.

07/19/2007 02:37:07 AM · #3

Originally posted by Shadowi6:

try this :)

it totaly looks natural lol (basic editing too:)

AHHHHH!!!!! No. Is the same as the crazy doll lady we've talked about or is this someone else? Or a photographer that uses her "services"?

EEE. Nightmares.

Shadowi6

Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX-DC HSM

07/19/2007 02:41:01 AM · #4

the one and same, seriously thou I would think that less constant lighting from the front would do you well, perhaps a strobe or flash so its too quick for her to squint.

crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

07/19/2007 03:06:06 AM · #5

or you can shoot the face/head on another session, and do a composite...
like the example here :p

07/19/2007 03:10:04 AM · #6

Originally posted by Shadowi6:

the one and same, seriously thou I would think that less constant lighting from the front would do you well, perhaps a strobe or flash so its too quick for her to squint.

well i don't have flashes so I'm working with natural light.

07/19/2007 03:10:38 AM · #7

Originally posted by crayon:

or you can shoot the face/head on another session, and do a composite...
like the example here :p

Brilliant! You are so right! lol. yikes.

sabphoto

Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+

07/19/2007 03:20:56 AM · #8

is it the actual light that is bothering her or does she maybe have vision problems and instead of relaxing she is trying to actualy focus on you and the distance it causing her to squint? Do you have an example or is it for a challenge?

I'm really not sure what can be done if the light is actually bothering her except maybe she can get those sunglass contact lenses...yeah those look natural lol...to help her eyes. If you wanna get real serious find someone in an eye doctors office that will swipe you the constricting eye drops that make your pupils close down, that should help lol.

Hope you get it figured out, I'd be interested to know other (useful) tips.

07/19/2007 03:44:19 AM · #9

edit to add, this is her back when I had flashes. SO you can see how wide her eyes usually are.

This one is where she was in the shade but it was a hazy day. Others are worse where you can't even see her pupils.

I guess I just picked the wrong day or needed to find an area with shade for her AND where she was looking.

Message edited by author 2007-07-19 03:45:37.

crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

07/19/2007 03:56:11 AM · #10

maybe she wants to have her photos taken with squinty eyes? some ladies i know thinks that they looked more attractive this way (shrugs)

how long does she have to hold a certain pose before you hit the shutter?
it may help if you tell her when you are about to click, so she could force he eyes open larger, if only just for a second for the shot.

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-120 f/4 S

07/19/2007 04:46:58 AM · #11

Originally posted by crayon:

yea like i said before, I tried to do a count off and have her open her eyes right as I clicked but it was just too much still and she would end up looking all suprised or in pain. lol.

bassbone

Nikon Z8

07/19/2007 06:00:35 AM · #12

One approach to avoid this problem that I have heard (and tried with my squinty eyed wife) is to have the model looking away until just before the shot. Then have the model turn her head into place and snap away before they tense up. Give it a shot, you never know if it will work for her.

Message edited by author 2007-07-19 06:40:17.

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

07/19/2007 06:06:54 AM · #13

Hire an assistant to goose the person a split-second before the shutter snap. That should open the eyes up.

Message edited by author 2007-07-19 06:09:12.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/19/2007 06:12:04 AM · #14

Originally posted by Brad:

Hire an assistant to goose the person a split-second before the shutter snap. That should open the eyes up.

yea, I'm sure my boyfriend would have oblidges. lol.

ragamuffingirl

Sony Alpha NEX-5N

07/19/2007 06:44:10 AM · #15

Some people's eyes .... especially blue eyed people for some reason ... are extremely sensitive to bright lights. I was taking pictures of a little girl recently, and we had to take her into fairly deep shade to get here to stop squinting. Then, we had serious light problems.

Toni Overby is one of several crazy doll ladies, but as much as we all make fun of her she gets $350 in sitting fees and $200 per 8x10. I've seen some of her photos untouched, and she's actually a good photographer.

I believe the first blonde on that webpage is this same girl.

sabphoto

Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+

07/19/2007 06:58:59 AM · #16

Originally posted by ragamuffingirl:

Some people's eyes .... especially blue eyed people for some reason ... are extremely sensitive to bright lights...

great point, I have blue eyes and have always had a bit higher sensitivity than others, especially when my allergies are kicking in. There was one time that I forgot my sunglasses and my eyes were so sensitive that they just watered and I couldn't keep them open. Good thing a friend was driving that day.

I wonder if she does have a problem with her sensitivity, did you notice how large her pupils are in the shade photo, looks like she should be in complete darkness, and even with the squint you can see how small they are in the sun, they seem a lot smaller than normal, even with squinting.

justamistere

Nikon D3s

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

07/19/2007 10:26:19 AM · #17

I've found that natural looks, are sometimes beter then posed.
just have her do things naturally and shoot a lot when she's not expecting it, catching them off guard. Or have her looking in a mirror and shoot the mirror image, eing carefull of flashing the mirror.

Maybe try a reflector (constant light) instead of flash.

Flash and mostly the sun makes me squint. Looking into the sun even makes me sneeze, which is a comon thing.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

07/19/2007 11:05:11 AM · #18

One word: Sunglasses

Pedro

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

07/19/2007 11:16:00 AM · #19

I was having difficulty with a particularly blinky bride this past weekend...as soon as I'd aim the camera at her she'd start rapidfire blinking - very frustrating.

this was my solution:

after that - no problems whatsoever.

P-ness

doctornick

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/19/2007 11:21:57 AM · #20

Originally posted by Pedro:

I was having difficulty with a particularly blinky bride this past weekend...as soon as I'd aim the camera at her she'd start rapidfire blinking - very frustrating.

this was my solution:

after that - no problems whatsoever.

P-ness

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

07/19/2007 11:36:35 AM · #21

Originally posted by Pedro:

And to think, I've been supergluing problem subjects' eyes open all this time. Thanks, Pedro.

Pedro

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

07/19/2007 11:52:28 AM · #22

this was my other option - seemed a bit extreme since it was their wedding day and all.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

07/19/2007 12:34:52 PM · #23

Originally posted by Pedro:

this was my other option - seemed a bit extreme since it was their wedding day and all.

I've tried that too, but print sales went way down.

Alicia

Canon EOS-600D/T3i Rebel

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM II

07/19/2007 12:36:53 PM · #24

haaaahahaha!

Pedro